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gonzophilosopher

Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 760 Location: Dar-Ul-Gehenna
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: UK Gov: No Islamic terrorism just 'anti-Islamic activity' |
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From: Daily Mail
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Government renames Islamic terrorism as 'anti-Islamic activity' to woo Muslims
Terrorism by Muslim fanatics was yesterday re-named "anti-Islamic activity" by Jacqui Smith.
The Home Secretary said that - rather than acting in the name of Islam - they were behaving contrary to their faith.
Her words were chosen carefully to reflect new Government strategy on the language used to describe fanatics.
Security officials believe that directly linking terrorism to Islam is inflammatory, and risks alienating mainstream Muslim opinion.
In her first major speech on radicalisation, Miss Smith repeatedly used the phrase "anti-Islamic".
One passage said: "As so many Muslims in the UK and across the world have pointed out, there is nothing Islamic about the wish to terrorise, nothing Islamic about plotting murder, pain and grief. Indeed, if anything, these actions are anti-Islamic".
Another referred to enlisting the Muslim community against "anti-Islamic activity".
It follows a decision taken last year to stop using the phrase 'war on terror', first adopted by US President Bush.
Officials were concerned it could act as a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda, which is determined to manufacture a battle between the values of Islam and the West.
The strategy emerging across Government is to portray terrorists as nothing more than cold-blooded murderers who are not fighting for any religious cause.
Al Qaeda-inspired terrorism is instead being described by key figures as "more like a death cult".
During the speech, Miss Smith said extremists who use the internet to radicalise young children would be pursued in the same way as paedophiles.
She will meet members of the online industry in the next few weeks to decide how to crack down on al Qaeda-inspired sites.
Illegal material will be tracked down and removed, using tactics already deployed against online paedophiles. Those guilty of grooming youngsters for terrorism could face prosecution under incitement laws.
Miss Smith said: "If we are ready and willing to take action to stop the grooming of vulnerable young people on social networking sites, then I believe we should also take action against those who groom vulnerable people for the purposes of violent extremism."
Her plan also includes a new unit to sift through intelligence gathered by police and security agents.
The unit will be told to "identify, analyse and assess not just the inner circle of extremist groups, but those at risk of falling under their influence".
Young people found by them to be falling under the spell of potential terrorists will be targeted for help by community leaders and the authorities.
Outdoor activity centres and sports facilities will be sent guidance to stop them being used as meeting places by fanatics after the July 7 bombers were photographed attending a white water rafting centre in Wales.
Mosques will also be helped to root out extremism, with Imams encouraged to learn English. Efforts will be made to improve the access of women to mosques, and their management committees.
There will also be new advice for universities on how to deal with extremism on campus and a crack down on extremist material in libraries and galleries.
A new forum of headteachers will be set-up to advise on what more can be done to protect children and build bridges across communities. Youngsters will be taught about all faiths in schools, and £2m will be spent "twinning" schools of different faiths.
Funding will be boosted to allow more youngsters to carry out volunteer work overseas.
The Government also wants to hold more "roadshows of mainstream Islamic scholarship around the country.
Miss Smith said: "Counterterrorist policing is not just about the sharp end - the disruption of those who seek to attack us - crucial though that is.
"It must also be about stopping people becoming or supporting terrorists. We can't after all simply arrest our way out of this problem."
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This was inevitable, after earlier attempts by the government to disassociate Islam and Terrorism. How long before the government starts to clamp down on other types of "anti- Islamic" or even "Un-Islamic" activity?
Regards,
Gonzo _________________ "The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. Whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles" - Ayn Rand
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gonzophilosopher

Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 760 Location: Dar-Ul-Gehenna
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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The full transcript of Jacqui Smith's Speech: LINK
The relevant paragraph is:
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As so many Muslims in the UK and across the world have pointed out, there is nothing Islamic about the wish to terrorise, nothing Islamic about plotting murder, pain and grief. Indeed, if anything, these actions are ‘anti-Islamic’.
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Regards,
Gonzo _________________ "The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. Whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles" - Ayn Rand
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Avicenna
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 160
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| This is sad. Otherwise rational people are buying into the lie that terrorism and Islam are incompatible. |
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Salad In
Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 837 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| What would the UK government say to the contention that OBL and his cohorts have heeded, not hijacked Islam? |
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La Ilaha

Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 1653
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: UK Gov: No Islamic terrorism just 'anti-Islamic activity |
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[quote="gonzophilosopher"]
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Government renames Islamic terrorism as 'anti-Islamic activity' to woo Muslims
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Why british dhimmis are so desperate to WOO 3% population of muslims in Islamic republic of britainistan? _________________ “Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.” |
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passerby
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1767
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Can't wait to see what the Brits will say when the islamic terrorists suicide killing them one of these days. Will they going to say it is just "some kids having some fun setting of some firework" and there is nothing to be alarm of? |
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knucklehead
Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1102 Location: "Hater of Islam" & "Lover of Humanity"
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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So is this "Jacqui Smith" a sleeper, right?
That's it, isn't it?
Jacqui Smith is a secret undercover agent from a B.N.P. sleeper cell, cunningly placed in the Labour Party to do STUPID F*CKING THINGS like this and GUARANTEE that the B.N.P. gain support hand over foot at the next election!
Well done Jacqui, you sad, sad excuse for a Labour Party stooge!
I'd vote B.N.P. RIGHT NOW if only on the strength of this insult to civilized humans everywhere if (a) I were British and (b) there were an election.
I'll probably calm down in an hour or two, but you can REALLY see how they are gaining the support of normal, sane and otherwise well balanced British working class voters...
Islam is FAR worse that the B.N.P. could every be and forced to choose between the two, I'd choose the B.N.P. any day of the week!
Otherwise, I wouldn't look at them twice...so "well done Jacqui Smith, you simple-minded buffoon"...  _________________ "I dont have a problem with Jews you stupid judenrat" (Bloodcrazedmuslim)
"The C.I.A. did it!" (JihadJedi) |
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Woland
Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 705
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I officially declare this one of the most idiotic attempts to appease that has ever been witnessed in the whole of history. Do these people actually believe that these acts of submission will satisfy the Muslims? How many times has THAT worked in the last thousand years?
It would be funny if the consequences were not likely to be so dire.
It should be obvious by now that Al-Qaeda and others are well-versed in their religion, commit their atrocities in the name of said religion, and enjoy popular support by Muslims worldwide. How ironic it is that some ignorant non-Muslim who has likely never read a single page of the Koran would declare their goals and actions as not only unislamic, but actually "anti-Islam" as if they were part of a gigantic conspiracy to make Muslims look bad.
It's unbelievable that she would say that these Muslims are acting against their faith when so much points to the contrary. Even the terrorists will gladly say that they do what they do in the name of Islam. She is attempting to define a "correct" Islam as being peaceful, so that the terrorists aren't going against their version of Islam, but against "true Islam".
How easy it is to define problems away when you have an army of "intellectuals" and politicians willing to tarnish the reputation of anyone standing up to call for a return to reality. Everything will be just fine until we can't just pretend that the problem doesn't exist and the bombs hit ever closer to home.
It doesn't matter to me that saying the truth will cause Muslims to riot or otherwise cause more problems in the near future. Waiting until we are forced to admit, hopefully not too late, that Islam itself is the problem will only compound the destruction.
That politicians would blatantly lie to the population in this manner is unacceptable, and I certainly hope history will hold them accountable for the trouble that is to come.
I guess Nazis killing Jews is "anti-Nazism" as well. Discriminating against black people is "anti-racist", and whenever a Communist party oppresses its people, it should be viewed as "anti-Communism".
Regards,
Woland
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Realist

Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 3623
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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The UK is a lost cause the inmates have taken over the asylum and the PC, Multi Culti, Yuman Rites spouting, leftwing, Guardianista Moonbats reign supreme 'black is white' and 'truth is lies' and criminals get looked after and victims ignored. _________________ Honour and Pride have no place in Islam. XXX in a thread on Honour Killing.
Islam is a BUFFET you just select which bits you like and dismiss the rest. Ahmed Bahgat
Whats the drink called that allah says BEES make? Berber says 'I dont know' |
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knucklehead
Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1102 Location: "Hater of Islam" & "Lover of Humanity"
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| The UK is a lost cause the inmates have taken over the asylum and the PC, Multi Culti, Yuman Rites spouting, leftwing, Guardianista Moonbats reign supreme 'black is white' and 'truth is lies' and criminals get looked after and victims ignored. |
Let me get this right...
So Jacqui Smith, a biased and weak-minded, middle-class British leftist who has never read the Koran and who's closest contact to Islam is her Friday night "after the wine-bar" kebab - says that violence and killing is "anti-Islamic"...
While Osama Bin Laden, a Saudi Muslim and self-styled Islamic leader who HAS read the Koran, who lives the Koran, who is willing to murder for the Koran and is happy to spend the better part of his day hiding in a cave (without access to any "after the wine-bar kebab" may I add) BECAUSE he has done these things - says that violence and killing IS Islamic...
I know who I'd listen to when wondering what the REAL Islam is all about...
Who the HELL does this b*tch think she is?
Whatever you think about O.B.L you have to admit he knows his sh*t vis a vis Islam and the Koran!
Ms Smith, on the other hand, obviously does not...  _________________ "I dont have a problem with Jews you stupid judenrat" (Bloodcrazedmuslim)
"The C.I.A. did it!" (JihadJedi) |
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capner

Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 590
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: Appeasers |
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Keep in mind too you guys that the England Government was trying to appease the german people even 6 MONTHS after WW2 started! They were sending bombers over germany dropping leaflets of appeasement instead of bombs. Brits, a great many of them anyway, are just plain cowards. Hand wringing cowards. And they haven't learned their lesson to this very day. So, they are also retards. _________________ Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. |
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thunderbalt
Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 2975
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| passerby wrote: |
| Can't wait to see what the Brits will say when the islamic terrorists suicide killing them one of these days. Will they going to say it is just "some kids having some fun setting of some firework" and there is nothing to be alarm of? |
It already happened on 7/7. |
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thunderbalt
Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 2975
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| knucklehead wrote: |
So is this "Jacqui Smith" a sleeper, right?
That's it, isn't it?
Jacqui Smith is a secret undercover agent from a B.N.P. sleeper cell, cunningly placed in the Labour Party to do STUPID F*CKING THINGS like this and GUARANTEE that the B.N.P. gain support hand over foot at the next election!
Well done Jacqui, you sad, sad excuse for a Labour Party stooge!
I'd vote B.N.P. RIGHT NOW if only on the strength of this insult to civilized humans everywhere if (a) I were British and (b) there were an election.
I'll probably calm down in an hour or two, but you can REALLY see how they are gaining the support of normal, sane and otherwise well balanced British working class voters...
Islam is FAR worse that the B.N.P. could every be and forced to choose between the two, I'd choose the B.N.P. any day of the week!
Otherwise, I wouldn't look at them twice...so "well done Jacqui Smith, you simple-minded buffoon"...  |
May be she want the English to be:
"Anti-Islamic."
Surely some will think this is what the new name means especially coming from the person responsible with their security. |
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sum
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 8527 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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The British public is far from cowardly. It is those in power that shame the rest of us. No political party has Islam on its election manifesto.
I have to ask, how many countries in the West have had a full open public examination of Islam, Muhammad and the Koran where the possible implications for that country are made clear? Not one. Why? Because of the threat of terror.
Muhammad still rules - "I have been made victorious through terror".
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Anti-Jihad

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 3356 Location: US of A
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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If anything at all happens against Islam, its not the west that this will happen in, it will happen in either India or Israel, the two most countries where Islam has wreaked havoc.
Please read through this:
http://www.voi.org/books/tcqp/ _________________
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| Facts for you. There is only 1 country in the world, that comes even close to Shariah law and it is Saudi. |
There is so much hatred in Islam that it even turns on itself. |
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