Monogamy and proof of no polygamy in religion

[Val Petridis]

Marriage is a blessed event and there are blessings in all types of consensual sexual practices, including waiting till after marriage to have sex if that is your romantic preference. However, God damns no one for having sex if they do no harm to their partner(s) or anyone else- if it's consensual. This type of guilt has led to many people doing evil because they felt damned for something God had never condemned.

Now let’s look at the misconceptions that led to polygamy

According to the Koran one may take as wife one of three designated types: a widow, an orphan or any of the above. Anyone not obeying this rule of taking one wife does not obey the Koran and other belief. Mohamed according to his own biography says he married a widow till she died then received from God one wife that represented the ten nations designated by the Hebrew bible, 10 in one. He had female companions that in Arabic were called mates as in friends but both in the Koran and in the Hadith Mohamed is reported to be married only to one woman; the widow. In fact, he told two such friends that if they do not smarten up he would find other friends, but does not use the idea of divorce or marriage in concern to them. As it is known and Mohamed says this himself in his Hadith, the Koran was written while he was married to the widow and only the widow, thus this passage concerning two female companions means they are definitely female friends and not wives. The Arabic term can simply mean mate.

Muslim prophets have said that in heaven one gets one wife of the ten nations.
I had a dream on Jan 15 where all ten females from all ten nations laid in bed with me, meaning were laying in beds I was in to represent allying (to a lie) with them, big blessing.

“We enlightened Muslims have determined that to serve justice one must be monogamous”. Misogyny, terrorism xenophobia, anti progress and non equality are now the vestiges of infidels and non peaceful Muslims. “It was the rich rulers who corrupted the interpretations of the Koran”
Misogyny and polygamy have become characteristic of those who also advocate terrorism and as many Muslims know, Jihad is not an idea found in the Koran and one is not allowed to do evil nor kill under any condition (hit islamicworld.com for Islamic condemnations of jihad, terrorism and the misogynistic and polygamist ideas now held by those who do evils)
As already mentioned Mohamed was brilliant when he pointed out that Christ was a prophet like all others and one can become a prophet too.
Christ represented the son of god or the only begotten on the cross as the only begotten is a universal being that is timeless and beyond one incarnation.
When looking into the Buddhist texts one does not finds any mention of polygamy; in fact the idea of one earth mother and other such monogamous concepts promotes monogamy and nothing but. A Buddhist monk agreed with me saying that monogamy is the enlightened paths end.
In 1844 Siyyid `Alí-Muhammad of Shiraz or the Bob prophesied the coming of a manifest unity to all religions. One of his students and followers. Mírzá Husayn `Alí of Núr took the name of Bahá'u'lláh and founded Ba’hai: a religious movement that tried being the manifest glory that Bob forsaw. Bob did not believe Ba’hai was in the right time and place to fully fulfil his prophesy, though he was an important stepping stone to this actualisation in our time by us. This letter is such manifest glory of the conceptual unity of all religions based on their own ideas from the religious source books they follow, including Ba’hai. I unify all the religions conceputally; this includes moral practices that athiests and religious people practise. Social norms all adults understand as parts of life that need not be made issues of morality. It's our conduct in such situations that matter. It is not food or diet that matters but the conduct towards each other. To cook a calf in its own mothers milk is to use a mother's nuturing love against the child, it’s a metaphor not a dictem of diet; however, you may eat as you wish. I found no prohibition of eating in any Hindu source text. Inhuman treatment of animals will lead to punishment on lower planes after one dies. One can eat meat if one tends to animals with love and proper care.

The main difference between this work and Bahais is one does not need to join any religion, including Bahai to achieve universality, one can bel;ieve in all dieties as descrived abefore and remain their original religion, though one can convert to any if they so desire. In otherwords, all religions can reach a peaceful co-existance and mutally compliment each others belief without having to join any group or religion. One does not have to become behai or anything to be peaceful, universal and a believer in all Gods systems and glories.

Next email back to the topic of building worlds and I will describe other things concerning building worlds, what might be seen and how to deal with it.
For example, I will describe how Inuit mystics create and access worlds and spirits , in two days
Appendage for the first book
According to the book of Mormons in Jacob chapter two it is written that everyman will marry one woman and have no bound concubines, or women forced to be mates for sexual pleasure to any one man. This does not change the consensual sexual relationships I have mentioned above and the secret teaching of the end of Sodom. The book of moron is explicit that one binds only one woman in marriage and none for sexual pleasure, but makes no reference to sexual partners not bound and consenting as mentioned abo0ve.
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Val Petridis

[escapingthepain]

This is a joke right?

Have you never read the hadiths where it says that Muhammed have sex with all of his wives in one night?
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What the hell did I do?

[Val Petridis]

Yes I did, homour me and quote it for me. You might find it an interesting read to look at it again, as you do ask yourself, why might it be monogamous?
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Val Petridis

[escapingthepain]

So I take it that you think he did it one night at a time eh?

You are crazy my dear, I'm sorry, I've read more hadith than you can imagine, and I can tell you, Muhammad had sex, lots and lots and lots of it with many women and even a nine year old girl, so answer this oh crazy Val, Is it allowed in your religion to have sex with young girls?...
That is more important to consider than polygamy/ monogamy...

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[Val Petridis]

I bet you thought that the Koran mentioned more than one wife when the hadif told you Muhammad had only one wife, the widow, during its writing. You have already proven yourself incapable of understanding the texts, Blessed be allah and his prophet Muhammad Stop thinking about sex in that fashion and reducing Muhammad. Do you fear quoting the section? Do you think I asked you to think about it because I do not know what I speak of? The hadif is a ,emntal excercise to find out who has fedelity to God. Do you sleep with minors, do you think this is acceptible based on a misreading? Quote me any sections and I will show you what they mean. You read but chose to read it with preconceived notions. My friend The key is Muhammad was married only to the widow , you know that, so if the Koran is only about Muhammads time as a monagomous person and as you have been taught to read the hadif with this precedent , your interpretations cannot be right. For those who taught you the secrets of interpretation , the islamic fathers and yes mothers hoped you would understand , as I do. Praise be with Allah and may he bring enlightenment and peace to all.
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Val Petridis

[escapingthepain]

You know what Val? I'm not even going to reply to any more of your posts as you can't even accept what the muslims since the time of Muhammad have accepted! And if I were you I'd be extremely careful telling any muslim what you have mentioned here as they'd oust you out as an apostate (murtad) or a heretic and a munafiq and you might find yourself with a fatawa made against your life by the muslims who love your god Allah.
Hope you enjoy your self-deception Val, as you are one of the few who believe what you say about islam is true!
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[ixolite]

[Val Petridis]

I am Sorry you felt that way. I guess its like the use of the word Jihad, some thought it was an idea that was accepted and condemned by Islam then many Islamic scholars proved it was not. I am sorry that you made Islam look so bad. I a debate one only runs and avoids evidence when they know they are wrong. I thought you might try to prove me wrong, but you did not even try, you hide behind cultural paradigms that you were unable to prove. Are you saying one is not allowed to debate about the Koran in Islam? Are you saying you prefer to say such practices cannot be questioned or one suffers an inquisition? If these are the real practices God(s) condemns that they cannot be justified using Muhammad texts? Thank Allah that most Muslims are much more enlightened and invite discussion and debate. I understand you do not feel secure with these beliefs to have them examined as I realise you know I am right. I am glad this is not reflective of the truth of Islam.
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[Val Petridis]

Sorry I noticed sonmeone did actually post the quotes. Yes the word companion as in friend is the basis of the misinterpretations of the Koran and Hadith. Thus, you are correct that in the Koran all females other than the widow are not wives. I will deal with the other quotes later today.
thank you.
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[Val Petridis]

The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night The quote is Mohammed went to see all his female companions in one night , the sexual relation as you notice is added but is not part of the passage, yes I have seen and spoken to several female friends over 20 in one night.
I will return tonight
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[farside]

Val, you may want to provide links in your website to the following three lessons:

http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Farsideology:_Lesson_6_-_SEX

http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Farsideology:_Lesson_9_-_Four_Wives

http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Farsideology:_Lesson_11_-_Marriage_Fidelity

Your website needs some juicing up.

Kind Regards,
Farside

[Val Petridis]

Thank you for the quotes my good friend and I will not reduce us by fighting as you recommend, but we never fought, thus we never reduced ourselves between each other. Thank you my other friend for the links as well.

The key to interpreting the Koran and Hadith was given; the Arabic word means friend and companion. The word mate can be interpreted as it is commonly used by the British as friend” Hi mate”. If one does not read the Koran or Hadith with preconceived sexual notions the reference to Muhammad meeting with his female friends would not be seen as sexual. The meeting with the nine year old, God forbid, would not be seen as sexual. Here is an easy exercise to interpret both books,
" He had female companions that in Arabic were called mates as in friends but both in the Koran and in the Hadith Mohamed is reported to be married only to one woman; the widow." Thus replace all other references to wives who are not the widow with the term friend and read these texts again, you will find only monogamy
Only the widow is Mohammed betroved wife.

"Q 4:3 And if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) only one or what your right hands possess; this is more proper, that you may not deviate from the right course."
To fear not being equitable to Orphans means according to the Islamic teachings a sign of an evil person, such evil people marry two or three or four wives. This section is a prohibition of polygamy, for it is only proper to marry one and be on the right side of God. For your right hand posses what is just or the marriage to only one wife, thus the secret teaching says, though its an obvious teaching, in monogamous marriage you do not deviate from what is right and sin, but in polygamy you are like the ones who mistreat orphans and truly are not a good people. Thus, the Koran and Hadith speak of only monogamy. An Islamic taxi driver once told me that it had been determined that to serve justice( the right hand and what is proper by the will of Allah) you must be monogamous. Section Q 4:3 would only be interpreted as promoting polygamy by the type of sinful person who would mistreat Orphans. Thank you Allah for making sure I was monogamous and on the righteous path you taught Mohammed and all the prophets of all religions and nations.
Peace
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Val Petridis

[farside]

[Val Petridis]

Debating can be good as long as those debating are not argueing in a negative sense. Debates help settle issues and make people come to common understandings and further the thoughts and knowldge on issues. A good debate for instance is the type that occurs in political legislative institutions where in the debate brings up issues necessary to create legislation that takes all necessary elements into account.
Peace
A good debate leads to peaceful agreement
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