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katlike



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If Allah used the actual cuurency that was used during Yusuf time assuming it was someting else, then the verse will be meaningless, i.e. the people who heard the verse for the first time would have understood nothing as to how much such currency is equal to


As it stands the verse is now meaningless. i.e people who hear the verse for the first time are able to understand allah is unable to convert currency. 1.00 USD = 0.690868 EUR = 1.0494 CAD = 0.384951 OMR = 3.67330 AED = 1.20436 AUD.

See how easy that was? Are you really saying it is better for allah to be inaccurate with his message to Arabs?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

katlike wrote:
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If Allah used the actual cuurency that was used during Yusuf time assuming it was someting else, then the verse will be meaningless, i.e. the people who heard the verse for the first time would have understood nothing as to how much such currency is equal to


As it stands the verse is now meaningless. i.e people who hear the verse for the first time are able to understand allah is unable to convert currency. 1.00 USD = 0.690868 EUR = 1.0494 CAD = 0.384951 OMR = 3.67330 AED = 1.20436 AUD.

See how easy that was? Are you really saying it is better for allah to be inaccurate with his message to Arabs?


can you please move your comment somewhere else

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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can you please move your comment somewhere else


My apologies to all, and I am not sure why now as I look at the thread topics, but I was thinking this was the discussion thread and not the debate thread. Please forgive me, I stand corrected.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a good pick up, proving Muhammad was a liar, or Allah was a liar, or both.

According to Muhammad, Joseph was sold for a few dirhams counted. That was specific. Not only was the consideration a few dirhams, but they were counted.

AB's excuse just doesn't cut it.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

katlike wrote:
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If Allah used the actual cuurency that was used during Yusuf time assuming it was someting else, then the verse will be meaningless, i.e. the people who heard the verse for the first time would have understood nothing as to how much such currency is equal to


As it stands the verse is now meaningless. i.e people who hear the verse for the first time are able to understand allah is unable to convert currency. 1.00 USD = 0.690868 EUR = 1.0494 CAD = 0.384951 OMR = 3.67330 AED = 1.20436 AUD.

See how easy that was? Are you really saying it is better for allah to be inaccurate with his message to Arabs?



what in accuracy that you are taking about?

well, if a I buy a car for US$ 5 , then when I say that I bought it for any other equivelent currency, my statemnet still 100% correct

imagine I went to a country which has a currency that you know nothing about, then I came back and told that I really bought a cheap car for 10 Blahblah, assuming that the blahblah is the currecny that you have no knowledge of

do you reckon you will ask me and how much those 10 blahblah equel to?

see, now when I tell you how much iot is equal to in your currency, then it should make sense to you
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from now on, for any goon directing any comment to me while mentioning Allah and writing it with a small a, they will dismissed on the fly, and if they keep doing it three times (in comments to me), they will be dismissed for life
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AhmedBahgat wrote:
from now on, for any goon directing any comment to me while mentioning Allah and writing it with a small a, they will dismissed on the fly, and if they keep doing it three times (in comments to me), they will be dismissed for life


It is funny how the subconscious works. Repeat the word "talaq" three times and you are divorced, repeat the word "allah" three times and AB will dismiss you forever.

Do you think writing "allah" insults him? Please also tell me how I pronounce this word with a capital "A". I wouldn't want you to think I am talking about him with a small "a" if I ever meet you.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

charleslemartel wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
from now on, for any goon directing any comment to me while mentioning Allah and writing it with a small a, they will dismissed on the fly, and if they keep doing it three times (in comments to me), they will be dismissed for life


It is funny how the subconscious works. Repeat the word "talaq" three times and you are divorced, repeat the word "allah" three times and AB will dismiss you forever.

Do you think writing "allah" insults him? Please also tell me how I pronounce this word with a capital "A". I wouldn't want you to think I am talking about him with a small "a" if I ever meet you.


Good that you only said it twice with a lower case 'a', one more occurence would have meant dismissal for life.

Hi Ahmed,

Just clarifying, will you dismiss soemone for calling it three times with an "a", in a single post, or is it three times in total ?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anti-Jihad wrote:

Good that you only said it twice with a lower case 'a', one more occurence would have meant dismissal for life.


So you noticed?



Anti-Jihad wrote:

Hi Ahmed,

Just clarifying, will you dismiss soemone for calling it three times with an "a", in a single post, or is it three times in total ?


So very nasty of you. Why on earth would you want me to get dismissed for life ? Now he is sure to count it in "all" of my posts.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

charleslemartel wrote:

So very nasty of you. Why on earth would you want me to get dismissed for life ? Now he is sure to count it in "all" of my posts.



I have no intention of being dismissed for life by my dearest friend Ahmed, so I just asked to clarify.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AhmedBahgat wrote:
from now on, for any goon directing any comment to me while mentioning Allah and writing it with a small a, they will dismissed on the fly, and if they keep doing it three times (in comments to me), they will be dismissed for life


Objection your Honour; how would your Highness recognize if someone dismissed for life comes up in a new nic and engages your Majesty..?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haik Monsieur wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
from now on, for any goon directing any comment to me while mentioning Allah and writing it with a small a, they will dismissed on the fly, and if they keep doing it three times (in comments to me), they will be dismissed for life


Objection your Honour; how would your Highness recognize if someone dismissed for life comes up in a new nic and engages your Majesty..?

K.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anti-Jihad wrote:

Hi Ahmed,

Just clarifying, will you dismiss soemone for calling it three times with an "a", in a single post, or is it three times in total ?


Not in a one thread of course, they have to be three different incidents then the life dismissal, however if you shove a stick up your arse, then I will give ya three more chances
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AhmedBahgat wrote:
Anti-Jihad wrote:

Hi Ahmed,

Just clarifying, will you dismiss soemone for calling it three times with an "a", in a single post, or is it three times in total ?


Not in a one thread of course, they have to be three different incidents then the life dismissal, however if you shove a stick up your arse, then I will give ya three more chances

This is getting plain weird, how will you know if the other guy has done that?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AhmedBahgat wrote:
katlike wrote:
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If Allah used the actual cuurency that was used during Yusuf time assuming it was someting else, then the verse will be meaningless, i.e. the people who heard the verse for the first time would have understood nothing as to how much such currency is equal to


As it stands the verse is now meaningless. i.e people who hear the verse for the first time are able to understand allah is unable to convert currency. 1.00 USD = 0.690868 EUR = 1.0494 CAD = 0.384951 OMR = 3.67330 AED = 1.20436 AUD.

See how easy that was? Are you really saying it is better for allah to be inaccurate with his message to Arabs?



what in accuracy that you are taking about?

well, if a I buy a car for US$ 5 , then when I say that I bought it for any other equivelent currency, my statemnet still 100% correct

imagine I went to a country which has a currency that you know nothing about, then I came back and told that I really bought a cheap car for 10 Blahblah, assuming that the blahblah is the currecny that you have no knowledge of

do you reckon you will ask me and how much those 10 blahblah equel to?

see, now when I tell you how much iot is equal to in your currency, then it should make sense to you

It seems Allah had no knowledge of the Egyptian currency during Joseph's time - that is the point.
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