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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: EXMUSLIM 4RM PAKISTAN Reply with quote

I am a student in a reputed university of Pakistan . I haven’t much knowledge as you people have, but in my small age I get the right path. This is the credit I have. I hope that you will find my testimony different than other ex-Muslims because I left Islam not due to the studies against Islam but I left it in search of right sect of Islam.

I was born in mid religious family in Pakistan . I joined the "Berailvi" sect because of my maternal uncle. I joined the movement "Dawat Islami" which spread the Berailvi sect
of Islam. I used to listen naats, mankabat, salat tu waslam...... I was thinking that I am at the right path. I used to wear "imama sharif" (turban) of green color, which was the cause of amusement between my friends.

But I bore all the difficulties because I was thinking to have found the right path. Then as my age increased to 15 years, my heart started diverting from the Berailvi school of thought. I entered in the college for my fsc here. I got a friend (Aslam)who was an ex-Belaivi. He was "ahle hadith" converted from Berailvi sect. I was in a hostel there. We were 3 boys in the room, I , Aslam and ali (who was a shia).

All of other friends of mine use to play, gossips etc, but we discussed about the right path. Aslam was trying to convince me about ahle hadith sect and his discussion was effecting me. Ali was not interfering in our matter. Aslam gave me small book, which gave all the answers of controversial questions. I was convinced by him because there are many pagan ideologies in Berailve sect. He told me that our faith depends on Quran and sahih hadith (saha sita). So I accepted the Ahle Hadith sect and started practicing it.

I read many journals and weekly magazines of Jamat u Dawa. In the same period I started checking the Shias. At that time there was an anti-shia organization "Sipah Sahaba" who was spreading anti Shia literature everywhere. I also got some books against Shias. I read that thoroughly while my friends were busy in playing games and gossiped. After studying the anti Shia literature, I was the worst enemy of Shias. I started debating with my Shia roommate he told me about the Shia site www.answering-ansar.org I surfed that site and got many realities about the companions of Prophet. I was shocked to learn that
1) Omer burnt house of Fatima
2) story of garden of "Fidak"
3) about the "hadith e Kirtas"
4) wars between Ayesha and Ali
5)and many other realities about the imams of Shias

in the same site I got some errors in the Bukhari and muslin which I was thinking were errorless. I was shocked about that ayats usually narrated by Ayesha. At the same time I came to know that Ayesha was 9 years old when she married the Prophet. At that time I was double minded. My brain was not working anymore. I studied more about all these sects but the problems were not being solved. I started saying that I am neither Shia nor Sunni. I am only a Muslim. But my mind wasn’t satisfied ......

Then I got a lecture of Dr. Zakir Naik. That gave me new life .I was very impressed of his memory. I thought that he is "mujadid" (a holy man who came after centuries to renew Islam). I got many CDs, of him listened to him and admired him. I was his fan at that time.

I got bearded, started practicing Islam with a new zeal. I was satisfying my mind by learning the miracles of Quran. My favorite topic was "Quran and science." At that time I started reding the Quran with Urdu translation. While reading, I was finding the miracles in the Quran. I found many miracles (actually I assumed them as miracles).

In the mean time, I got admission in a reputed university of Pakistan . At that time my faith in Islam was dependent of Dr. Zakir Naik.

In this university I got a friend who was also my roommate. He was an atheist and I was a fundamentalist "mullah". Same story repeated again. I started debating with him. But he never showed that he was atheist. He started convincing me. His discussion was effecting me slowly. At the same time I searched the word "Ali Sena" (which is actually the name of my). I got information about FFI and wikiislam ... I was shocked. I tried to open it but I was blocked in Pakistan . I used the proxy changing website www.skurfit.com to access the site.

And then my life changed....................
FFI gave me answers to all the questions. When I told my atheist roommate about this site he opened his heart about the realities of Islam. He told me about his story of guidance, which is about same as mine. I will ask him to join the forum and write his testimony. After that I installed "the Nobel Quran" and "the Hadith" software in my pc. I confirmed many references of Ali Sina. Meanwhile I started writing a book, "Questions Never Answered". I wrote 8 pages, but when I read FFI I felt ashamed of my little knowledge. But though I have little knowledge I know that I have reached that right path of love and peace.

The "mullahs" around me are very angry with me because I shaved my beard after leaving Islam. I was an active participant in there gatherings but now I never go to mosque. This is very surprising for my friends. They can’t digest my wearing of jeans and leaving the Islamic dress, shalwar kamiz. After leaving Islam I was very energetic I did a debate with my old friend in a close room with the promise that he would never tell these things outside. He was convinced but said "la hola wala kowata......" and left me.

It is very difficult for me to act as a Muslim. It is the most hated thing to do. But I am doing all these rubbish.


THIS IS A DIFFRENT TESTIMONY I THINK ISNT IT ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello amarkhan352, this is a great story and im glad you are here to share it with us.
Also yes your route to freedom was very different from others i have read.
You did the quest for yourself and came to the right conclusion.
Ali Sina has helped quite a number of people, with the truth they cannot deny.
It will be wonderful to also meet your friend if he joins FFI.

There is so much to read about here and you can jump in on any topic, or start your own..

ps..luvin your sig

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear amarkhan352, welcome to the forum! Welcome to humanity!

Sorry but yours is not "a different testimony". There are many people who, in their quest to deepen their Islamic knowledge, ended up loosing it. The KKKoran do warn Believers not to question as it would lead one to unbelief! How true, as in your case.

Loving, respecting, tolerating, understanding others REGARDLESS OF COLOR, CREED or NATIONALITY is the only true religion! If god is LIGHT and that Satan is DARKNESS, you, amarkhan352, are in that light !!! Welcome home sonny!!! Gimme a high 5 !!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sahih Bukhari V9 B84 #57 wrote:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"


Be careful dude . Here is what your prophet ordered . One who leaves islam should be killed. Since you leave in an islamic country please dont declare openly you have left islam. IT could endanger your life. This is the 1st suggestion anyone here would give you . Even if you are aware that islam is a fake and evil ideaology its fine . Now the chances of you becoming a victim of this cult and doing crimes in the name of religion are zero . Congrats for your apostasy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Amarkhan!

Great story. I am glad you found FFI and yourself, at last!

But be very careful not to reveal your apostasy, be safe always!

PS: I had difficulty reading your post because in was all in caps. Can you post in normal fonts next time?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amarkhan,
So did you eventually leave Islam or are you still living in doubt?
If you have left it, congratulations on breaking free from this fast spreading cult. It is education alone that will free the mind from the yoke of Islam.
Welcome to FFI, don't forget to contribute your own views here.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An open letter from GOD ALLAH to Amarkhan.

Dear Amar

Accept my heartfelt congratulation. I am so happy to know you left Pislam. But don't leave me, just remember me. I was mere a idol in the
Kaba temple that bustered Mahamoood destroyed. Believe me that Arab
bedouin never visited me in heaven in mirage, never I sent him any
message for mankind to follow. That guy had never splitted moon. How
ridiculous. You believed those stupidity, it's your fault. Don't blame me.
Don't be angry with me. About KKKKuran? Believe me, It was a handy work of conman Mahamoood and his cronies. Itis true I have no University degree but I am not so stupid to write such hocus pocus book.
Believe me, I am not anti-women. I love Women. They bring romantic
feeling in my heart. You know I had three lovely daughter Al Manat. Al
lut, Al-uja. If you see them you will fall in love, I bet. I watch Miss World
Miss Universe peagant every year through my sattelite channel. What a
lovely Indian young women like Aiswyaria, Susmita, Priyanka. They fly
in my dream. I feel so sorry I have not seen any young women from Pakistan as yet. I know that desert pedophile is responsible for it. I am not hostile to other gods and godess. I have very good relation with Hindu gods like Bramhas, Bishnu, Maheswar, Ganesha. Frequently they
visit in my palace where I live. Let me finish today. My good wishesh
is always with you.
Sincerely, God Allah.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

syamal wrote:
An open letter from GOD ALLAH to Amarkhan.

Dear Amar

Accept my heartfelt congratulation. I am so happy to know you left Pislam. But don't leave me, just remember me. I was mere a idol in the
Kaba temple that bustered Mahamoood destroyed. Believe me that Arab
bedouin never visited me in heaven in mirage, never I sent him any
message for mankind to follow. That guy had never splitted moon. How
ridiculous. You believed those stupidity, it's your fault. Don't blame me.
Don't be angry with me. About KKKKuran? Believe me, It was a handy work of conman Mahamoood and his cronies. Itis true I have no University degree but I am not so stupid to write such hocus pocus book.
Believe me, I am not anti-women. I love Women. They bring romantic
feeling in my heart. You know I had three lovely daughter Al Manat. Al
lut, Al-uja. If you see them you will fall in love, I bet. I watch Miss World
Miss Universe peagant every year through my sattelite channel. What a
lovely Indian young women like Aiswyaria, Susmita, Priyanka. They fly
in my dream. I feel so sorry I have not seen any young women from Pakistan as yet. I know that desert pedophile is responsible for it. I am not hostile to other gods and godess. I have very good relation with Hindu gods like Bramhas, Bishnu, Maheswar, Ganesha. Frequently they
visit in my palace where I live. Let me finish today. My good wishesh
is always with you.
Sincerely, God Allah.


La ilah il Allah,
Syamal-ul-rasoolullah

All hail Prophet Syamal (PBUH)
(May he get 7200 virgins (& unlimited Viagra) in heaven)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Be careful dude . Here is what your prophet ordered . One who leaves islam should be killed. Since you leave in an islamic country please dont declare openly you have left islam. IT could endanger your life


Amar should try his best to migrate to western countries. otherwise he might suffer from depression.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: EXMUSLIM 4RM PAKISTAN Reply with quote

Welcome, amarkhan352! Great to have you here, and great to see that you have left Islam!

Good to hear from someone in Pakistan. I say that because the recent elections there were very encouraging - the secular and moderate parties doing extremely well in the results.

Very best wishes to you! Bye for now -
- apricot
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of the best testimonies I have heard in FFI. Thanks for sharing. Please BE CAREFUL. Do not mention the real name of your friends. Take care,
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome, amarkhan352


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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amarkhan352: WHILE ALL THESE ACTIVITIES I HAD STARTED WRITING A BOOK "QUESTIONS EVER UNANSWERED"
I WROTE 8 PAGES BUT WHEN READ THE FFI . I FELT ASHAMED OF MY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE.
BUT THOUGH I HAVE LITTLE KNOWLEDGE BUT I KNOW THAT I HAVE REACHED THAT
RIGHT PATH OF LOVE AND PEACE.


Dear amarkhan352., Greetings and My good wishes to you., I am so glad to read you but i also realize you have great responsibilty of finishing your education ..Standing on your own feet financially or other wise before you write and ANTIISLAMIC BOOK from pakistha.. please don't that for the next 5 years., I hope by the time you are out of college and independent. You can write your life experiences as a book in near future.. but for now just write "YOUR OWN JOUNNAL" with observations life around you in ISLAM.. but keep it for yourself. This could add to your text in time for a book., You know in near future, in internet blogs and in Books there are going to be 1000s of Amar kahanees from poeple like you in near future., So lwait for right time for writing a BOOK..

you may like to read this old thread

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=1120

But please realize, it is not worth getting hurt by openly writing against Islam until you are indepenedent and at right time and from RIGHT PLACE.. So please keep that in mind and first get your College degree with FLYING COLORS..

with best wishes
yeezevee
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have done something close to a miracle and you did it with the help of the Koran and Muhammad. You see through the big lie of Muhammad and became a free person. Look at what Muhammad did, he ended up enslaving billions of Muslims to fulfill his desire for wealth and power. Then you used Islam and Muslims to fulfill your desire to be free and create your own miracles of life without violence, hatred or slavery

"Obey Muhammad" as a commandment from Allah is THE LIE, Just imagine the stupidity of that statement. The most perfect creator of the entire Universe and all he can tell mankind is to obey an Arab Pagan, a sinner, warlord, rapist, murderer. The only way such a situation could succeed is through terror, submit or die.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: EXMUSLIM 4RM PAKISTAN Reply with quote

amarkhan352 wrote:
I am a student in a reputed university of Pakistan . I haven’t much knowledge as you people have, but in my small age I get the right path. This is the credit I have. I hope that you will find my testimony different than other ex-Muslims because I left Islam not due to the studies against Islam but I left it in search of right sect of Islam.

Welcome to humainity. Your testimony is very valuable. The most important thing is that you arrived at this conslusion on your own and of your own free will. You studied Islam with an open mind without any preconcieved notion. Great Guru Nanak said: The truth is one but the paths leading to it are many.
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I was born in mid religious family in Pakistan . I joined the "Berailvi" sect because of my maternal uncle. I joined the movement "Dawat Islami" which spread the Berailvi sect
of Islam. I used to listen naats, mankabat, salat tu waslam...... I was thinking that I am at the right path. I used to wear "imama sharif" (turban) of green color, which was the cause of amusement between my friends.

But I bore all the difficulties because I was thinking to have found the right path. Then as my age increased to 15 years, my heart started diverting from the Berailvi school of thought. I entered in the college for my fsc here. I got a friend (Aslam) who was an ex-Belaivi. He was "ahle hadith" converted from Berailvi sect. I was in a hostel there. We were 3 boys in the room, I , Aslam and ali (who was a shia).

All of other friends of mine use to play, gossips etc, but we discussed about the right path. Aslam was trying to convince me about ahle hadith sect and his discussion was effecting me. Ali was not interfering in our matter. Aslam gave me small book, which gave all the answers of controversial questions. I was convinced by him because there are many pagan ideologies in Berailve sect. He told me that our faith depends on Quran and sahih hadith (saha sita). So I accepted the Ahle Hadith sect and started practicing it.

I read many journals and weekly magazines of Jamat u Dawa. In the same period I started checking the Shias. At that time there was an anti-shia organization "Sipah Sahaba" who was spreading anti Shia literature everywhere. I also got some books against Shias. I read that thoroughly while my friends were busy in playing games and gossiped. After studying the anti Shia literature, I was the worst enemy of Shias. I started debating with my Shia roommate he told me about the Shia site www.answering-ansar.org I surfed that site and got many realities about the companions of Prophet. I was shocked to learn that
1) Omer burnt house of Fatima
2) story of garden of "Fidak"
3) about the "hadith e Kirtas"
4) wars between Ayesha and Ali
5)and many other realities about the imams of Shias

in the same site I got some errors in the Bukhari and muslin which I was thinking were errorless. I was shocked about that ayats usually narrated by Ayesha. At the same time I came to know that Ayesha was 9 years old when she married the Prophet. At that time I was double minded. My brain was not working anymore. I studied more about all these sects but the problems were not being solved. I started saying that I am neither Shia nor Sunni. I am only a Muslim. But my mind wasn’t satisfied ......

Then I got a lecture of Dr. Zakir Naik. That gave me new life .I was very impressed of his memory. I thought that he is "mujadid" (a holy man who came after centuries to renew Islam). I got many CDs, of him listened to him and admired him. I was his fan at that time.

I got bearded, started practicing Islam with a new zeal. I was satisfying my mind by learning the miracles of Quran. My favorite topic was "Quran and science." At that time I started reding the Quran with Urdu translation. While reading, I was finding the miracles in the Quran. I found many miracles (actually I assumed them as miracles).

In the mean time, I got admission in a reputed university of Pakistan . At that time my faith in Islam was dependent of Dr. Zakir Naik.

In this university I got a friend who was also my roommate. He was an atheist and I was a fundamentalist "mullah". Same story repeated again. I started debating with him. But he never showed that he was atheist. He started convincing me. His discussion was effecting me slowly. At the same time I searched the word "Ali Sena" (which is actually the name of my). I got information about FFI and wikiislam ... I was shocked. I tried to open it but I was blocked in Pakistan . I used the proxy changing website www.skurfit.com to access the site.

And then my life changed....................

This was a long journey towards the enlightenment but a necessary one.
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FFI gave me answers to all the questions. When I told my atheist roommate about this site he opened his heart about the realities of Islam. He told me about his story of guidance, which is about same as mine. I will ask him to join the forum and write his testimony. After that I installed "the Nobel Quran" and "the Hadith" software in my pc. I confirmed many references of Ali Sina. Meanwhile I started writing a book, "Questions Never Answered". I wrote 8 pages, but when I read FFI I felt ashamed of my little knowledge. But though I have little knowledge I know that I have reached that right path of love and peace.

You were lucky to have a friend like him. We are glad that you discovered the truth about Islam in the FFI. I am sure you learned a lot from the FFI but your experience is unique. Do not discount your own experience. You should write your book. Your experience will inspire other Muslims in Pakistan. Just be careful. Do not think that your knowledge is little, think of this as a valuable knowledge which could be of help to others. In your book you can describe the journey you took to arrive at the facts about Islam. This can be very interesting story.
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The "mullahs" around me are very angry with me because I shaved my beard after leaving Islam. I was an active participant in there gatherings but now I never go to mosque. This is very surprising for my friends. They can’t digest my wearing of jeans and leaving the Islamic dress, shalwar kamiz. After leaving Islam I was very energetic I did a debate with my old friend in a close room with the promise that he would never tell these things outside. He was convinced but said "la hola wala kowata......" and left me. It is very difficult for me to act as a Muslim. It is the most hated thing to do. But I am doing all these rubbish.

You took a tremendous risk. It is very sad that you have to be afraid of your friends because you do not believe in what they believe in. Muslims are very insecure about Islam.
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