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katlike
Joined: 28 Mar 2005
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| Ahhh, so a Child, who loses both parents, is screwed for life. |
The muslim excuse I have heard is islam does not allow adoption because it places so much importance on family, it is wrong for an adopted child to lose out on it's rightful family inheritence. How many rich orphans do you all think there have been in this world? In other words, in islam, family comes down to money, and money alone. How noble of islam. 
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miss_safiyyah
Joined: 25 May 2008
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Location: Somewhere Secular
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| This essentially shows the Koran is not of God |
I cannot understand why people (Muslims) believe it is the word of God. This book is full of nonsense, and whats even more ridicules is that there are loads of immoral, ludacris and down right inept paragraphs in the Quar'an.
Forbidding adoption is absurd, but there must be a sick twisted reason why Muhammad made it haram, what did he get in return. I personally believe he done it so he could marry any woman or child, and keep the boys as slaves without the hassle of inheritance.
This really breaks my heart saying this  because I have met some good Muslims, but anyone who believes in the Quar'an is justifying immorality especially when they see no wrong in Muhammad marrying a child of 9. |
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LCD
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| This essentially shows the Koran is not of God |
I cannot understand why people (Muslims) believe it is the word of God. This book is full of nonsense, and whats even more ridicules is that there are loads of immoral, ludacris and down right inept paragraphs in the Quar'an.
Forbidding adoption is absurd, but there must be a sick twisted reason why Muhammad made it haram, what did he get in return. I personally believe he done it so he could marry any woman or child, and keep the boys as slaves without the hassle of inheritance.
This really breaks my heart saying this because I have met some good Muslims, but anyone who believes in the Quar'an is justifying immorality especially when they see no wrong in Muhammad marrying a child of 9. |
Some show was on last night, and this muslim girl was talking about her Head Veil and she looks at the camera with a straight face and says. "Islam is the Fufillment of Judiasm."
And i nearly spit the water out i was drinking. Stupid Dhimmi. |
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miss_safiyyah
Joined: 25 May 2008
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Some show was on last night, and this muslim girl was talking about her Head Veil and she looks at the camera with a straight face and says. "Islam is the Fufillment of Judiasm."
And i nearly spit the water out i was drinking. Stupid Dhimmi. |
I was speaking to someone about Islam and they were impressed with my knowledge of islam but not impressed with my views on it. Now him thinking im misled  , said all my questions (on Islamic Morals) will be answered, by one man.......................................... 
You guessed who that man is yet..................Yes Dr Zaik Nakir.... 
I then told him that Dr Zaik Nakir is a foolish man who said women cannot be prophets because, when they lead a prayer all the men would be looking at her Bum.... He agreed with Dr Zaik Nakir.
These Muslims hey, make me &
P.S what programme was that on (the Hijabi lady) |
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MassiveZebra
Joined: 12 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| miss_safiyyah wrote: |
| LCD wrote: |
Some show was on last night, and this muslim girl was talking about her Head Veil and she looks at the camera with a straight face and says. "Islam is the Fufillment of Judiasm."
And i nearly spit the water out i was drinking. Stupid Dhimmi. |
I was speaking to someone about Islam and they were impressed with my knowledge of islam but not impressed with my views on it. Now him thinking im misled , said all my questions (on Islamic Morals) will be answered, by one man..........................................
You guessed who that man is yet..................Yes Dr Zaik Nakir....
I then told him that Dr Zaik Nakir is a foolish man who said women cannot be prophets because, when they lead a prayer all the men would be looking at her Bum.... He agreed with Dr Zaik Nakir.
These Muslims hey, make me &
P.S what programme was that on (the Hijabi lady) |
Zakir Niak?????
That man is such a tease. He says, "Pigs are the only animal which allows its friends to have sex with its own mate. Similarly in America, they have parties. One may says to his friend, 'You sleep with my wife, and I will sleep with your wife.' This proves that if you eat pigs...you will behave like pigs."
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Fra-Diavolo
Joined: 30 Jul 2007
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Location: Broccolino, Nuova Pork
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:43 am Post subject: another gem |
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When i asked this question in an islamic chat room this is what I got:
Fra-diavolo: why 54 year old Muhammed had sex with a 9 year old child?
internaute74: muhamad didn't had sex but got maried
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yah-habibi
Joined: 20 Apr 2005
Posts: 416
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: 30 Common answers from muslims |
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During discussion with muslims I always get these answers from them, I made a list of the most popular ones if anyone has more please list them.
1. Read the Qur'an with an open mind |
Quran was not intended to be read with open mind. First accept it in its entirty, then read.
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In fact, it is Muslim themselves who take versus of common sense and rational out of context.
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| 3. Read the following verse |
I read it. Muhammad has consummated the marriage to 9 year old Ai'sha.
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| 4. Read the verse before that one |
Muhammad getting ready to consummate his "marriage" to 9 year old Ai'isha
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| 5. Christians kill too |
Christians did not send a child with explosive belt to blow himself and kill other children of his own age.
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| 6. That Hadith is false |
yes, when it exposes the ugly truth about Muhammad and islam.
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| 7. That Hadith is suspicious |
see above.
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| 8. You must know arabic to understand the Qur'an |
So, do the Pakistanis, the Indians (Muslims), the Indonesians, the Malaysians, Turks, the farsis, Chechnya, where local language is not Arabic, do they understand the Qur'an.?.
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| 9. Must be an error in the translation |
That included the whole Quran.
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| 10. What's your religion? |
a Non-Muslim.
11. Allah knows your actions before you are born but you have free will
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| 12. Muhammad is the last prophet because the Qur'an says so |
He is the last con man who got away with it. had he appeared today, he would be escorted to the nearest psychiatric clinic.
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| 13. Qur'an is true because Muhammad said so |
Muhammad also told Ai'sha's father (Abu Bakr), Allah had "commanded" him to marry a 6 year old child.
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| 14. Enemies of Islam wrote that Hadith |
True, except they themselves were also Muslims.
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| 15. Aysha was 22 when she got married |
maybe to one of her lovers after Mo kicked the bucket 4 years earlier.
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| 16. Girls in the desert mature more quickly |
Correction. It is The horny buster Arab and Muslim man with raging testosterones who mature quicker.
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| 17. She was 6 but she consented to marry Mohamed |
He substituted his horny little head with one of her dolls, and she "consented" to play with the new "toy".
18. Everybody is born a muslim
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and should have been the last.
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yet, nowhere in old and new testamont one will find the word "Islam".
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| 21. Adam was the first muslim |
Is like asking. Who came first the chicken or the egg.
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| 22. You must recite the shahada to become a muslim |
It demostrate the shallow and superficial of this cult.
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| 23. Those muslims that kill muslims are not muslims |
They learned this from from Muhammad himself.
24. The russian police killed those children
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| 25. 9/11 was a jewish conspiracy |
Yeh, Muslim also blame Jews with conspiracy to the climate change.
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| 26. Killing innocents is forbidden in Islam |
killing innocent are the only enterprise Islamist excell with.
27. Katrina was Allah's punishment on the Kuffar
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| 28. Jewish used to stone their women too |
Today, this practice is outright illigal.
29. Christians killed unbelievers too
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| 30. Jews have a Tsunami machine. |
yeh, they are in final stage of such design to flood Mecca & Madinah
No, that is for now.
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billyclem
Joined: 09 Aug 2008
Posts: 19
Location: Washington state
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| miss_safiyyah wrote: |
| LCD wrote: |
| This essentially shows the Koran is not of God |
I cannot understand why people (Muslims) believe it is the word of God. This book is full of nonsense, and whats even more ridicules is that there are loads of immoral, ludacris and down right inept paragraphs in the Quar'an.
Forbidding adoption is absurd, but there must be a sick twisted reason why Muhammad made it haram, what did he get in return. I personally believe he done it so he could marry any woman or child, and keep the boys as slaves without the hassle of inheritance.
This really breaks my heart saying this because I have met some good Muslims, but anyone who believes in the Quar'an is justifying immorality especially when they see no wrong in Muhammad marrying a child of 9. |
The Mo-man probably prohibited adoption out of jealousy and anger. His father died when he was an infant and his mother dumped him on his grandfather when he was 2 or 3. So the Mo-man essentially grew up without an official father. If he didn't have one, other orphans wouldn't either!
You have to understand, Islam is the result of the Mo-man's physical and mental illnesses. The rules of Islam are based on the warped thoughts, compulsive behaviors and the general lunatic rantings of someone who believed he was in contact with god and was entitled to special treatment. Follow the GOURD........................
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ixolite
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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Location: land of pork and beer
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| The Mo-man probably prohibited adoption out of jealousy and anger. |
No, out of lust. He was horny for Zaynab, wife of his adopted son. Getting Zaid to divorce Zaynab wasn't hard, but marrying the daughter-in-law was a taboo in his society and with banning adoption Zaid wasn't his son anymore and Zaynab not his daughter-in-law and viola Mo got what he wanted.
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yah-habibi
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[quote="ixolite"]
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| . Getting Zaid to divorce Zaynab wasn't hard, but marrying the daughter-in-law was a taboo in his society and with banning adoption Zaid wasn't his son anymore and Zaynab not his daughter-in-law and viola Mo got what he wanted. |
wallah wallah, yet another one of those "miracles" of Islam.
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Bismillove
Joined: 25 Sep 2008
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Location: Universe
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When a Muslim replies: "Allah knows best", or "It is the Will of Allah"
That always ends what could've been a fruitful conversation.
As the saying goes: "Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
Peace (the kind that doesn't blow itself up).
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Q8sobieski
Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 277
Location: A higher state of evolution
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: 30 Common answers from muslims |
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| 30. Jews have a Tsunami machine. |
yeh, they are in final stage of such design to flood Mecca & Madinah |
It's true! The machine is huge! You can see it from space. But since all of the satellites are owned by NASA (in the pocket of the Israelis), the Russians (infiltrated by Russian Jews) or the Europeans (indebted to the Rothschild family) they hide the evidence. |
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AirlieBeach
Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: My all time favourite... |
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Has to be "You should respect other people's beliefs."
It really takes the cake for hypocrisy and doublethink, at least it sure does when talking to Muslims! |
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Ex-muslimah
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 909
Location: Scotland somewhere
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In another part of the forum I get "icy logic"
Aherm, that is rich.
One thing I can't make sense of the cult is the problems it poses for us who live in countries whose time for praying is mucked up, if it is REALLY a world of god, surely they'd know about it already?
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Pointerr
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Here is one famous :
1) Inshallah (Allah Willing), the whole world population will become Muslims .... 
Don't know why Allah is waiting for ???
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