Embrace Islam, reap the benefits or deny it, lament the loss

[orangupahan]

Hi all,

There is a statement:
" You embrace Islam and reap the benefits or you deny it and lament the loss. Its all a personal mindset".

I see this statement as a universal truth, whether in this forum or elsewhere in the world. Any comments?

[Chewchy]

Before I answer, could you tell me what the "benefits" would be if I were to embrace Islam? Please don't hold back.

[Haik Monsieur]

[orangupahan]

[FreePower]

[Haik Monsieur]

[orangupahan]

That's exactly my point. If you guys notice the second part of the statement
"Deny it and lament the loss",
you'll notice that this is the situation you guys are currently in, lamenting the loss of peace in your heart as a result of denying God.

IMHO, it is impossible to have a peaceful heart without belief in Almighty God.


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[Haik Monsieur]

[manfred]

[DSingh]

[ixolite]

[orangupahan]

Terima kasih manfred, saya dari Malaysia.

I like you already, my brother, because you have the attitude of our father Abraham; curious and courageous.

To better help us understand the situation you described, it is essential to acknowledge the existence of the unseen that influence our daily lives all the time, that is God, Angels and Satans. God is all Good, Satan is all bad. We can never see them, but they exist in the realm of our thoughts. All good thoughts is inspired by God, all bad thoughts is inspired by Satan. That's why we notice many times in our daily life, the existence of thoughts that we're very sure not ours (because it is not ours). When people have this condition, the medical world immediately declares the person as paranoid schizophrenic (I've been diagnosed as such ).

Allah is All-Just and Most Merciful. His Just will ensure that a person accepting His Guidance WILL BE SAVED. But the responsibility to accept that guidance relies solely on our own judgement. Accepting it means accepting as truth all things that is already proven as truth while at the same time having faith in God of things we not yet have proven to be true (end of days, heaven, hell and all those revealed to us from the prophets).

My point is, do not rely on what you see the image of Islam you see today as a source of your judgement because there's no human that's safe from the evil inspiration of Satan. Thus, NEVER rely your judgement on other person's conviction (religious leaders, cults, extremist groups) unless the person is a prophet revealed in Al-Quran (Muhammad p.b.u.h, Jesus, David, Moses, Abraham etc). The BEST and MOST RELIABLE source about Islam is AL-QURAN. Every word, every sentence in there is TRUTH. This is a proof of God's Mercy on us all. At last, we have this revelation that is the exact Word of God, untainted, unchangeable until the End of Days.

A man will suffer even during his lifetime here on earth if he rejects guidance. He will endure life here on earth as if IT IS HELL. So, the answer for your question is yes, God will condemn a man to hell those who rejects guidance. As a proof of His Mercy, He lets us all taste the suffering of hellfire even here on earth. The suffering will only cease when we have absolute faith in God. Consider these verses:

"Then did Satan make them slip from the (Garden), and get them out of the state (of felicity) in which they had been. We said: "Get ye down, all (ye people), with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling place and your means of livelihood - for a time."

Then learnt Adam from his Lord Words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.

We said: "Get ye down all from here; and if, as is sure, there comes to you guidance from Me, whosoever follows My guidance, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

But those who reject Faith and belie Our Signs, They shall be Companions of the Fire; They shall abide therein."
Al-Baqarah 2:36-39

IMHO, its best to digest knowledge gradually, so I will answer DSingh in my next post, insyaAllah

[Dominus]

You've made a lot of suppositions there, orangupahan. None of us is going to believe you when you say things like, "Every word, every sentence in there is TRUTH. This is a proof of God's Mercy on us all. At last, we have this revelation that is the exact Word of God, untainted, unchangeable until the End of Days. "

You should try to develop some perspective and balance in your thinking. You are so brainwashed, it's embarrassing.

FYI - every ultra religious person is also convinced that he is 'blessed' by his particular god(s) and thus feel 'special' and at peace with himself/herself. It is not only Islam that does this - open your eyes onto the world. Muslims are such an insular and ignorant lot.

[orangupahan]

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I don't mean disrespect, but doesn't it makes you one of those from the second part of the statement, Dominus?

The loss of not believing is a personal loss. God's justice ensures that I will not be questioned "Why Dominus rejects guidance when it has been made clear to him?". Its a personal responsibility. I do believe however that the question would be asked to you in the Day of Judgement.

It's clear that you're lamenting the loss of peace within yourself when you look down upon others to make yourself feel good
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[FreePower]