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diotima64
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Dear Alkaliel,
you are completely right, and even in accordance with christian teaching.
IOnly God judges us, not we. There is good in most religions, though not all (  )...and as a christian, of course I believe the fullness of truth and good is only in christianity - but that does not mean being a christian per se will get me to heaven, or that a non-christian cannot get to heaven. He/She might even be more of a real christian in God´s eye than I. |
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Alkaliel
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Dear Alkaliel,
you are completely right, and even in accordance with christian teaching.
IOnly God judges us, not we. There is good in most religions, though not all ( )...and as a christian, of course I believe the fullness of truth and good is only in christianity - but that does not mean being a christian per se will get me to heaven, or that a non-christian cannot get to heaven. He/She might even be more of a real christian in God´s eye than I. |
Dear diotima64,
I am so grateful for the good news you brought (I won't go to Hell for not being a practising Christian!!!!). Hurrah! Where is my Russian vodka to get drunk and mark this event???? 
In fact the priest who bamptised me said that many people nowadays forget about God. They believe in their religions not in God. Their religion is more important than God, they are trying to perform all the rituals in their religion but while doing that, they forget about God. |
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diotima64
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| In fact the priest who bamptised me said that many people nowadays forget about God. They believe in their religions not in God. Their religion is more important than God, they are trying to perform all the rituals in their religion but while doing that, they forget about God. |
Amen to that! Being catholic, I love the rituals and traditions of my church, but they are only a means to an end, not the end in itself and we should never forget that. To assume anyone of us is "saved" is presumptuous...almost blasphemous to me, because that is for God alone to decide...I can only do my best, which in and of itself will not be enough, anyway (but, as I believe in a loving God, that does not drive me to despair, either). |
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Shaima
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: To Alkaliel |
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Privet Alkaliel! Please write to me on my email shaimaa@rambler.ru. I have a question for you and I also think that I need your help.
Thank you. |
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yeezevee
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| Alkaliel: In fact the priest who bamptised me said that many people nowadays forget about God. They believe in their religions not in God. Their religion is more important than God, they are trying to perform all the rituals in their religion but while doing that, they forget about God. |
that is such a profound statement dear ]Alkaliel., I wonder whether the priest understands whta actually the "GOD" means??
with best regards
yeezevee |
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shafqat
Joined: 27 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: Let the God...just a personal perception |
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dear Alkaliel
i,m agreed upon most of your arguements, especiaaly about muslims (as i,m facing same bitter experience here in Pakistan, though i have not yet announced my Apostasy yet). You are lucky enough you are living in a free society know. Its my personal observation that you may contribute more if you keep yourself to just undressing of "true Islam". If you chose to profess some other sort of religiousity, it can be resulted as a distraction for them, who wants to know about the cult of Islam. I,m also not a 100 % athiest. I belive Islam is most dangerous among all faiths but yet any kind of religiousity can complement Islam. |
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IntellectualWarfare12
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too bad she left the great religion of islam.
i feel bad for her orphaned kids..
well that is life. we were created to die. Allah created us and Allah will take our lives.
Alkaliel allowed herself to be deceived by the Anti Islamic people
What a shame
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FFI Hypocrisy........ |
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diotima64
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too bad she left the great religion of islam.
i feel bad for her orphaned kids..
well that is life. we were created to die. Allah created us and Allah will take our lives.
Alkaliel allowed herself to be deceived by the Anti Islamic people
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she wasn´t deceived at all - in fact, she was one of the brightest and LEAST deceicable people I ever met. AND she KNEW what islam was - that´s why she left it.
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yeezevee
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| IntellectualWarfare12 wrote: i feel bad for her orphaned kids.. |
don't worry, if she had kids, her kids will be better taken care of outside of Islam than inside that Islamic box..
yeezevee |
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IntellectualWarfare12
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too bad she left the great religion of islam.
i feel bad for her orphaned kids..
well that is life. we were created to die. Allah created us and Allah will take our lives.
Alkaliel allowed herself to be deceived by the Anti Islamic people
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she wasn´t deceived at all - in fact, she was one of the brightest and LEAST deceicable people I ever met. AND she KNEW what islam was - that´s why she left it. |
She died at the age of 26. 26??!!!!
Do you realize how young she was? She should have used her intelligence in the service of Islam, not for defaming and writing articles against this Great and Noble Faith.
I read her testimony and she stated that her grandfather left Islam just moments before his death. Now what was the point of that?
He was close to the finish line, and he gave it all up by leaving Islam. Alkaliel should have studied Islam more extensively.
Islam would have fit her personality, she seemed like an okay person...
Too bad I never met her, I feel bad for her kids. I would adopt her children if necessary and raise them as devout and pious Muslims.
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Yeezeevee wrote: people are NOT GOING TO BELIEVE in such silly stories murder of Sumayah, the torture of Bilal, story of Abu Jahl bayoneting this old lady Sumayah.. stories such as this
FFI Hypocrisy........ |
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infidel_01
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quote="IntellectualWarfare12"]
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too bad she left the great religion of islam.
i feel bad for her orphaned kids..
well that is life. we were created to die. Allah created us and Allah will take our lives.
Alkaliel allowed herself to be deceived by the Anti Islamic people
What a shame |
she wasn´t deceived at all - in fact, she was one of the brightest and LEAST deceicable people I ever met. AND she KNEW what islam was - that´s why she left it. |
She died at the age of 26. 26??!!!!
Do you realize how young she was? She should have used her intelligence in the service of Islam, not for defaming and writing articles against this Great and Noble Faith.
I read her testimony and she stated that her grandfather left Islam just moments before his death. Now what was the point of that?
He was close to the finish line, and he gave it all up by leaving Islam. Alkaliel should have studied Islam more extensively.
Islam would have fit her personality, she seemed like an okay person...
Too bad I never met her, I feel bad for her kids. I would adopt her children if necessary and raise them as devout and pious Muslims. |
like adoption is allowed in islam?
Just to remind you that pedo MO dismissed the noble act of adoption, just to satisfy his lust for his adopted son's wife. 
Islam and its followers are too sick 
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It is NOT IMMORAL for muslims to have non-muslims as slaves and sex slaves; But it is definitely IMMORAL for non-Muslims to own Muslim slaves -- Allah Diya, MTD & NAV;
WHY? None could answer
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diotima64
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: |
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too bad she left the great religion of islam.
i feel bad for her orphaned kids..
well that is life. we were created to die. Allah created us and Allah will take our lives.
Alkaliel allowed herself to be deceived by the Anti Islamic people
What a shame |
she wasn´t deceived at all - in fact, she was one of the brightest and LEAST deceicable people I ever met. AND she KNEW what islam was - that´s why she left it. |
She died at the age of 26. 26??!!!!
Do you realize how young she was? She should have used her intelligence in the service of Islam, not for defaming and writing articles against this Great and Noble Faith.
I read her testimony and she stated that her grandfather left Islam just moments before his death. Now what was the point of that?
He was close to the finish line, and he gave it all up by leaving Islam. Alkaliel should have studied Islam more extensively.
Islam would have fit her personality, she seemed like an okay person...
Too bad I never met her, I feel bad for her kids. I would adopt her children if necessary and raise them as devout and pious Muslims. |
Her personality did NOT fit islam, since she didn´t want to turn into a brainless moron cum rent-me-uterus, as she would be obliged to, as a good muslimah. She was INTELLIGENT, and had courage and backbone - like her grandfather, who would rather die, than live a LIE!
And as for her children - they are none of your concern. Am sure, she would chose NOT to have them anywhere close to any moslem bringing them up. They are being brought up by her sister, who is FAR from being a pious moslemah, and respects her sister´s wishes about the upbringing of the girls.
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Always_Faithful
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| too bad she left the great religion of islam. |
You mean the same great religion that commands her to an eternity of incredible torture simply for not believing in Allah?
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luke5764
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Many Muslims in Russia never had a good foundation in Islam. The evil atheistic communism was against all religion.
In my 8 years as a Muslim convert, I've seen that people who leave Islam usually had very little knowledge about Islam and they did not practise the faith.
You will never find an ex-Muslim who had strong faith and excellent knowledge about Islam before apostating.
Sorry to hear of your apostasy but the good news for Muslims is that Islam is the feastest growing religion on earth.
May Allah guide you.
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infidel_01
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Many Muslims in Russia never had a good foundation in Islam. The evil atheistic communism was against all religion.
In my 8 years as a Muslim convert, I've seen that people who leave Islam usually had very little knowledge about Islam and they did not practise the faith.
You will never find an ex-Muslim who had strong faith and excellent knowledge about Islam before apostating.
Sorry to hear of your apostasy but the good news for Muslims is that Islam is the feastest growing religion on earth.
May Allah guide you. |
Sorry, you are wrong. We have many of them here on FFI itself.
Please provide supporting facts/data for your claim.
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It is NOT IMMORAL for muslims to have non-muslims as slaves and sex slaves; But it is definitely IMMORAL for non-Muslims to own Muslim slaves -- Allah Diya, MTD & NAV;
WHY? None could answer |
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