Pyramid scheme

[aelius valerius]

I think that the cheapest and fastest way to reach millions of people is a pyramid scheme. It has been done quite successfully many times before which shows that people are willing to partake in such schemes, so why don't we also start one?
I realise, of course, that pyramid schemes have a bad name because they often involve cheating folks out of money - in which case they are illegal - but I can see nothing wrong if we just ask people to pass on information.

My idea is to compose a letter exposing the violence in Islam and with a link to FFI and then send it by email or regular mail to at least three people asking each of those to do the same. As these are personal messages they won't get blocked anywhere and people are much more likely to read and trust something if it comes from a friend, colleague or family member.

I have already asked Ali Sina about this and he agrees in principle. I suggested to him that the letter should fit on to one A4 page as people might be a bit lazy to photocopy too many pages if we make the letter too long. He doubts if one can say very much in one page.
What do you think? Should we perhaps make a longer email version and a shorter letter for regular mail?
Is there anyone here with experience in advertising and what would be the most effective way of presenting such a letter?

My own suggestion for the letter would be this:

Hi (name),

I need your help, it is just a little thing for you now, but it could become a matter of life or death! Do you remember the innocent victims of 9/11? The surfers who were killed by a bomb in a Bali nightclub? The innocent children murdered by terrorists in a school in Beslan? Our politicians and media keep telling us that this has nothing to do with Islam, that Islam is peaceful. But this is horribly wrong as I have found out. Please read the following message by Ali Sina, a former Muslim who is exposing Islam. You can also visit www.faithfreedom.org for more information.
Please help me fight the terrorists and send this letter to at least three people you know. It is just a little thing for you but you can help save lives!

(Ali Sina's message)

Photo of dead children in Beslan
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These are the root of all evil: fear of god, of death, of pain, and desire which goes beyond what nature requires for a happy life.

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[Scott]

there needs to be *some* action.. but the initial reaction(s) to the education/enlightenment will run the full range... from being ignored to being violent (any guesses who the participants here would be?) ...

I like the idea of a global message like this, but I don't see how email spam is the best method. Also, naming any particular site such as FFI would probably do more harm to the site than good.

just my opinion.

Personally, I'm up for more of a short document that could be pasted, but not spammed, when appropriate.... to discussions and other forums. I think hosting the document at many sites and then using URLs would be the best -- perhaps sometimes quoting a paragraph or two to get people's attention.

Ya, I figure the posts will be delete, people will be banned, accused of either hate mongering or racial or religion stuff... but the document shouldn't be PC but it shouldn't be evil -- it should just pose questions and possible places to look for answers. It also shouldn't be spammed ala religious fundamentalists -- everywhere and everytime.

I would like to see a FAQ of all the standard crap that is done by muslims in their arguments and possible answers.

like:

(1) Terrorism or Islamic Terrorism -- URL to site that shows that > 98% of all terrorism is done in the name of Allah.

(2) Muslims deny that terrorism is carried out by Muslims. -- See #1. They can deny it, but they are only denying what is factually true.
(2a) Muslims say that those doing terrorism are not (true) Muslims.
-- This is a word game -- those doing the terrorism claim to be muslims, although this "muslim" may not be the same as those who deny, it doesn't matter -- as the terrorists believe that they are muslims and are being true to Is1am.

A list of 10,12 or 25 of these ... short, clean, plenty of urls... I think would be very powerful.

Is there anything like this already? Is anyone willing to help work on such a document?

Scott
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rationalist, peace through education

[Humanist]

[Scott]

huh?

you post here... that's all that's required.
we assemble all the issues that will come up when dealign
with muslims and islam.. and simply address them.

Have you ever heard the joke about the inmates
where one says a number, and they all break out laughing...
and then another says a number, and they all break out laughing?

well, when muslims do the same thing over and over, we need
to simply respond with a number. Ahhh, good old number 3 again.
instead of beating down each hit'n'run muslim... just address it once
and not waste our time.

Have you ever wondered why on a treasure map, one doesn't
just go straight for the spot marked X? We don't have a spot marked
X, but we do have directions around a final target.

Willing to give it a try?

Scott
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rationalist, peace through education

[Bam]

How about getting a hacker to design a computer virus that would infect all e-mail accounts and automatically opens one of Ali's revealing articles on "prophet" Mohammed the terrorist?

[Aeolus]

[Aeolus]

Humanist wrote

[aelius valerius]

[Ali Sina]

[shima]

LOL, I didn't read this thread at first because the title said it all.

Now I'm thinking islam is a pyramid scheme.
It's based on plunder, it asks people to join so that they can get some goodies from the "rich" they destroy.
Eventually they run out of rich people to kill and hit the bottom.

FFI can be advertised easily, it just needs some money.
It can be redesigned by professionals and have many interactive features, that makes it more fun to attract kids.

Quite honestly heavy political discussions mixed with senseless arabic mumbo jumbo is very boring for most people, there should be some fun and livelihood to make it more rewarding.

I'm suggesting to have an estimate for all the costs, and a detailed plan for renewal and additional features. Then start bumming money from the rich that islamists haven't killed yet.

It shouldn't be more than $10-20K USD. Not that much really.
Having some small ad banners sure can help. Some sites make over 100 thousand dollars a day just out of ad banners, why not FFI? the money can be used to spread the word under hundreds of new names and all languages. It's all for anoble cause.
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Islam is the only left over of barbarism on the planet.

[Scott]

Yes... I receive spam from friends and familiy members.

Also, people will not want to read something that they don't want to open their
mind to. We need to figure out some way to get around that.

I was thinking last night... something like --

Have you ever read something that makes you just absolutely furiously angry?
Have you thought about why you had that reaction -- and how it was related
to what you read?

We don't like to read stuff that goes against our beliefs -- but two outcomes are
to ignore what we read (because we don't like it, and don't want to deal with it),
or we can think about it and deal with it -- and perhaps even address what we
found exciting/offensive and why -- and if statements were made that where not
true, then those would be identified as such.

Take, for instance, "terrorism" .... is it only "terrorism" or is it really "islamic terrorism"
and if it's the latter -- why is everyone so afraid to say what it is and address the
real issue?

etc.
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rationalist, peace through education

[Bam]

[Humanist]

[rainbow]

Thank you Aelius, I have started sending that message to friends and aquaintances.

Rainbow

[Ali Sina]