You don't believe God?....so what?

[What?]

This is what I don't understand, If the ppl who said they don't believe in God, why can't they just move on with their Godless world and enjoy life......

why do they waste so much energy to proof there is no God?........Oh I get it, you are the smart one, you read alot of books and you question things unlike those dumb ppl who believe in God.......

well, thats good for you but the truth is, most of you live in a peacfull country with your jobs, schools and your family/friends, so you can do whatever you like, believe him or don't believe him it's all up to you cause you have the freedom to do that so.

but What about the poor ppl who believe in God and by believing him, it helps them to go through the difficulty in life......and difficulty I mean the single mother who just lost her husband and doesn't know how she's going to feed her 5 kids tomorrow.......and whats the only thing that gives her some peace of mind?....no it is not some losers who actually think they are changing the world from faithfreedom....but it is actually this so called mr God.

so what about the rest of the world?.........can you help them?........can you get up from your comfort living room/your computer and give some peace of mind to sick and poor ppl?........what about been without a internet porn for a day.....can you survive from that?

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Dear What?,

please do not write in red, as this is my colour.

Best Wishes,
M.

[DSingh]

I don't think its possible to prove, or disprove god. Many religions and people have their own perceptions of what a god is, some think its some bearded looking man prodding on the "kill" button, while others think of the whole universe as being the god/creation. It does get rather annoying when people tend to show off excessively whether they beleive in a god or not

[Ariel]

Those poor people who have faith in God and who do not know where to get the money for food, should have more faith in Allah dear What ?
Should it not be not Allah who must take care of his slaves?
Have you no faith in Allah ? He shall provide for all the things you need in life.


You are silly What? Do you really think people who do not believe in Allah never help other people and watch porn all day ? I never have watched porn. I hate porn, but as you mention porn, you might like it very much , otherwise you would not think of it.
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Tabari IX:69
“Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us.”

[chiplee]

It's important to note that even if being godless resulted in endless days of endless porn watching and drug use and alcoholism and moral emptiness, that would not in ANY way lend ANY validity Whatsoever to any religion or God concept.

in fact, if people without God happen to be less upstanding citizens that should be considered evidence for the fact that it is from within that humans are drawn to some idea of a God in their lives.

If I give up my atheism for religion on my death bed and accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior, it certainly won't mean that God is real. It will be very telling but not of that. It will be telling of the fact that religion stems from the human condition, the violent clash between survival instinct and self awareness in one being. Two forces that are often utterly at odds with one another but forced to work together toward a common "survival" goal in life.

Those without god don't drop it because they can't. Imagine living in a world where you know everything you know now about history and science. But imagine that everyone you know believes in Zeus, and people in other parts of the world believe in other mythological gods and think the people you know are wrong to believe in Zeus. Your friends and family and coworkers adore him though, and worship him and pray to him and they believe that he answers their prayers.

Because of your modern education, you know they're praying to a figment of their imaginations because people all over the world pray to different Gods of all different sizes shapes and colors and they all think that their God is answering their prayers, or at least listening when they pray. And to you, that fact alone should be enough to make any rational human being stop with the praying nonsense, but no matter what you say, they won't believe you. They just keep on praying to Zeus. They think he has his eye on them and they pray to him in your name and for your safety. They waste so much f'ing time praying to him that they don't notice that there's suffering all around them.

And here's the best part. When they do notice the suffering, they blame the it on the suffers' inability to fully believe in Zeus and accept him into their heart. They are smug about the confidence with which they believe in this ancient mythological god and you can't believe anyone still believes this nonsense. How do you function? How do you look people in the eye? How do you take them seriously?

That's my life, and the life of any thoughtful, moral, atheist I think. If a modern group of people actually felt this way about zeus they'd be considered a crazy cult. In fact such cults exist all over the place, worshiping their own idea of God. But Zeus was once revered just as the Christian God is now. Things can change, but so long as people think "you will NOT change any beliefs so why bother?" then their's will be a self fulfilling prophecy, and nothing will EVER change about what people are willing to believe.

It's possible, in the U.S. at least, to lead a full life, earn a PhD and be a normal member of society without ever having had your faith questioned, because it is "taboo" to talk about it. How can it be that the one thing we use to define our idea of moral guidance on earth, and spiritual savior after life on earth is not to be talked about unless we agree with each other about it?

I will not go quietly from this issue, and I will challenge the faith of those around me. I will admit to them that what I offer is painful by comparison to their mental and emotional self delusion. I'll be honest, and I'll be gentle, but I will tell the truth at every turn and eventually, someone will hear. I fight religion because it is immoral not to. I'm not trying to change anyone, but I will not be one of the ones who tip toes around religion. I have more respect for myself and for humanity than to do that. In fact it is out of respect that I attack other people's beliefs. To humor a man when you know what he believes is nonsense is how we treat the insane for fear of worsening their "condition". I will treat the insane that way, but so long as a man holds himself out to be a normal member of society, I will respect him enough to give him my honest opinion of that which he has chosen to believe.
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"[The Bible] has noble poetry in it... and some good morals and a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of a thousand lies." Mark Twain

"I still say a church steeple with a lightening rod on top shows a lack of confidence."
-- Doug McLeod

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[Don1]

As long as people believe a god wrote this (see below), then I have responsibility to show that no god exist.

It is said no one can prove that a god does not exist---that is a big fat lie, based on denial of the evidence. A god cannot be in contraction with his own words.

It s said a god is all-powerful, such is foolishness as the word ALL is inclusive of the entirety, even that of utter foolishness. As such the ALL god cannot exist. An all-powerful god can make a rock too heavy for him to lift. The contradiction is obvious and clear—the all-powerful god is nonsense.

If you remove the word all , and place in “a less than all powerful god”—then you have to show how much is “less than” and the arguments for a god falls on it face as YOU have NO idea what is “less than” other than something less than the entirety—so what is the entirety? YOU have no idea. Lacking even the most remote definition of a god—the gods fall flat into nonsense and utter stupidity.

Normally I do not care what you believe, however when a person’s beliefs in a god spills over in the most obscene criminal acts known to man, and the deviation of human rights--- that is a different story, and certainly a different attitude I should have.


The gods are not shown to exist, demonstrated many times over. To say other wise is stupidity and being in denial. If NO god then NO holy words from a god, what are left are crazy men puking out hate and stupidity to all.

Here is what 1.2 billion muslims have to say is god’s words—this is nothing more than a declaration of war to the free world. It is not important what I believe---what is important is what others believe and wish death and murder in the name of a god.

People read this crap below and think a god of auhtority said it--- what BS. We fight against evil people not gods.


Quran Surah 2: The Cow
1. Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 6
2. Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 10
3. A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 24
4. Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 39, 90
5. For disbelievers is a painful doom. 104
6. For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 114
7. Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 126
8. The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 162
9. They will not emerge from the Fire. 167
10. Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 174
11. How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 175
12. Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. 191
13. War is ordained by Allah. 216
14. Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 217
15. Disbelievers worship false gods. They will burn forever in the Fire. 257
16. Allah does not guide disbelievers. 264
17. "Give us victory over the disbelieving folk." 286

Quran Surah 3: The Family Of 'Imran
1. Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 4
2. Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 10
3. Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 12
4. Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 21
5. Theirs will be a painful doom. 77
6. All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 85
7. Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 91
8. Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 105-6
9. Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 116
10. The Fire is prepared for disbelievers. 131
11. We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 151
12. Theirs will be an awful doom. 176
13. Disbelievers do not harm Allah, but will have a painful doom. 177
14. Disbelievers will have a shamful doom. 178
15. Disbelievers will go to Hell. 196

Quran Surah 4: Women
1. Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will be burnt with fire and suffer a painful doom. 14
2. For the disbelievers, We have prepared a painful doom. 18
3. For disbelievers, We prepare a shameful doom. 37
4. Hell is sufficient for their burning. 55
5. Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. 56
6. Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 74
7. Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 76
8. Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 89
9. If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 91 ( Offering peace in Islam means surrendering. All 67 out of 68 wars of Muhammad were offensive. They are called qazwah (raid, ambush, sudden attack). That is how Muhammad waged his wars. He raided, massacred and looted civilians with no warning. The one defensive war, 'ditch' was not fought. That is why the Islamic terrorism 'jihad' will continue until the West "offers peace". This was made clear by Bin Laden.)
10. Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 115
11. Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe and disbelieve again will never be forgiven by Allah. 137
12. For the hypocrites there will be a painful doom. 138
13. Allah will gather hypocrites and disbelievers into hell. 140
14. The hypocrites will be in the lowest part of hell and no one will help them there. 145
15. You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don't are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 150-151
16. For the disbelievers, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 161
17. God will guide disbelievers down a road that leads to everlasting hell. 168-169

Quran Surah 5: The Table Spread
1. Those who deny Islam will be losers in the Hereafter. 5
2. Disbelievers are the rightful owners of Hell. 10
3. Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 33 (Anyone who resist Islam is deemed to be making war with Allah)
4. Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 36
5. Disbelievers will want to come out of the Fire, but will not. Their will be a lasting doom. 37
6. Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, and tooth for tooth. Non-muslims are wrong doers. 45
7. Christians will be burned in the Fire. 72
8. Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 73
9. Disbelievers will be owners of hell-fire. 86

[chiplee]

[idiots_hater]

Poor people got little hope in their tiny world and Ahtiest wanna take that away.....that's just so sad.

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[Batou]

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[FreePower]

[Jacquelina]

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