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LCD
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No, it is not “clear”.
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Then read it again. You know reading something twice often clears things up for Athiests like yourself.
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One can have “Judeo-Christian values” and still support separation of church and state.
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And where did I say, I ddn't support that. However, the Seperation of Church and state is an easy Catch phrase that every athiest like yourself throew out there, when you see a Ten Commandments display outside a courtbuilding, or read the pledge of Allegiance which states, one nation under God. That was the pledge of our nation for many years, until people like you saw that and said, "Seperation of church and state. Seperation of Church and state. W a h W a h W a h!"
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Also, this country does not run on the idea of Judiasm/Christianity. It runs on the idea that; “all men are born free and equal, and have certain natural, essential, and unalienable rights; among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; that of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property; in fine, that of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness.”
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I said, and if i didn't, i'm clearly stating now. that Judeo Christian Values are what this country was founded on and also WHAT our principles of democracy are founded on. Funny, where does that little quote come from could it be:
We hold these truths to be self evident. That all men are created equal. That they are endowed by their creator with certain Inalienable rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
I see quite clearly the idea of Protection of Life, and of Freedom, but the Pursuit of Happiness is NOT "that of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property" Though it may entail what a person does, legally within the boundaries of the LAW, in pursuit of that Happiness, but is clearly not a RIGHT of the person just to take outside the boundaries.
And Freedom is contingent on several ideas, including obeying laws set down by a majority of others, not following what you want just cause you want it... and feel its your right. So you can sprout your ideas of what it means to me all day, when what it really means is quite clear that people's freedoms are contingent on certain values. You wouldn't bat an eye if it involved killing someone for something else, but If someone who was Gay didn't like the way things were run, then that gay man just has the right to do as he wishes, despite what the majority of people thing. Eh?
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Compare this with the Christian doctrine that states all men are born with sin and are destined to spend an eternity in hell if they don’t behave.
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1. They are two different things, i will not compare our rights to a spouted off piece of utter BS spoken by someone whose never read the bible.
2. One is talking about Values the other is talking about a system of rights.
3. When you can show me, the exact quote of what you've just spouted, i'll entertain your Childish understanding of what ahtiests like yourself clearly don't understand, but understand well enough if it happens to be murder, or actual adultery (unless it's you who is belig cheated on, or you are doing the cheating, then its okay. Or its wrong contingent on circumstance.)
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Also, let’s not forget the many passages in the bible that support the “idea” of slavery and discrimination against women, gays, Jews, and all non-Christians. |
Bible does not Support Slavery. You take that lie and shove it down your lying mouth.
Bible does not support Descrimination of JEWS. Nice Try.
It does not support descrimination of Non-Christians Either. 3 Strikes and your out.
Discussion of homosexuality lays in two places. One the Jewish LAW code of Ancient ISreal. Which nobody practices today.
Two Rules of Cleanliness and Sanitary measures of Ancient Isreal.
Which nobody practices Today.
And finally in the area of VALUES and a discussion of what Is biologically SAFE and moral.
Also, let's look at what the bible actually says, SHALL we little Aithiest?
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6 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. |
Blows apart your whole discrimination of Jews line.
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27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. |
Right there, shows it has to do with Value and at no place, does Paul say to descriminate, injure or Kill.
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mrcommonsensenow
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| And where did I say, I ddn't support that. However, the Seperation of Church and state is an easy Catch phrase that every athiest like yourself throew out there, when you see a Ten Commandments display outside a courtbuilding, or read the pledge of Allegiance which states, one nation under God. That was the pledge of our nation for many years, until people like you saw that and said, "Seperation of church and state. Seperation of Church and state. W a h W a h W a h! " |
The principals of separation of Church and state are very clear and very wise. It is meant to protect the government from religion and religion from government. Any attempt by either side to blur this line of this separation MUST be seen as a threat to the principles that founded this country. BTW, “under God” was added to the pledge in 1954 and “in God we trust” was added in 1864. W a h W a h W a h! yourself 
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I said, and if i didn't, i'm clearly stating now. that Judeo Christian Values are what this country was founded on and also WHAT our principles of democracy are founded on. Funny, where does that little quote come from could it be:
We hold these truths to be self evident. That all men are created equal. That they are endowed by their creator with certain Inalienable rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. |
I did not know Judeo Christian values had a patent on the creator concept. 
Compare this with the Christian doctrine that states all men are born with sin and are destined to spend an eternity in hell if they don’t behave.
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| 1. They are two different things, i will not compare our rights to a spouted off piece of utter BS spoken by someone whose never read the bible. |
I have 5 years of catholic school under my belt. Not only did I read the bible, I studied it at noisome.  Your attempt to disassociate this aspect of Judeo-Christian values is amusing. 
Also, let’s not forget the many passages in the bible that support the “idea” of slavery and discrimination against women, gays, Jews, and all non-Christians.
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| Bible does not Support Slavery. You take that lie and shove it down your lying mouth. |
Sorry LCD but its not lie.
Leviticus 25:44-46
44 And as for thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, whom thou shalt have; of the nations that are round about you, of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they have begotten in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall make them an inheritance for your children after you, to hold for a possession; of them shall ye take your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel ye shall not rule, one over another, with rigor.
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| Bible does not support Descrimination of JEWS. Nice Try. |
Martin Luther and many others that spent their lives studding the Bible would disagree.
http://www.iht.com/articles/1995/03/25/bible.php
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| It does not support descrimination of Non-Christians Either. 3 Strikes and your out. |
Uh, huh.
"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." -- 2 John 7
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." -- 2 Cor.6:14-17
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
I can FEEL the love for non-christians in these words.
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LCD
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It does not support descrimination of Non-Christians Either. 3 Strikes and your out.
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For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." -- 2 John 7
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1. These are people who state that Jesus never lived. Calling them a deciever is not descriminating against them. Sorry. show me a line that says, "Kill them? Destroy them. Take their rights away." Can you do that? No you can't/
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Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." -- 2 Cor.6:14-17
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1. Being Seperate is NOT descrimination. It specifically refers to christians not hanging with people who disrespect Christ, or mix evil acts with good notions.
Now, if you had a line that said. "Keep these people from your churches. Offer them not Christ. Offer them not the Salvation." Well, then that would not be descrimination. As it stands, the above is NOT descrimination. Sorry, that's your second strike.
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"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
I can FEEL the love for non-christians in these words.
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And i can feel the BS Rising my friend. One, the above is an example of the Jewish LAW code. A society in Sinai that doesn't exist anymore. and if this is to be used in Context, it is to be used with the full understanding of the idea? That is that God had just taken these people from Bondage. YES. He REMOVED them from Slavery. He also was in their lives on a daily basis providing FOOD. Providing Protection. He was Visable. So, YES, in this CASE, a person who Worshipped another GOD in the PRESENCE of GOD ˙imself. YES, that was an Act of Treason and Got DEATH.
The last refers to Jews, and is not an example of what you're even talking about. I refuse to discuss the last without a discussion of the complete idea. How convenient of you to post something, you don't even understand. Catholic my ass. |
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LCD
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I did not know Judeo Christian values had a patent on the creator concept.
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Well, since Islam was not part of our Country, nor Siekism, then I'm got aware of a system of rights under those religions. And since people freaks like yourself believe you can believe in a creator, based on what Without the Bible, maybe you can show me how Knowledge of a GOD exists without Judiasm.
If you can show me how other religions believe in Loving Gods... that are not cold and austere, and send hate and damnation on the people for slights against them, percieved or otherwise, you might have a point. At the moment, you don't.
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Compare this with the Christian doctrine that states all men are born with sin and are destined to spend an eternity in hell if they don’t behave.
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And i told you why don't you give me the quote on that, Mr. I was a catholic and studied the bible for most of my life?
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I have 5 years of catholic school under my belt. Not only did I read the bible, I studied it at noisome. Your attempt to disassociate this aspect of Judeo-Christian values is amusing.
Also, let’s not forget the many passages in the bible that support the “idea” of slavery and discrimination against women, gays, Jews, and all non-Christians.
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Golly for Catholic, you seem to have ignored Pauls Writings. Specifically Galatians and Romans. And Thessalonians, which deal with this stuff, guess your supposed CAtholic Upbringing REALLY was a sort of lie? Wasn't it?
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Sorry LCD but its not lie.
Leviticus 25:44-46
44 And as for thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, whom thou shalt have; of the nations that are round about you, of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they have begotten in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall make them an inheritance for your children after you, to hold for a possession; of them shall ye take your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel ye shall not rule, one over another, with rigor.
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Voluntary Slavery is not the same as Involuntary slavery. Slavery is also not a single WORD that you can use to mean one thing and one thing only. That's dishonest of you, and i'm tired of dishonest people like yourself distorting the truth.
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| Bible does not support Descrimination of JEWS. Nice Try. |
are the Writings of Matin Luthor the Bible? No. They are not. Thanks for playing. |
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mrcommonsensenow
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For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." -- 2 John 7
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| 1. These are people who state that Jesus never lived. Calling them a deciever is not descriminating against them. Sorry. show me a line that says, "Kill them? Destroy them. Take their rights away." Can you do that? No you can't/ |
Labeling a person with a derogatory term like “deceiver” is not discrimination?
dis·crim·i·nate
1. to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit
Since you appear to have an extra think skull  (as well as an insolent mouth), I will make this crystal clear. Distinguishing some one as a “deceiver” simply because they do not share your belief in the existence of a Jesus of Nazareth, is DISCRIMINATORY!
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." -- 2 Cor.6:14-17
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| 1. Being Seperate is NOT descrimination. |
Uh, huh. Sure.
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
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| And i can feel the BS Rising my friend. I refuse to discuss the last without a discussion of the complete idea. Catholic my ass. |
I have no doubt you can feel the BS rising. I suggest you stop talking before it’s to late.
I did not know Judeo Christian values had a patent on the creator concept.
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| maybe you can show me how Knowledge of a GOD exists without Judiasm. |
I absolutely could but I’d rather just call you a moron.
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| If you can show me how other religions believe in Loving Gods... that are not cold and austere, and send hate and damnation on the people for slights against them, percieved or otherwise, you might have a point. At the moment, you don't. |
Loving Gods that are not cold and austere? Well, that leaves your vengeful petty God out of the loop. Also, Christian doctrine DOES state all men are born with sin. Again, could prove this to you but I think I’ll just call you a moron one more time.
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| Voluntary Slavery is not the same as Involuntary slavery. |
“they shall be your possession” “And ye shall make them an inheritance for your children after you, to hold for a possession”
This sounds like Voluntary Slavery to you? Oh, that’s right, you’re a moron.
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| Bible does not support Descrimination of JEWS. |
Does the Bible AT ANY TIME depict Jews as hypocrites, apostates, liars, and sinners?
Yes or no.
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LCD
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For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." -- 2 John 7
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| 1. These are people who state that Jesus never lived. Calling them a deciever is not descriminating against them. Sorry. show me a line that says, "Kill them? Destroy them. Take their rights away." Can you do that? No you can't/ |
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Labeling a person with a derogatory term like “deceiver” is not discrimination?
dis·crim·i·nate
1. to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit
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Main Entry: dis·crim·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: \dis-ˌkri-mə-ˈnā-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 1648
1 a: the act of discriminating b: the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently
2: the quality or power of finely distinguishing
3 a: the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually b: prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment <racial discrimination>
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Prejudiced or prejucicial outlookm and "act" of discriminating.
From what i can tell, Descrimination refers to acts. The verse you quote calls them unbelievers, buit doesn't TELL you to call them unbelievers.
It also doesn't tell you to "Act" against them. It tells you to leave them be.
You really are reaching.
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Since you appear to have an extra think skull (as well as an insolent mouth), I will make this crystal clear. Distinguishing some one as a “deceiver” simply because they do not share your belief in the existence of a Jesus of Nazareth, is DISCRIMINATORY!
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Nope. It's inaction. And the quote says they are unbelievers but it deson't tell you to call them such, which would be an "act" of descrimination. Nice try.
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Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." -- 2 Cor.6:14-17 |
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| 1. Being Seperate is NOT descrimination. |
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Uh, huh. Sure.
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Descrimination is not inaction it is action. Far as I know, in a free country you don't have to associate with someone who degrades your beliefs. Since when are Athiests clamoring to hang with christians?
Show me Athiests who want to go to Church and are upset by that, then you'll have a point.
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"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
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| And i can feel the BS Rising my friend. I refuse to discuss the last without a discussion of the complete idea. Catholic my ass. |
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I have no doubt you can feel the BS rising. I suggest you stop talking before it’s to late.
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So, afraid to discuss the concept. That's what you are. Coward.
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I did not know Judeo Christian values had a patent on the creator concept.
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| maybe you can show me how Knowledge of a GOD exists without Judiasm. |
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I absolutely could but I’d rather just call you a moron.
Because your a coward, and really have no reason to debate at all. You want to be right, so you result to attacks. Lame attacks, and wrong use of Definitions, but attacks, none the less. Coward.
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If you can show me how other religions believe in Loving Gods... that are not cold and austere, and send hate and damnation on the people for slights against them, percieved or otherwise, you might
have a point. At the moment, you don't. |
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Loving Gods that are not cold and austere? Well, that leaves your vengeful petty God out of the loop. Also, Christian doctrine DOES state all men are born with sin. Again, could prove this to you but I think I’ll just call you a moron one more time.
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And your inability to debate shows you to be a coward.
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| Voluntary Slavery is not the same as Involuntary slavery. |
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“they shall be your possession” “And ye shall make them an inheritance for your children after you, to hold for a possession”
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This sounds like Voluntary Slavery to you? Oh, that’s right, you’re a moron.
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No, because you haven't dealt with the other verses, You've ignored them. so by not showing them, you think you are right. In reality you are a coward and the same clote clipping liar as a muslim.
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| Bible does not support Descrimination of JEWS. |
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Does the Bible AT ANY TIME depict Jews as hypocrites, apostates, liars, and sinners?
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Depiction is not descrimination. I will not answer a loaded question.
Does the Bible tell you to descriminate against Jews?
I will answer that question, since that is the proper question, not a loaded question like the one you asked above.
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Labeling a person with a derogatory term like “deceiver” is not discrimination?
dis·crim·i·nate
1. to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit
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Interesting:
Main Entry: dis·crim·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: \dis-ˌkri-mə-ˈnā-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 1648
1 a: the act of discriminating b: the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently
2: the quality or power of finely distinguishing
3 a: the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually b: prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment <racial discrimination>
Prejudiced or prejucicial outlookm and "act" of discriminating.
From what i can tell, Descrimination refers to acts. The verse you quote calls them unbelievers, buit doesn't TELL you to call them unbelievers.
It also doesn't tell you to "Act" against them. It tells you to leave them be. |
It tells you not to associate with them and to think of them as deceivers and antichrists. That is an “act” and a “practice” and an “action”.
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| You really are reaching. |
I'm reaching? Talk about the pot calling the Kettle black
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I said it TELLS you not to associate with them! It tells you to leave them alone. IT does not tell you to harrass or hurt them!
You are stretching!
Technically, every nerd who isn't invited to a party is descriminated against!
I'm not going to waste time on this board and talk about "percieved" slights, as opposed to Actual HARRASSMENT and mistreatment!
You can talk about HOw touchy feely you feel on the matter to the cows come home. How you precieve seperateness is not the truth of the matter.
And i'll say it again. do Athiests want to be invited to our churches? No?
Do they want to hang with us? No! They call us stupid mythwoshippers, and attack us virulently.
Christians or jews who ignore others because of attacks on their faith is not descrimination! We consider them seperate and that's it. WE do not Consider ourselves better than them and you have YET to show me a single line that says: YOU are better than they are." When you can do that.
Descrimination also has distinct bearings! It can be reflected in hiring practices, Yes, it can. It can be reflected in how you TREAT someone if you work with them, and you are their boss, most assuradly.
BUT you had better damn well notice what that verse says, It says, Once you discover someone who wirulently ATTACKS, and lies about your religion, it says not to associate with them. It doesn't say to immediately ASSUME someone is a non-believer. NOw if that person is working with you, then yeah you got an issue. That'd be descrimination.
But if you don't work for the person or TREAT them in an act of distinct descrimination. And if you don't socialize with them, then I don't see you got any point.
People from the upper class suburbs don't usually hang around on the lower east side. Is that descrimination to? non-action? Now i could see you might have a point if Rich people vehemently label them some kind of name and THEN go about visiting the Lower east side and inflicting things on them. Such as the Way the Clan would label blacks the N-word, and Go about in their neighbohoods, burning crosses on their lawns. That seems to be an actual act of descrimination, other than a touchy feely theory about it. those seem to me a greater ACT of SIN and violence.
But from what I see, you got nothing. NOTHING.
And other than your idea of descrimination as a "percieved slight" I don't believe we have started jailing people for thoughts--YET.
I think you've got nothing at all to go on here. and the bible has more than a number of passages,(which i showed you and you ignored) that under Christ there are no more distinctions. Free will and all, people have the right to reject Christ. And they do.
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If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
LCD says ABSOLUTELY NOT!
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LCD
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| mrcommonsensenow wrote: |
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
LCD says ABSOLUTELY NOT! |
dude, your distinction or statement or whatever has nothing to do with anything.
I'm not going to debate "emotions" as if Athiests feel bad they can't go to church to DISS christ and god.
Which they don't. |
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mrcommonsensenow
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Stop your babbling. My point is that a bigot that keeps his ideology to himself is still a bigot.
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LCD
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| mrcommonsensenow wrote: |
| Stop your babbling. My point is that a bigot that keeps his ideology to himself is still a bigot. |
and like i said, WTF, are we thought Police?
And antiquated man may in fact have bigotted thoughts, but as far as i'm concerned, no action about such thoughts does not make him a bigot.
Sorry. Dude. That's betwen him and a higher power, and you are not that Higher power.
You cannot read minds. That's the end of discussion |
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mrcommonsensenow
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| LCD wrote: |
| That's the end of discussion |
That’s the smartest thing you’ve said thus far.
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LCD
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| mrcommonsensenow wrote: |
| LCD wrote: |
| That's the end of discussion |
That’s the smartest thing you’ve said thus far. |
Least i don't act like a whiny muslim and resort to one line statements, wasting every PERSON'S TIME!
Apparently, you have no commentary on what i posted. Typical Athiest.
Jus tlike a Typical Muslim.
So, I ask, What makes you different from any muslim who attacks like a pit bull and when he/she can't respond to texts, ends up nagging with one line statements?
What seperates you from them? Nothing apparently. |
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mrcommonsensenow
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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I do not see the point in continuing a conversation with someone foolish enough to think it’s not discriminatory to avoid associating with "deceivers"  and "antichrists" as long as it's not said to their faces.
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