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oooooooh my ..oooooooh my ...!!! ., how are you doing dear ABI FATHAN? I am glad you are reading this thread and I am happy you would like to know more about Jabir ibn Abdullah
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| okay..okay ... now i wanna know who was Jabir ... would you tell me who was he ? |
yes..yes..you wanna know.. wanna know?? okay..okay okie..docABI.. We will teach you., You have joined ffi one and half year back but you have yet to FEEL THE PULSE of ffi., that is O.K., we will teach you.. I will teach you..
So...Jabir ibn Abdullah: Jabir ibn Abdullah ibn Amr ibn Haram Al-Ansari was Ṣaḥābah.. THE COMPANION of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH). Born in the present Medina which was known at that time as Yathrub. He was born 15 years before the Hijra .. son of a tribe of Khizraj a product of paternal cousin relationship and his mother was Naseeba binte Uqba ibn Uddi. Off course THERE ARE MANY STORIES from SHIA ISLAM on Jabir ibn ., if you would like to know more.. READ THE BOOK.. pay $4.50 order it from this link
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ABI FATHAN
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Muhammad saw said to Jabir "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'...
do you know why ? 
neaaaah... you dont know ofcourse. Jabir was a young boy so that Muhammad asked him marry a young girl not a matron one.
so what a stupid conclusion Haik has with these "I would better call it obsession to virgins"
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Islamis_Allah_Tashit
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Muhammad saw said to Jabir "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'...
do you know why ?
neaaaah... you dont know ofcourse. Jabir was a young boy so that Muhammad asked him marry a young girl not a matron one. |
So why did Muhammad, an old man, marry a young little 7 year old girl, rather than a matron?
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ABI FATHAN
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Muhammad saw said to Jabir "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'...
do you know why ?
neaaaah... you dont know ofcourse. Jabir was a young boy so that Muhammad asked him marry a young girl not a matron one. |
So why did Muhammad, an old man, marry a young little 7 year old girl, rather than a matron? |
it was political marry not an OBSESSION to virgin. as you know Muhammad has many wives in different age.
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Muhammad saw said to Jabir "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'...
do you know why ?
neaaaah... you dont know ofcourse. Jabir was a young boy so that Muhammad asked him marry a young girl not a matron one. |
So why did Muhammad, an old man, marry a young little 7 year old girl, rather than a matron? |
it was political marry not an OBSESSION to virgin. as you know Muhammad has many wives in different age. |
So why did Allah send HAM dreams about Aishah? Is it because Allah could not do a thing about politics of Arabs?
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Muhammad saw said to Jabir "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'...
do you know why ?
neaaaah... you dont know ofcourse. Jabir was a young boy so that Muhammad asked him marry a young girl not a matron one. |
So why did Muhammad, an old man, marry a young little 7 year old girl, rather than a matron? |
it was political marry not an OBSESSION to virgin. as you know Muhammad has many wives in different age. |
If it was political, then why did Muhammad have an erotic dream where an angel delivered her to him in a silk sheet? Does that sound political to you? What a liar.
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ABI FATHAN
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Muhammad was a prophet and every prophet has a divinity dream. that dream was a sign from God as you know Aisha came with gibrail in his dream
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| Muhammad was a prophet and every prophet has a divinity dream. that dream was a sign from God as you know Aisha came with gibrail in his dream |
I thought you said it was political. Which is it? Oh boy, I'm going to love this invention you will create.
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ABI FATHAN
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i thought u said Muhammad has erotic dream as proof of his obsession to Aisha
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| i thought u said Muhammad has erotic dream as proof of his obsession to Aisha |
I did, and I still think it is. I'm not the one saying two different things, you are. So don't bother answering my question with a question. It won't work. Try something else.
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ABI FATHAN
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one thing that you have to do is trying to understand the reply of mine ..
God choosed Aisya for Muhammad ..it's true .. and there was political effect of his mariage ...it's true ...
Muhammad took Aisya as his wive with his father as reason for reconsiliation and God sent approval of it.
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Haik Monsieur
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Muhammad saw said to Jabir "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'...
do you know why ?
neaaaah... you dont know ofcourse. Jabir was a young boy so that Muhammad asked him marry a young girl not a matron one.
so what a stupid conclusion Haik has with these "I would better call it obsession to virgins" |
Excuse me Muhammadan; I am not interested in playschool business at all and that is why I didn't answer your previous post. But here you accuse me of being stupid in concluding Muhammad had a virgin obsession. What good reason you have to say my conclusion is stupid?
I know of Muslim acrobatics well and your tiny Muslim brain can not get the facts right even if given intravenously. See the hadith of Sahih Bukhari (I really hate this business): 
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?' [Sahih Bukhari. Book #62, Hadith #17]
Focus on the bolded part. It betrays your Muhammad's obsession because he asked why does not his friend have a liking for virgins.
Do not come up with excuses like "it is wrong translation". I stopped pasting Arabic stuffs here in this English forum, but if needed I can post the hadith in Arabic to prove my point.
This hadith is MUTAWATIR (Consecutive) Damn.., it looks like the whole of Bukhari volumes contain this crap to expose the real Muhammad who had a particular liking for virgins..!
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one thing that you have to do is trying to understand the reply of mine ..
God choosed Aisya for Muhammad ..it's true .. and there was political effect of his mariage ...it's true ...
Muhammad took Aisya as his wive with his father as reason for reconsiliation and God sent approval of it. |
Oh bullsh!t. First you tried to write it off as merely a political thing, then when someone points out the right thing, you change your tune. Then, when there's a contradiction, you try to make both work. Why are you people such habitual liars? Why do you people keep inventing whatever you think it takes? Why don't you have any shame in doing this?
And, you're still wrong. The dream came before any notion of political reconciliation, not after it. When he first saw Ayesha in real life he said that he had seen her in a dream earlier which means the dream came before any idea of political reconciliation. Of course, I don't even believe that he saw her in a dream. I think he made that up. I'll tell you, I've never seen anybody lie more about their religion and make up excuses for it than Muslims. They're the worst when it comes to this. But I guess I can't blame them because when they have Muhammad as their profit, there's going to be a lot of excuse inventing needed.
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ABI FATHAN
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Muhammad saw said to Jabir "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'...
do you know why ?
neaaaah... you dont know ofcourse. Jabir was a young boy so that Muhammad asked him marry a young girl not a matron one.
so what a stupid conclusion Haik has with these "I would better call it obsession to virgins" |
Excuse me Muhammadan; I am not interested in playschool business at all and that is why I didn't answer your previous post. But here you accuse me of being stupid in concluding Muhammad had a virgin obsession. What good reason you have to say my conclusion is stupid?
I know of Muslim acrobatics well and your tiny Muslim brain can not get the facts right even if given intravenously. See the hadith of Sahih Bukhari (I really hate this business):
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?' [Sahih Bukhari. Book #62, Hadith #17]
Focus on the bolded part. It betrays your Muhammad's obsession because he asked why does not his friend have a liking for virgins.
Do not come up with excuses like "it is wrong translation". I stopped pasting Arabic stuffs here in this English forum, but if needed I can post the hadith in Arabic to prove my point.
This hadith is MUTAWATIR (Consecutive) Damn.., it looks like the whole of Bukhari volumes contain this crap to expose the real Muhammad who had a particular liking for virgins..! |
and what's wrong with that word ??
it's about nice honey moon and nice mariage ... jabir was a young boy and he need it. it was ideal condition that supported by prophet for Jabir.
it was all about Jabir not Muhammad himself. so that's why i called your conclusion as stupidity.
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ABI FATHAN
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| And, you're still wrong. The dream came before any notion of political reconciliation, not after it. . |
so what kind of political reconsiliation u mean ? huh ?...
Aisya was all about her father ... her father was very importhant man for Muhammad saw. some time it wasnt about nation but clan.
Muhammad made new union out of clan system which called UMMAH. reconsiliation was not only after heejra but before it in mecca.
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