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infidel_01
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samir wrote:
if you are sunshine I want you to go and edit this
Good point. Allah writes in obscure terms that are specific only to Arab story telling. What a load. |
What if he does that, will you apologies to him for your false accusation that he is a liar  or you will go into next accusation and hence never ending mary-go-round arguments. Please make it clear to us.
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truthseeker2
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I am not going to go through all the threads looking for that quote about you being a woman samir, if you want to see it you look for it, though I know it is there & I am sure that you do as well as it was on a thread that you where debating on. So it would have caused you the same kind of outrage as this reference to it has. So it is not me who is the liar as you well know, it is you who is being a bare faced liar. But that does not matter to muslims does it, as you are told in your book of errors that it is ok to lie to kafirs. So you think that you will not have to answer to that remark, though as the rest of us know. Allah does not exist, mohammad is a con man, liar, thief, rapist, child molester, slaver & all the rest that goes with him.
But we go to the one thing again that you keep refusing to answer on my post & I quote again: you did not mention this part of my post to you & other muslims, But that is obvious as well, as having to read it must hurt as again it shows you all up by the way you all act, try reading it again & abiding by it. Also to add to it, try being straight as we are with you, we do not twist things, words, statements. We give them as they are spoken & stated, we do not twist them at all, we are open & straight with you so as I said before have the courtesy to be so with us & just for you again here is what was posted the last time. Seeing that you chose to ignore it: stop swearing, insulting & calling those who are trying to help you. We have courtesy for you, please have the decency to treat us as we treat you, with some kind of respect.
You keep overlooking this part of the post & why ? is that then. As if we do not know already, you do not have any respect for anyone. Lets face it muslims do not have any respect for other muslims, we see that even today as the bomb in Pakistan goes off killing other muslims. Each & every day we see muslim killing muslim & why, because one muslim see a verse in a different way to the other muslim. That is what shows you all up just for what you all are, very sad & sick minded people & it makes me think, are you worth being dealt with, with courtesy & decency at all. I will leave that to be worked out by the rest of you on here.
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Islamis_Allah_Tashit
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duplicate. See post below
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Islamis_Allah_Tashit
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Islamis_Allah_Tashit wrote : Oh really??? Then where was MY lie??
what the fucck is this ???
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| Then, you tell me about illifat (which I already knew about) to explain to me why it is NOT |
you knew it  . Supid liar . not even Arab do not know this unless they are expert in Arabic language and studied balagha. How can an ignorant of Arabic knows it . |
I DID already know about Illtifat. Menj, the guy who owns the Bismika Allahuma forum told me about it two years ago while we were debating. So after he mentioned it, I went to check out his claim and researched it. This is evident by the fact that I gave you the precisely correct meaning for it, obviously to your surprise, while you were arrogantly chuckling and assuming that I could never be aware of it. And by the way, I think it's a stupid idea to switch from first person to third person for no reason at all except to hold the reader's attention, but that's just my personal opinion.
So once again, I'm afraid YOU are the liar. Why are you so foolish? It can't be a genetic thing, so it must be an Islamic thing.
And, it also means that we get right back to the issue of how your answer fell apart, which is why you had to resort to name calling and accusations of lies. Nobody buys into these diversions. Maybe some ignorant people in some sort of Islamic village that you met might be stupid enough to buy into diversions like this, and maybe that''s why you think you can use it here. But nobody here is going to buy it, so don't even bother attempting it. We all recognize it. Normal, stupid little Muslim tricks and diversions simply don't work here, so go back to the guy who taught you this and told you it would work, and ask for your money back. |
I told you go and lie and some dumb American. The fact of the matter you wrote iltifat withouit T is proof that you do not know the word . |
No, that was a simple spelling error. I told you exactly what it means, and I told you who told me and I told you when I was told this (2 years ago) and I told you the forum, and the meaning I gave was perfectly correct. Just because you are a Muslim, and therefore are completely incapable of acknowledging that you are wrong about something, doesn't mean we are supposed to have patience with your stubbornness that causes your ridiculous diversion attempts.
And we all know that you will not let go of your lie accusation against me because you can't answer what I actually said and the REAL points being discussed. That's the REAL reason. Therefore, you divert and make lying the issue, when you didn't even answer the true point I brought up and acknowledge that you clearly did a logical circle. Maybe your friends are childish to not see your diversions, but we are not. It simply doesn't work, so why bother?
Now, that said, let's remind everybody of the issue that you hoped to divert from with your accusation of a lie
I say the Bible is written in third person narrative rather than first person form like the Quran. The Bible is known to have an author relating what happened between God and man. The Bible has to quote God because it is not in first person form. The Quran, however, IS in first person form. You say that the Quran is like the Bible because there are third person sections in the Quran as well. So then I say if those sections are in third person, then yes, it would be like the Bible and Muhammad would become the author. Then you bring up illtifat and you brought it up to prevent Muhammad as being seen as the author of those third person sections you quoted. That's fine. But illtifat isn't truly third person, it's a stupid little poetic trick to keep the listener's attention and therefore is actually, really talking in first person. The Bible practices no illtifat. Therefore the examples you gave of the Bible and the Quran being in third person do not actually match up. One is indeed in third person, and the other is merely pretending to be so through illtifat.
This is the terrible error you made that you don't want anybody to see, so hence, you switch the entire issue to the word illtifat. It's a shame that people here aren't as stupid as apparently you are accustomed to people being, or else you wouldn't even attempt these stupid little diversions.
But here's the real question. How does it make you feel to have to resort to the things you resort to? It would make me feel a little ashamed. But you are a Muslim and therefore, you have no shame. The truth doesn't matter. All that matters is that the Muslim is seen as right and Islam is seen as right, even if you have to divert, cheat, be less than honest.,.....Muslims don't care. It's almost like they say to themselves "yeah, I know this isn't exactly correct, but I need to say this to win the conversation, and then afterwards, I'll sort out what is REALLY true". Hey. lie, cheat, divert, accuse, .....it doesn't matter as long as Islam is seen as correct. I'm sure Allah forgives you for any deception you attempt as long as it's in the cause of Allah. |
there is no way that you can prove to me that you knew that 2 year ago . If you can then I am waiting for this proof . I will not believe it especially you wrote iltifat wrong and still do so even after I point your error this time you wrote it with 2 L . True you gave me the defintion , but this after I sent you the link where anybody could copy it from the link . |
That was very foolish of you. Here's the link
http://forum.bismikaallahuma.org/index.php/topic,8990.0.html
I am the user Sunshine on this forum, and menj is the owner of the forum. Read every post on that page, except for the last one, where some typically incoherent Muslim posted a completely unrelated diatribe. Menj told me about it and I looked it up and gained the correct understanding of it. Harvey confirmed the understanding and then raised a very good question as to why Allah would need to use iltifat and suggested that it points to an author besides Allah. I still think it's a load and an excuse for Muhammad probably getting whipped up into a frenzy and forgetting he's not supposed to be speaking these parts, Allah is. The only thing I was incorrect about, is that apparently it was only a year ago. For some reason, I thought it was longer ago. Oh well.
Tssssst, sizzle sizzle. You shouldn't a oughtta' done that. You ask for proof, you got it. But we all know that you are a Muslim, and therefore not capable of even accepting proof if it doesn't say what you want. We all know this. We're used to it. You're not the first, stereotypically brick headed Muslim that's come on here. In fact, I'd say 50% or more are like you. That's the disturbing part |
if you are sunshine I want you to go and edit this
Good point. Allah writes in obscure terms that are specific only to Arab story telling. What a load. |
Okay, my stubborn little Muslim. I'll splice your name in there. How does that sound? Go check it out sweet heart
http://forum.bismikaallahuma.org/index.php/topic,8990.msg98844.html#msg98844
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Islamis_Allah_Tashit
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samir wrote:
if you are sunshine I want you to go and edit this
Good point. Allah writes in obscure terms that are specific only to Arab story telling. What a load. |
What if he does that, will you apologies to him for your false accusation that he is a liar or you will go into next accusation and hence never ending merry-go-round arguments. Please make it clear to us. |
We all know the fact, at this point, that this will never happen because Muslims have no integrity and are incapable of ever admitting error. In fact, they do they same thing with their book also, so what should be the surprise?
http://forum.bismikaallahuma.org/index.php/topic,8990.msg98844.html#msg98844
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infidel_01
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samir wrote:
if you are sunshine I want you to go and edit this
Good point. Allah writes in obscure terms that are specific only to Arab story telling. What a load. |
What if he does that, will you apologies to him for your false accusation that he is a liar or you will go into next accusation and hence never ending merry-go-round arguments. Please make it clear to us. |
We all know the fact, at this point, that this will never happen because Muslims have no integrity and are incapable of ever admitting error. In fact, they do they same thing with their book also, so what should be the surprise?
http://forum.bismikaallahuma.org/index.php/topic,8990.msg98844.html#msg98844 |
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Good point. Allah writes in obscure terms that are specific only to Arab story telling. What a load.
This post has been edited to tell another Muslim from another forum how stupid they are. How's that Samir?
Get it? Get it? Get it? So who's the liar now? YOU ARE !!! (((BWAHAHAHAHA))
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Great one IAT. NOw get ready for another baseless accusation or to be called a JOOOO.
Hey man, you are missing all the fun at this thread. PLease join in there.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56530&start=75
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