Why did you Leave Islam?

sword_of_truth · Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 255

I didn't fully read the Quran when I left. I didn't quite think it was necessary.

Here were my reasons. The first is a reason why Islam cannot be true, and the rest are reasons why no reasonable person could possibly WANT it to be true.

1) Islam never offered any proof, yet made huge claims. One such claim is that Muhammed physically went to Jerusalem in one night and ascended to heaven. This did not happen. This is as clear as me picking up an object and then predicting that it's going to fall when I let go of it. Of course, it will fall every damn time. We all know that with no doubt. So, Islam asked me to believe something that violated my intuition about reality just as strongly, while offering extremely weak evidence. To believe something so absurd as this not only requires proof, but HIGHER standards of proof than that required for scientific journals which never make any claims even close to being that far-fetched. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

2) Allah is going to torture everyone in hell for no reason. Refusal to believe is not a crime, in fact, it is the opposite. It is a good quality to be skeptical, and even many muslims will admit that if it is not in the context of Islam. Furthermore, Allah is being extremely vengeful. The purpose of punishment is prevention, not revenge. Apparently, Allah does not understand that. What purpose could this torture in hell possible serve, except to provide him with some sadistic pleasure?

3) Muhammed ordered adulterers to be stoned to death. Even capital punishment would be harsh, but WHY oh WHY does it have to be carried out in such a monstrous way?

4) The Quran prescribes hand-cutting for thieves. The punishment does not fit the crime, so it is incredibly unjust.

5) The following Hadith:

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260:

Narrated Ikrima:

Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

This last one puts Muhammed on par with Hitler.

So, not only is there insufficient evidence, but in the absense of such evidence, Islam is in no way worth believing. Even if it was a true religion, it wouldn't matter because I couldn't be sincere in worshipping such a cruel god, anyway. Even if I could, there is absolutely no guarantee that Allah is not lying. He has shown himself to be infinitely cruel the way he talks about hell, so there is no reason to believe that he isn't lying and will just throw all the muslims in hell with the rest of us to add to his pleasure in seeing people suffer. Maybe Allah is really going to punish the muslims for buying into such a horrible religion based on very meager evidence and forgive everyone else. Probably, Allah says he doesn't lie, but if he's a liar, he can easily say that and still be lying.

PAKI88 · Joined: 05 Nov 2008 Posts: 10

So those of you who left, did you go to athiesm, become agnostic or did you convert to another religion? And for those of you who became christian and say in the Qur'an it says to kill, the same things are said in the Bible and possibly even worse. Also how can you convert from Islam to christianity I mean really, calling yourself a christian doesn't take much these days I mean they all, get drunk, have pre-maritial sex, wear very revealing clothing, go to church once a year maybe, condone/practice homosexuality and still call themselves christian, how does that work?

and what I want to know are why there are so many different versions of the Bible, I mean outside of school I got a a bible from a missionary that was different from the one my mom got from door to door christian preachers.

So if your Christian or Jewish and you tell me Islam is a messed up religion, I suggest you take a look at what your people are doing and maybe read the Bible, and tell me who's living a more modest life.

Seriously how can you can you claim to follow God, yet reject 90% of what he is telling you in the Bible, all you say is jesus is the way and yet still commit the sins he has told you not to commit.

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Off topic here... Haik.. Who is that in your awatar???
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sword_of_truth · Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 255

Atheism, all the way!

But when I left Islam, I was initially agnostic, leaning towards deism. Then, after a while, I became a deist for several years, then agnostic for several more years. Now, atheist. There's not much of a distinction between my agnosticism and atheism. The only difference is that I don't feel the need to emphasize that I don't know if there's a God or not because if I did, I would need to be fair to the flying spaghetti monster and proclaim my uncertainty of his non-existence as well.

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PAKI88 · Joined: 05 Nov 2008 Posts: 10

Funny thing is I'm not overgeneralizing, if You've ever been to America or any Western country for that matter you will find that probably 98% of those Christians commit such sins. If you say they aren't true christians than that means that 90% of christians aren't true christians..