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Ram
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| What are they critical about? |
Reasons for criticism:-
Hindus believe in many gods.
Hindus should accespt Christ as their saviour.
Hindus are pagans.
Yoga is devil worship.
Shiva was devil.
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diotima64
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| The Catholic church is to blame for most of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. In fact what most people don't know about is that at the time of the crusades there were sects of Christians who were living in peace and the Pope said that anyone who killed one of them would inherit that persons piece of land. It didn't take long for the majority to be killed. In fact they go against most of the things in the Bible itself, that is why I never liked them. |
Stop spouting the usual ignorant protestant lies and go learn some real history and theology, instead of picking bits and pieces of half-digested and not even half understood historical info and scripture. |
Like most catholics you are brainwashed into anything the church tells you. Go learn some real history. |
Unlike you, I didn´t learn history from church-tracts. Come back, once you actually know, what you are talking about.
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FreePower
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| FreePower wrote: |
| The Catholic church is to blame for most of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. In fact what most people don't know about is that at the time of the crusades there were sects of Christians who were living in peace and the Pope said that anyone who killed one of them would inherit that persons piece of land. It didn't take long for the majority to be killed. In fact they go against most of the things in the Bible itself, that is why I never liked them. |
Stop spouting the usual ignorant protestant lies and go learn some real history and theology, instead of picking bits and pieces of half-digested and not even half understood historical info and scripture. |
Like most catholics you are brainwashed into anything the church tells you. Go learn some real history. |
Unlike you, I didn´t learn history from church-tracts. Come back, once you actually know, what you are talking about. |
So you are telling me you know nothing of the persecutions of the Catholic church on Protestants and other Christian denominations?
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diotima64
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| FreePower wrote: |
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| FreePower wrote: |
| The Catholic church is to blame for most of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. In fact what most people don't know about is that at the time of the crusades there were sects of Christians who were living in peace and the Pope said that anyone who killed one of them would inherit that persons piece of land. It didn't take long for the majority to be killed. In fact they go against most of the things in the Bible itself, that is why I never liked them. |
Stop spouting the usual ignorant protestant lies and go learn some real history and theology, instead of picking bits and pieces of half-digested and not even half understood historical info and scripture. |
Like most catholics you are brainwashed into anything the church tells you. Go learn some real history. |
Unlike you, I didn´t learn history from church-tracts. Come back, once you actually know, what you are talking about. |
So you are telling me you know nothing of the persecutions of the Catholic church on Protestants and other Christian denominations? |
you mean, like Elizabeth of England burning and torturing Catholics? St. Thomas More being executed for not accepting the reformation forced upon the English by horny Henry? The devastation caused by the reformation in many places? The iconoclasts? the terror in Münster on the non-anabaptists? For starters, that is?
There´s always two sides to any coin, you know.
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shoeshiner
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| FreePower wrote: |
| diotima64 wrote: |
| FreePower wrote: |
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| FreePower wrote: |
| The Catholic church is to blame for most of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. In fact what most people don't know about is that at the time of the crusades there were sects of Christians who were living in peace and the Pope said that anyone who killed one of them would inherit that persons piece of land. It didn't take long for the majority to be killed. In fact they go against most of the things in the Bible itself, that is why I never liked them. |
Stop spouting the usual ignorant protestant lies and go learn some real history and theology, instead of picking bits and pieces of half-digested and not even half understood historical info and scripture. |
Like most catholics you are brainwashed into anything the church tells you. Go learn some real history. |
Unlike you, I didn´t learn history from church-tracts. Come back, once you actually know, what you are talking about. |
So you are telling me you know nothing of the persecutions of the Catholic church on Protestants and other Christian denominations? |
you mean, like Elizabeth of England burning and torturing Catholics? St. Thomas More being executed for not accepting the reformation forced upon the English by horny Henry? The devastation caused by the reformation in many places? The iconoclasts? the terror in Münster on the non-anabaptists? For starters, that is?
There´s always two sides to any coin, you know. |
Sounds like tu quoque to me.
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diotima64
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no, it´s correcting the "poor, innocent protestants being persecuted by the terrible, terrible church" baloney.
Stop slinging around logical fallacies, and brush up on your history. Would do many around here some good.
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shoeshiner
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no, it´s correcting the "poor, innocent protestants being persecuted by the terrible, terrible church" baloney.
Stop slinging around logical fallacies, and brush up on your history. Would do many around here some good. |
I wasn't arguing about history with you. So I don't really need to learn the history of the Catholic Church, which I could care less for.
How is your tu quoque correcting anything? Is mentioning the dark side of the Protestant history going to change anything about the evil acts that the Catholic Church has done?
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FreePower
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| FreePower wrote: |
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| The Catholic church is to blame for most of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. In fact what most people don't know about is that at the time of the crusades there were sects of Christians who were living in peace and the Pope said that anyone who killed one of them would inherit that persons piece of land. It didn't take long for the majority to be killed. In fact they go against most of the things in the Bible itself, that is why I never liked them. |
Stop spouting the usual ignorant protestant lies and go learn some real history and theology, instead of picking bits and pieces of half-digested and not even half understood historical info and scripture. |
Like most catholics you are brainwashed into anything the church tells you. Go learn some real history. |
Unlike you, I didn´t learn history from church-tracts. Come back, once you actually know, what you are talking about. |
So you are telling me you know nothing of the persecutions of the Catholic church on Protestants and other Christian denominations? |
you mean, like Elizabeth of England burning and torturing Catholics? St. Thomas More being executed for not accepting the reformation forced upon the English by horny Henry? The devastation caused by the reformation in many places? The iconoclasts? the terror in Münster on the non-anabaptists? For starters, that is?
There´s always two sides to any coin, you know. |
Now you are mentioning the Anglican Church that sprouted out of Catholicism. Not only that but many but Catholics love to make idols, pray to saints, repeat meaningless prayers over and over, and above all idolize the pope. Religion is exactly what Jesus came to do away with, and to me the Catholic church has tamed his image, and transformed Jesus into a religion itself. There is a difference between being a Christian and a Christ follower.
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diotima64
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| FreePower wrote: |
| diotima64 wrote: |
| FreePower wrote: |
| diotima64 wrote: |
| FreePower wrote: |
| diotima64 wrote: |
| FreePower wrote: |
| The Catholic church is to blame for most of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. In fact what most people don't know about is that at the time of the crusades there were sects of Christians who were living in peace and the Pope said that anyone who killed one of them would inherit that persons piece of land. It didn't take long for the majority to be killed. In fact they go against most of the things in the Bible itself, that is why I never liked them. |
Stop spouting the usual ignorant protestant lies and go learn some real history and theology, instead of picking bits and pieces of half-digested and not even half understood historical info and scripture. |
Like most catholics you are brainwashed into anything the church tells you. Go learn some real history. |
Unlike you, I didn´t learn history from church-tracts. Come back, once you actually know, what you are talking about. |
So you are telling me you know nothing of the persecutions of the Catholic church on Protestants and other Christian denominations? |
you mean, like Elizabeth of England burning and torturing Catholics? St. Thomas More being executed for not accepting the reformation forced upon the English by horny Henry? The devastation caused by the reformation in many places? The iconoclasts? the terror in Münster on the non-anabaptists? For starters, that is?
There´s always two sides to any coin, you know. |
Now you are mentioning the Anglican Church that sprouted out of Catholicism. Not only that but many but Catholics love to make idols, pray to saints, repeat meaningless prayers over and over, and above all idolize the pope. Religion is exactly what Jesus came to do away with, and to me the Catholic church has tamed his image, and transformed Jesus into a religion itself. There is a difference between being a Christian and a Christ follower. |
more ignorant prot blather. you know nothing at all about the Catholic church, which is why your opinion of it is worth nothing. Shove it where the sun don´t shine, since that is where you plucked it from.
oh, and if the Anglicans are too catholic for you ... I did mention the anabapist atrocities, did I? How about Jean Calvin´s dictatorship in Geneva? John Knox in Scotland? Go do some homework.
And Shoeshiner - since Free Power didn´t bring anything of substance, what did you expect as reply?
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FreePower
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more ignorant prot blather. you know nothing at all about the Catholic church, which is why your opinion of it is worth nothing. Shove it where the sun don´t shine, since that is where you plucked it from.
oh, and if the Anglicans are too catholic for you ... I did mention the anabapist atrocities, did I? How about Jean Calvin´s dictatorship in Geneva? John Knox in Scotland? Go do some homework.
And Shoeshiner - since Free Power didn´t bring anything of substance, what did you expect as reply? |
Oh right so my ignorant blather has no consistency? I know exacly what I am talking about because I went to Catholic Schools before and I have been to masses and let me tell you how far Catholics are from the teachings of Jesus. Jesus explicitly tells people not to say meaningless prayers, and what do Catholics do? They repeat the "Our Father" and the "Holy Mary" about 15 times over and over and give a rosary to the followers to continue their meaningless babble. Jesus said do not worship idols, and Catholics pray to patron Saints for divine intervention. Confession is against the bible, because men cannot forgive sins, look at the "Our Father" and you can clearly see that when the disciples asked Jesus how to pray he asks God directly for the forgiveness of sins. The catholic church traps their followers in tradition and rituals while taking the focus off God, but religion is not God.
I can go on for a long time and talk about how far the Catholic church has gone from the teachings of Jesus. And aside from that I can talk about the Papal records and the things you do not know about, in fact very few know that in the Papal Records it states that the Pope is Christ on Earth. If you wish to have a one on one debate I am open for it.
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diotima64
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Go keep on reading Jack Chick tracts, FreePower. That´s what you like, apparently. Oh, and btw - the Pope isn´t CHRIST on earth, but His VICAR.
And no - am not interested "debating" your ignorant crap. There are apologist sites for this kind of evangelical blubber-debunking. Check them out. www.fisheaters.com - or try Scott Hahn.
Ugh, evangelicals. 
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ixolite
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| Now you are mentioning the Anglican Church that sprouted out of Catholicism. |
Like protestantism in general. It's based on the teachings of a catholic monk.
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| Confession is against the bible |
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| John 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained. |
Of course you are correct when you say, the catholic church has more attrocities to answer for, but they were around for about 1500 years longer than the protestants. If you take a look at the fundies in the US, they are eager to catch up and really sad the state won't let them.
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FreePower
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Go keep on reading Jack Chick tracts, FreePower. That´s what you like, apparently. Oh, and btw - the Pope isn´t CHRIST on earth, but His VICAR.
And no - am not interested "debating" your ignorant crap. There are apologist sites for this kind of evangelical blubber-debunking. Check them out. www.fisheaters.com - or try Scott Hahn.
Ugh, evangelicals. |
I have reached all conclusions on my own, you claim I am "ignorant" but yet I am not the one hiding behind the Catholic Church and everything they spoon feed you. I have researched the Bible, the teachings of Jesus and I am also against many protestants. If you want to know what type of Christian I am just click on my signature and find out.
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diotima64
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nope, not interested FP.
Do your dawa somewheres else.
Ugh - evangelicals!
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chingachgook
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| I have reached all conclusions on my own, you claim I am "ignorant" but yet I am not the one hiding behind the Catholic Church and everything they spoon feed you. I have researched the Bible, the teachings of Jesus and I am also against many protestants. If you want to know what type of Christian I am just click on my signature and find out. |
Home Church, like in the days of the infant church, another researched-from-the Bible teaching, blah-blah-blah.... It is but just another religion!!! ... without a shepard. 
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