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Sorry if this has aleady been posted but I find this TV onslaught on Islam in front of Muslim men made speechless to be quite riveting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wPglHZQf-0
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MsWesterner
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hi bob....just in case you wonder about the lack of response in this thread, yes, this has been posted and discussed several times on this forum
and yes.....it's amazing isnt it, and whats more, how the (superior favoured) males reacted to a woman who is not "deficient or inferior" |
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This is currently ranked the the 1st most discussed video All Time on YouTube! 
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EasyVision
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I don't fully agree with all the women had said, but I must state that the man did not refute much, their was no "owange" at all from what I heard. |
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I may be naive but what's "PWNED" ?
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IntellectualWarfare12
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| chingachgook wrote: |
I may be naive but what's "PWNED" ? |
It means to defeat someone in a debate.
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Yeezeevee wrote: people are NOT GOING TO BELIEVE in such silly stories murder of Sumayah, the torture of Bilal, story of Abu Jahl bayoneting this old lady Sumayah.. stories such as this
FFI Hypocrisy........ |
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IntellectualWarfare12
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I don't fully agree with all the women had said, but I must state that the man did not refute much, their was no "owange" at all from what I heard. |
The man disproved all of the garbage Wafa Sultan said. He defeated her beyond recognition in this debate, any neutral person would agree with this
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Yeezeevee wrote: people are NOT GOING TO BELIEVE in such silly stories murder of Sumayah, the torture of Bilal, story of Abu Jahl bayoneting this old lady Sumayah.. stories such as this
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Apostate_111
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| IntellectualWarfare12 wrote: |
| EasyVision wrote: |
I don't fully agree with all the women had said, but I must state that the man did not refute much, their was no "owange" at all from what I heard. |
The man disproved all of the garbage Wafa Sultan said. He defeated her beyond recognition in this debate, any neutral person would agree with this |
The man utter nothing but garbage. He refuted nothing. |
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Talib9
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:42 am Post subject: rebuttal was made to wafa sultan |
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ok this is a famous al jazeera interview -debate and im not choosin sides here . this vid has been emailed over and over , i think wafa sultan said some good things that needed said about islam and i think she is very strong, smart and intelligent woman but if you were able to watch the complete program Ibrahim al Khouli, a prof at al azhar uni made some fine arguments too..
wafa sultan made some very strong points, and very good ones, with sources from qur'an and ahadeeth, but in my opinion was a little one sided and overly simple
al khouli had some great points in his rebuttal, and showed the complexity of the issue that confront muslims .. but in my opinion strayed away from the argument a bit when he began to talk more of politics
im just saying its really worth seeing the whole program if you still can somehow, and can understand the arabi? |
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IntellectualWarfare12
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: Re: rebuttal was made to wafa sultan |
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| Talib9 wrote: |
ok this is a famous al jazeera interview -debate and im not choosin sides here . this vid has been emailed over and over , i think wafa sultan said some good things that needed said about islam and i think she is very strong, smart and intelligent woman but if you were able to watch the complete program Ibrahim al Khouli, a prof at al azhar uni made some fine arguments too..
wafa sultan made some very strong points, and very good ones, with sources from qur'an and ahadeeth, but in my opinion was a little one sided and overly simple
al khouli had some great points in his rebuttal, and showed the complexity of the issue that confront muslims .. but in my opinion strayed away from the argument a bit when he began to talk more of politics
im just saying its really worth seeing the whole program if you still can somehow, and can understand the arabi? |
you can read the transcript of the entire debate in English, on the internet
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Yeezeevee wrote: people are NOT GOING TO BELIEVE in such silly stories murder of Sumayah, the torture of Bilal, story of Abu Jahl bayoneting this old lady Sumayah.. stories such as this
FFI Hypocrisy........ |
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notsointellectual.....and WHY would it be that muslims (showing their true muslim male colours) HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM when an adult women, an ex muslim herself, speaks truths and facts.....so enraged they are that they want her DEAD
we see exactly the same behaviours come to the fore with other brave women, and muslim women whom speak out about the obscenities, oppression and huge inequality inflicted on muslim females worldwide - but rather than acknowledge the facts, the muslim male would prefer that nothing change and that these strong women BE SILENCED
to me it shows their discomfort and anger at knowing quite how deceived they have been when their so called religion and vile little imams actually "indoctrinate" the comical deceit that any female is "intellectually inferior" to even the most ignorant muslim male lol - it makes them squirm with shame knowing how they swallow the deceit, when these same muslim males know many very bright and intellectual women, and also many very dumb muslim males !!!
she does not get either refuted or owned notsointellectual......and if she was just a nothing spouting drivel, then surely the muslim world would simply ignore her....and do they???? the answer speaks for it's self. |
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IntellectualWarfare12
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notsointellectual.....and WHY would it be that muslims (showing their true muslim male colours) HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM when an adult women, an ex muslim herself, speaks truths and facts.....so enraged they are that they want her DEAD
we see exactly the same behaviours come to the fore with other brave women, and muslim women whom speak out about the obscenities, oppression and huge inequality inflicted on muslim females worldwide - but rather than acknowledge the facts, the muslim male would prefer that nothing change and that these strong women BE SILENCED
to me it shows their discomfort and anger at knowing quite how deceived they have been when their so called religion and vile little imams actually "indoctrinate" the comical deceit that any female is "intellectually inferior" to even the most ignorant muslim male lol - it makes them squirm with shame knowing how they swallow the deceit, when these same muslim males know many very bright and intellectual women, and also many very dumb muslim males !!!
she does not get either refuted or owned notsointellectual......and if she was just a nothing spouting drivel, then surely the muslim world would simply ignore her....and do they???? the answer speaks for it's self. |
What? She was NEVER a Muslim!Everyone knows that. She was an ALAWI, that is a heretical sect and they are NOT Muslims! She never was a Muslim at all.
She was owned beyond recognition
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Yeezeevee wrote: people are NOT GOING TO BELIEVE in such silly stories murder of Sumayah, the torture of Bilal, story of Abu Jahl bayoneting this old lady Sumayah.. stories such as this
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Realist
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| MsWesterner wrote: |
notsointellectual.....and WHY would it be that muslims (showing their true muslim male colours) HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM when an adult women, an ex muslim herself, speaks truths and facts.....so enraged they are that they want her DEAD
we see exactly the same behaviours come to the fore with other brave women, and muslim women whom speak out about the obscenities, oppression and huge inequality inflicted on muslim females worldwide - but rather than acknowledge the facts, the muslim male would prefer that nothing change and that these strong women BE SILENCED
to me it shows their discomfort and anger at knowing quite how deceived they have been when their so called religion and vile little imams actually "indoctrinate" the comical deceit that any female is "intellectually inferior" to even the most ignorant muslim male lol - it makes them squirm with shame knowing how they swallow the deceit, when these same muslim males know many very bright and intellectual women, and also many very dumb muslim males !!!
she does not get either refuted or owned notsointellectual......and if she was just a nothing spouting drivel, then surely the muslim world would simply ignore her....and do they???? the answer speaks for it's self. |
What? She was NEVER a Muslim!Everyone knows that. She was an ALAWI, that is a heretical sect and they are NOT Muslims! She never was a Muslim at all.
She was owned beyond recognition |
Ahh the old this SECT is not Mohammedan that SECT is not Mohammedan argument Sunnis are NOT Mohammedans Shia are NOT Mohammedans. The ONLY time they are ALL Mohammedans is when the HYPOCRITES want to BRAG about how many Mohammedans there are. HYPOCRISY thy name is Islam
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