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PAKI88
Joined: 05 Nov 2008
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 Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:42 am Post subject: Why did you Leave Islam? |
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ONly ex-muslims answer... Why did you leave Islam, I don't want general stuff I want personal reasons and also did you fully read and understand the Qur'an before you left, knowing that the Hadith is NOT the word of God, and could be wrong....?
I'm 15 and a muslim I wanna see why you guys left.. |
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Ali Sina
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: Re: Why did you Leave Islam? |
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| PAKI88 wrote: |
ONly ex-muslims answer... Why did you leave Islam, I don't want general stuff I want personal reasons and also did you fully read and understand the Qur'an before you left, knowing that the Hadith is NOT the word of God, and could be wrong....?
I'm 15 and a muslim I wanna see why you guys left.. |
Hello Paki88
The reason most people leave Islam is because they read the Quran. Now if you want to keep Muslims in Islam, you must take their Quran away from them so they don't see what is in that book.
Here are some of the testimovies of people who left Islam. http://www.faithfreedom.org/testimonials.htm
There is a section in this forum that also has testimonies of people who left Islam.
Several Muslims have read my book and left Islam as the result. If you want to read it, I will send it to you. I bet you too will leave Islam after reading it. That book will make Islam extinct in due time.
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PAKI88
Joined: 05 Nov 2008
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Hmm... Most of the testimonials I'v read don't have to do with people leaving Islam for religious reasons, but for cultural reasons, i.e. honor killings, oppression of women, forced marriages, etc..
Some of these may be justified by Hadith's but Hadith's are not the word of God so they can be corrupted.. The Suadi's are not teaching true Islam they are teaching a more strict interpretation of Islam = Wahabism, which I'v heard from people twists certain things in the Qur'an.... |
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ixolite
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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Location: land of pork and beer
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So 88 is not your birthyear. There must be a different reason why you use this number. Can't possibly be the Hitler salute (88 = HH = Heil Hitler) so popular amongst the Neo-Nazis, eh? 
I smell a troll.
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Ali Sina
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| Hmm... Most of the testimonials I'v read don't have to do with people leaving Islam for religious reasons, but for cultural reasons, i.e. honor killings, oppression of women, forced marriages, etc.. |
And care to explain why it is only Islamic countris that practice these things?
They are not cultural my dear. These evil practices are very Islamic. Do non-Muslims in Paakistan or in Arabic countries have these evil practices?
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Some of these may be justified by Hadith's but Hadith's are not the word of God so they can be corrupted.. |
The Quran is just as evil as the hadith. Also stop denying it. Hadith is as much part of Islam as is Quran. Withut it you won't be able even to say your obligatory prayer.
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| The Suadi's are not teaching true Islam they are teaching a more strict interpretation of Islam = Wahabism, which I'v heard from people twists certain things in the Qur'an.... |
So which country practices the real Islam?
You are mistaken about Wahhabis. They are the only Muslims that do not twist anything. They read the Quran and take it for its face value without interpreting it differently or giving esoteric meanings to it. The word of God is the word of God and should not be interpreted by man, is their phylosophy. They are the only real and true Muslims.
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yeezevee
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| PAKI88: I'm 15 and a muslim I wanna see why you guys left.. |
greetings young man., You are 15 but what is this PAKI88 ??? do you even know that "PAKI88" thing is a bit of derogatory word ? can you use "pakistani 88" instead of other one ?? So you are in high school and reading ffi?? that is good but read more on Islam, on Q'uran, Hadith and Islamic history. Most importantly don't neglect your School home work..
with best wishes
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Haik Monsieur
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Why did you Leave Islam? |
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| PAKI88 wrote: |
ONly ex-muslims answer... Why did you leave Islam, I don't want general stuff I want personal reasons and also did you fully read and understand the Qur'an before you left, knowing that the Hadith is NOT the word of God, and could be wrong....?
I'm 15 and a muslim I wanna see why you guys left.. |
PAKI88,
You don't need to disclose your age and date of birth in FFI. We don't care whether you are a kid or a senior citizen.
BTW, I am an Ex-Muslim so if you need to know why I left Islam, I can simply say: It is not a religion at all to glue on and die for. A cult which teaches me the nauseating "We vs They" doesn't deserve my attention. I simply left it and no traces of it is left in me now. Thanks to devil Lucifer. 
However, it is not going to be easy to discard something like Islam you are born and brought up. It requires immense courage and will-power. Besides, it is not going to happen overnight too. Apostasy is a gradual process. First, you will have doubts, then doubts grow into more and more and more until you recognize "hey I believed in pure crap so far"
Anything more?
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charleslemartel
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Why did you Leave Islam? |
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| Haik Monsieur wrote: |
| It requires immense courage and will-power. |
I would like to add "intelligence" too in that list.
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FinallyFree
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| ixolite wrote: |
So 88 is not your birthyear. There must be a different reason why you use this number. Can't possibly be the Hitler salute (88 = HH = Heil Hitler) so popular amongst the Neo-Nazis, eh?
I smell a troll. |
Yeah I was pondering this too until he said he was 15. If your a muslim and you support Adolf Hitler, its probably due to the anti semitic angle. What a shame that Islam and Nazism go hand in hand.
Regardless, I personally welcome you to the forum. Already I can see the strong teenage substance you have that comes in youth and dies with age. I wish you good luck in breaking your chains and removing the chip from your brain.
I left Islam not for cultural reasons, my testimony is somewhere here and in it I say that for most of my recent years I was raised in a liberal, muslim environment and in the west, so for me it has absolutely nothing to do with culture.
My reason for leaving Islam rather is due to the ideology. I have always found it hateful, troubling, genocidal and disgusting, and this was while I was a practising muslim! I surpressed these feelings and prayed to Allah for guidance instead (sic) and after gaining much Islamic knowledge, I found that Islam at its core has these values, you can even find it in the Quran, no need for Hadith or Sira. Although I knew what Islam was, I couldn't leave it. Circular reasoning is a bi*ch and as a Muslim you are bound to Islam due to the promise of hell. After proving it wrong to myself, through the fallacies of the quran, the irrationalities and the see-through pseudo-science that can be proven wrong by reading a school textbook, I decided that Islam was false and all I had to do was admit this to myself.
It is a long and painful process, but all you'll ever need is in the Quran, and of course there is lots of peripheral material on this glorius website. Read the articles, the testimonials, the forum, you will find a mine of knowledge and that you are not and never will be alone.
I also came on here for the first time when I was 15, much like you, a Muslim and curious about Ex Muslims, but still adament that I was a muslim. Years later, at the age of 19 I decided enough was enough, and here I am now. I can almost guarantee that you will leave Islam after going through this site thoroughly, and I wish you the best of luck and offer you my assistance and advice. |
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PAKI88
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I don't support Hitler or anything, I really didn't know 88 meant hale hitler, just my favorite number is 8... and Please answer the question not about my name, and thank you for those who did answer...
Hitler can suck my ****.
Also Wahabism is not the true interpretation of Islam....It is based on what the guy who created it thought Islam should be like. For example for rape in the Qur'an it says you need 3 witnesses to say it DID NOT happen, but the Saudi's made it so YOU NEED 3 witnesses to say it happened, which makes doesn't make sense at all.. That is one of many. |
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Ram
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| PAKI88 wrote: |
| Also Wahabism is not the true interpretation of Islam....It is based on what the guy who created it thought Islam should be like. For example for rape in the Qur'an it says you need 3 witnesses to say it DID NOT happen, but the Saudi's made it so YOU NEED 3 witnesses to say it happened, which makes doesn't make sense at all.. That is one of many. |
You need 4 witnesses not 3. Woman needs to produce 4 good and righteous Muslim male (not female or non-Muslim) witnesses to prove that she was raped.
What do you mean when you say, "it DID NOT happen"? This does not make any sense. If the rape DID NOT happen then what is the point of producing witnesses? How can you prove something DID NOT happen? You can only prove that something DID happen. There would NOT be any witnesses if the rape DID NOT happen. I hope you understand this simple logic. |
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IamFound
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The day I read the Qur'an was the day I knew that I could never follow such a religion...
Within the first few pages, I saw the violence that I had spent my life trying to defend.
Being a part of this forum is what truly finalized my decision to leave Islam for good.
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VCTech
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The day I read the Qur'an was the day I knew that I could never follow such a religion...
Within the first few pages, I saw the violence that I had spent my life trying to defend.
Being a part of this forum is what truly finalized my decision to leave Islam for good. |
Wow! just after read the first few pages then you can understand the whole things until you make decision to leave Islam.. Why not you share with all of us here what you get actually from the first few pages you read or maybe you not read at all. 
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Cassandra
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Haik Monsieur
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| VCTech wrote: |
| IamFound wrote: |
The day I read the Qur'an was the day I knew that I could never follow such a religion...
Within the first few pages, I saw the violence that I had spent my life trying to defend.
Being a part of this forum is what truly finalized my decision to leave Islam for good. |
Wow! just after read the first few pages then you can understand the whole things until you make decision to leave Islam.. Why not you share with all of us here what you get actually from the first few pages you read or maybe you not read at all. |
What about trying it yourself? Start from the second chapter of your Quran (First chapter is a replica of Gathas, a very short one). Let us see how far you can go without meeting words like "Kill" or "Hell". Go on Muhammadan..!
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