Palestinians are THE TRUE children of Abraham

[Cassandra]

[reletomp]

[Cassandra]

What are you talking about?

My numbers for the Arabs DON'T CONTAIN Bedouins. You are not Bedouin. The issue is not the Bedouins, but the so-called Palestinian ARABS.


You have misrepresented your image:



The pink are Palestinians and Bedouins together. We aren't interested in Bedouins.




Palestinian Arabs are THREE mutations away from the first Cohanim - going backwards in time. Not forward in time.

[Cassandra]

[reletomp]

what about the Negev Bedoin, they are palestinian arabs.
So now bedoin are not arab?

even with out the bedoin Palestinian arabs are 12 not 3 in the CMH+-!, where did you come up with the 3 only??

in CMH+-2 Palestinian arabs Arabs are 18 and in CMH+-3 PA are 24.
The CMH is mainly in Kurdish jews not Ashkenazim or Sephardim (10 CMH in Kurdish jews and only 5 in Sephardim jews and 3 in Palestinian Arabs and 6 in ash jews) if it was not for the kurdish jews CMH would not had been specific to jews.
I did not count muslim kurds J1 even though they are mostly arab gene flow into kurds.
if you look at the network map you see 1/3 arabs in the CMH+-1, another third in the CMH+-2 and a last third in CMH +-3 (3 to 4 one step mutations are allowed fora time span of 3500 years)
hardly no population exist in the CMH+-5 or +-6 etc, indicating the MRCA of CMH cluster lived recently 3500 years ago.
Only Ethiopians and some christian lebanese have cluster away from CMH (semites frm before the time of Abraham)

[Cassandra]

[reletomp]

[reletomp]

well?
check mate it is then.
There was no need for all this running around for 100s of posts.
Like I said, the j1- CMH cluster (ie up to 4 or even 5 one step mutations haplotypes) is the signature of Abraham progeny (the Arabs (400 million people) and the very little tiny portion of Aaron survivors through cohen line in Jews (1% of 12 million people jews worldwide),

and that all the rest of the jews (99% of them) are not descendents from Abraham at all (not through father line and not through mother line)..
Conclusion:

The governmentof Israel is illegal and their giving citizen ship papers to worldwide jewry is also illegal (the Semitic Law of Return of 1949 of the illegal state of Israel), even the rabbies who dispensed the citizenship papers by way of mother or grandmotherjewishness, are also them selves not descendents of Abraham (again not through mother or father line).

Palestine has always been inhabited by the descendents of braham (the Palestinians) who were deported and ethnically cleansed from their country Palestine: the Holy Land or Israel Land if you will).

Britain, The World Jewish Agency and UN and League of Nations before the Rockefellar paid UN on Manhatten Island) are wrong and did wrong to the Palestinians that they should compensate them and return them to their homeland the promise of YHWH to Abraham progey (the Palestinians).

[Cassandra]

What is clear is that the mutation rate for CMH must be around 0.002 if you want to claim that the first Cohanim lived around the time of Aaron.

With this mutation rate, the Palestianian Arab Modal Haplotype, being 3 mutations different from CMH, means that the Palestinian Arab MRCA must have lived about 300 generations BEFORE the first Cohanim.

[reletomp]

What is clear is that the average of all studies abount mutation rates cline toward .004 or .003 as in Ystr.org www.ystr.org/index
If you average the mutation rate for the 6 TRs of CMH in the Ystr.org it is exactly .003

One fast STR can neutralise 2 or more very slow STrs easily.
IN CMH at least one STR is very fast.
in any combination of STRs one STR is fast enough to neutralize any combination of slow STRs.
For example a slow STR can ot go under .000000. but a fast one is upto .07!!! or even .7 for some ( avearage mutation rate is .003).


The CMH cluster range is narrow very narrow (3 mutaions wide containing 95% of all the sister haplotypes as you saw in the MJ netword map above.

this means the CMH cluster is recent not old.
recent as time of Abraham , not old as time of brancing of J1 8 thousand years ago.

you can not also divide the cluster into two clusters one for cohanim and one for arab. because the cluster belong to Abraham ot Aaron. and because you can not divide it period.

Again the conclusion is that millions of arabs are in the CMH cluster of J1 while only few jews are in it.
The reason Thomas et al 1998 and Nebel 2000 and 2001 had high levels in Ashkenazim Israelite, is because the sample of Cohanim Ashkenazim of Hammer 1997 was reused as Ashkenazim in general.
But now only .03 of all jewish men have both J1 -cmh and j2-cmh, making the J1-cmh barely .012 ofthe total population of jews( ie 1.5% of the contemporary jews descend from Abraham and the rest are fillings)
while the Arabs and particularly the Palestinians are 80% J1 (all of J1 of arabs are in the J1-CMH cluster)
making 80% of Palestinians direct descendents of Abraham ( and Isaac Jacob too, since the jews at time of Jesus half of them became known as christians and continued to become the current palestinians!

[ramon22]

Arabs and the Jews are cousins from one father Abrahim (SAW) its a fact you dont need books or dna to prove that just ask a real Jew or an Arab, the Jews you see in Israel are not related to the Arabs cause they are euro trash that adopted the Jewish faith, its funny that people are coming to realize this now, its shocking right cause Arabs and Jews are related that makes them by CHRISTIAN standards half Gods cause they have the same blood that your God has jesus(pbuh), right or wrong
so Saddam must have been like Hercules or something like that, cause it took all the world to power up against him.
forget this triple nonsense, no man is better then the other only by his deeds, let the Jews think they are better then the rest of the world , thats what the devil thought as well.
for more reading go Jewwatch.com also to
jews for allah

[reletomp]

[ramon22]

reletomp could not agree with you more, but to bad people seem to want to live in a fairy tale were Arabs be it Christians or Muslims are seen as evil and the so called Jews are the chosen people,but again this is the age of lairs and cowards

[reletomp]

I am just making fun of things. I don't believe any body is promised.
but those devil advocates on TV are making a killing asking for 20 dollars contribution to the blessed people chosen people of the so called Nation of Israel (meaning the magoggite khazars who named their illegal state ISRAEL!?
to make fun of the world and decieve them into giving their money to them.
but the people who need help of samaritans are the poor Palestinian people who been under seige embargo and starving in their own homeland, hated just because they are named ! Palestinians (ie the Filistines who faught David )

I am just exposing the lies and expecting no help to the palestinians from those monkeys, just to make a point
Monkeys are meant : Benny Hinn, Lahey?, Hagay?, Shamroukh, Shlominsky,ben Khorion, and many more

[Cassandra]