Bread, Milk & a divorce please!

cherryblossom · Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1020

Some of the replies are obvious idiots who really dont get the big picture, some have more common sense in the mattter. I like the one which says the wife is not free to marry a "real" man. Love that one. The husband obviously thinks his marriage is of no value or worth fighting for. Something I have noticed recently with the divorce rates being soo high amongst Muslims there seems to be no stigma attached to it nowadays. Its like changing your shoes, its that easy, where is the value of marriage? This note passing business is pretty common in SA society and maybe she took the note because she didnt know what to do with the guy shoving a piece of paper in her hand. Dosent mean she is going to call the guy does it? Good luck to her and her kids I hope she has a happier and better life without the idiot. And leaving his kids behind - what a bastard.
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MsWesterner · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 11888

another cruel male from the "sexually insecure ranks of the cult" where he obviously has no love or concern for his children and the humiliation he would cause to them either......but this is islam, utterly obsessed about ownership and control of women, and yet this very male could have 3 extra wives if he wanted to and keep rotating them for replacement models.

poor little submissive slave to this imaginary allah!

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MsWesterner · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 11888

purleeze anp......what a ridiculous statement to make, as is your "taught" perception that any non muslim or non believer must be automically immoral.

What "ease" islam gives him to divorce his wife and mother of his children.......and if he had any respect at all for either of them, (a) he would talk with his wife first, and (b) most certainly would not shame and humiliate his children like he did.

"lax morality" of the west Ali Sina......perhaps it depends on where you live!!!! People I know are very moral in their lives and business dealings, having respect for themselves, their spouse/partners and their children.

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brainout · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:19 am Post subject:

Why are people ASSuming that she took the number for the sake of adultery? What if she was looking to get out of Islam and this guy was going to help her -- that would also be a reason to not give the number, too.

The article didn't say WHY she refused. Pretending adulterous interest would have freed her, especially given the husband's quick temper -- but admiting to want to leave Islam would have gotten her killed.
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MsWesterner · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 11888

yassine......who on earth "told" you that people can divorce just by email and sms......again, you have been lied to!!!

divorce is a legal procedure......and lengthy, and quite unlike in islam where a male only has to say the words x 3 times!!! And WHY is it that muslim males have no concern about the ease for males to get out of marriage and into another, but their women don't.

and you dont know the background of this woman or why she would put the paper in her purse.......questions you might ask yourself are

1. might she have been in a abusive marriage, where the husband "beat" her
2. could she have been married from age 9, without "informed" consent and in a loveless marriage
3. might she have needed help!!!
4. he may also have had 3 other wives, and we know how muslim women feel so degraded and humiliated with this nonsense which makes a mockery of marriage and fidelity

and after all, she might be bound by backward islamic laws, but likely never ever had the choice but to be muslim or not either.

Sanitarium · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:30 am Post subject:

Mughal · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:10 am Post subject:

I think it is a serious problem in all communities that people cheat.

The reason seems to me is ignorance as to what marriage is all about.

Tribal customs and religious norms are to be blamed for the culture of cheating. Tribal and religious men have been marrying many women for children rather than love. These people did not know what love was all about. This is the main reason men have been beating up their wives and had been treating them like animals because these men were animals themselves.

However as we develop and educate ourselves, we will come to realise that marriage should be first and foremost for love and thereafter for children. If two people really love each other, they can never cheat on each other and the children they will bring up will be an asset for the human community. Tribals and religious people have been bringing up children for fighting battles to dominate each other. Had they really loved their wives and children, wars would not have occurred.

This is due to the fact that you do not like to see those people hurt whom you love.

Let us hope things will change for the better as we learn more about life.
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LoveChild · Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Posts: 290

Sanitarium and MsWesterner => 100% AGREED

LoveChild · Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Posts: 290

Ali Sina: Adultery is not something that is seen as normal and acceptable in the West. It is one of legal grounds for divorce, but the procedure is kinda different and only one for both - men and women.