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Nymph
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 461
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: |
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If Islam is true, why do Muslims lie about it in order to get converts?
If Islam is true, then why do they need to kill apostates?
If Islam is true, then why are the behaviors of the Prophet so repugnant?
Some apologists will say that kind of behavior was standard at the time-but Mohammed is supposed to be the example for All times.
Jesus lived 600 years before Mohammed, and Buddha lived 900 years before Mohammed. yet their teachings still hold up to modern humanistic standards. In fact, they are the examples for modern humanistic values. It's wrong to say killing, rape, pedophilia was ok back then and it is not ok now.
Mohammed is no holy man. He was an evil bandit and perv. Just because you are surrounded by people who say Mohammed is great doesn't make him great. _________________ There are eleven things which are impure: urine, excrement, sperm, bones, blood, dogs, pigs, non-Muslim men and women, wine, beer, and the sweat of the excrement-eating camel.
-Ayatollah Khomeini's little green book |
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sum
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 8527 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Has Message deserted his own thread because he will not tell us if my definition of "bigot" holds true and whether, by this definition, muslims are the biggest bigots of them all?
I think that his thread has backfired on him and he realises it.
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Message
Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 72
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Dear BIGOTS
LOL Do you really think you qualify to debate with me on Islam? Bigots the answer is No, you do not qualify because you have no intelligence!
Some of the rubbish that are clear cut lies that are spread on this forum followed by the stupidity that you convey on this site suggests I will be better spending my time reminding you that ISLAM IS NOT GOING DIE!
Bigot Sum there is not just one definition of Bigot, however you displayed bigot characteristics in your debate with Payne which btw you LOST BIG TIME!
Seriously how can you win a debate when you contributed NOTHING!
Only moronic bigots like you would fool yourself to believe that! Anyways here is one other definition extracted from''Compact Oxford Dictionary Thesaurus & Wordpower Guide'' I suggest you invest in one to increase your IQ. Its only £13.99 from WH Smith.
bigot
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| a person with prejudiced views who does not tolerate the opinions of other people. |
Who does that remind me of on this site? All you fools on here but especially you Sum  |
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Message
Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 72
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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P.S. ISLAM IS STILL ALIVE BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW LONG WILL YOU SURVIVE?
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  |
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sum
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 8527 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Message
I am pleased that you were provoked into returning to your thread.
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bigot
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a person with prejudiced views who does not tolerate the opinions of other people.
Who does that remind me of on this site? All you fools on here but especially you Sum
Please look at the part in bold as it compliments my definition. Tell us if it describes muslims as I claim that muslims are the greatest and most dangerous bigots of all.
You are accusing me of making no great contribution to the debate with PAYNE. You are guilty of contributing nothing but ad hominems in your own thread.
Your quote -
Anyways here is one other definition extracted from''Compact Oxford Dictionary Thesaurus & Wordpower Guide'' I suggest you invest in one to increase your IQ. Its only £13.99 from WH Smith.
It is clear that you can read but unfortunately not understand. I do not know which level you have reached at school but you are not doing very well, are you?
As far as the debate with PAYNE is concerned PAYNE was trying to make out that Muhammad was more important than Allah. Tell us if Muhammad is more important than Allah.
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MsWesterner
Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 11888
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:59 am Post subject: |
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we look forward to seeing you actually "debate" then message!!!
oh yes...islam is alive right now, thats for sure - but the girl MURDERED by her own father for not wearing what was "commanded" isnt!!!
any system that so harm and oppresses its people will have its uprising.....and guess what message!!!
your females are not the "intellectually inferior, deficient, dirty" and unworthy human beings you have been INDOCTRINATED to believe with the deceit of islam and its depravity
but communism died once people learned the truths, facts and realities message........and muslims with intellect and integrity and balls are LEAVING islam in droves, whilst the gullible remain, too scared to even read the koranic deceit that is staring them in the face......WHY????
truth will prevail.....and islam will fail as the ummah and its backwardness deteriorate even further (if thats possible)
message.......did you enjoy seeing 10,000 adult muslim males "seething, rampaging, damaging property" showing the world quite how backward islam is when these males and fathers IGNORE the atrocities and appalling conditions in their own backyard, but wanted THE BLOOD OF A TEACHER over a teddy bear lol. |
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Ram
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 1502
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:17 am Post subject: |
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P.S. ISLAM IS STILL ALIVE BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW LONG WILL YOU SURVIVE?
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  |
It is absolutely certain that one day Islam will die. The seeds of destruction are in the evil creed itself.
The humanity (including those who call themselves Muslims) will rejoice when Islam will come to its end.
Goodness and Islam cannot co-exist! |
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MsWesterner
Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 11888
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: |
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hear hear Ram.......message should know that
(a) those whom were never ever given a choice to be muslim or not
(b) those harmed by the teachings and obscenities
(c) those shackled by the deceit and TAUGHT behaviours
(d) those whom do love their children more than a cruel deranged pedophile
(e) those with intellect and integrity and the guts to face the "provable errors" in the koran coupled with the truths, facts and realities but PREVENTED from saying so due to islam itself
will rejoice when islam falls.......it wont disappear as there will always be gullible people desperate to clutch at whatever they are indoctrinated with and some actually prepared to be "slaves", but islam cannot exist as it is in this world and cannot continue to harm the countless millions that it does. And it wont!!!
the only question is how long its going to take and how many more innocent lives will be lost and harmed DUE TO ISLAM ITSELF |
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sum
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 8527 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I do not know about "Bigots are failing" but Message is failing.
What is he offering in his own thread? Nothing but silly comments and ad hominems. I have to admit that I am grateful to him for helping us in our cause in showing the visitors what Islam does to a person.
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Message
Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 72
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Bigots,
Come on whats happening to your mission? I will spell it out to you morons Islam is still alive for one and secondly your bullsh!t is fooling no muslim to apostate.
I mean some of the radical bigots such as Sum gets his @ss kicked in debates but he refuses to admit he has been beaten lol way to go convincing us about Islam moron.
Then there is the rest of you guys wasting the little time you have on this planet, attempting to eradicate the truth which btw will still be here when you die.
Bigots I will leave you with Islam is going nowhere, it won't die.
Salam |
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sum
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 8527 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Message
You are running away from the truth, aren`t you?
Please tell us if muslims are bigots.
Please tell us who carries the most weight - Muhammad or Allah.
sum |
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Message
Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 72
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Message
You are running away from the truth, aren`t you? |
No not really.
Are bigots failing their stupid mission? Answer:Yes
Are you a bigot? Answer:Yes
Did you get your @ss kicked in a debate and still find it hard to admit you lost? Answer:Yes
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| Please tell us if muslims are bigots. |
Yes I am sure there are muslims that are bigots. There are muslims that I probably do not get on with because of there extreme views which I disagree with. However we are not talking about muslims are we? No summy I am talking about fools like you on here!
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Please tell us who carries the most weight - Muhammad or Allah.
sum |
Hahahahahahahahaha, who do you think? Read this carefully...HE HAS ANSWERED THIS QUESTION ALREADY IN THE DEBATE THAT YOU LOST!
Sum seriously you brought nothing because of your stupidity and ignorance. You simply cannot admit when you have been beaten. He answered every question of yours. lol you are great entertainment Mr BIGOT!
PS Islam will not die
Salam |
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Realist

Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 3623
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| sum wrote: |
Hello Message
You are running away from the truth, aren`t you? |
No not really.
Are bigots failing their stupid mission? Answer:Yes
Are you a bigot? Answer:Yes
Did you get your @ss kicked in a debate and still find it hard to admit you lost? Answer:Yes
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| Please tell us if muslims are bigots. |
Yes I am sure there are muslims that are bigots. There are muslims that I probably do not get on with because of there extreme views which I disagree with. However we are not talking about muslims are we? No summy I am talking about fools like you on here!
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Please tell us who carries the most weight - Muhammad or Allah.
sum |
Hahahahahahahahaha, who do you think? Read this carefully...HE HAS ANSWERED THIS QUESTION ALREADY IN THE DEBATE THAT YOU LOST!
Sum seriously you brought nothing because of your stupidity and ignorance. You simply cannot admit when you have been beaten. He answered every question of yours. lol you are great entertainment Mr BIGOT!
PS Islam will not die
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And because YOU say all this its true is it .  _________________ Honour and Pride have no place in Islam. XXX in a thread on Honour Killing.
Islam is a BUFFET you just select which bits you like and dismiss the rest. Ahmed Bahgat
Whats the drink called that allah says BEES make? Berber says 'I dont know' |
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sum
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 8527 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Hello Message
Will you please reassure us that you will stay on the FFI forum as you are helping our cause enormously?
It is most interesting that you have picked me out for most of the ad hominens.
I provided you with a definition of bigot and then you supported it with your own definition! Looking at both definitions it can not be denied that all muslims are bigots because they steadfastly hold beliefs that defy reason and can not be persuaded otherwise. Your greatest scholar, Al_Ghazzali, made sure that all muslims were bigots when he introduced the maxim of "If faith and reason are in conflict, precedence must be given to faith". If this is not bigotry I do not know what is.
Do you agree that you and all muslims are therefore bigots?
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Message
Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 72
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Message
(a) Will you please reassure us that you will stay on the FFI forum as you are helping our cause enormously?
(b) It is most interesting that you have picked me out for most of the ad hominens.
(c) I provided you with a definition of bigot and then you supported it with your own definition! Looking at both definitions it can not be denied that all muslims are bigots because they steadfastly hold beliefs that defy reason and can not be persuaded otherwise. Your greatest scholar, Al_Ghazzali, made sure that all muslims were bigots when he introduced the maxim of "If faith and reason are in conflict, precedence must be given to faith". If this is not bigotry I do not know what is.
(d) Do you agree that you and all muslims are therefore bigots?
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I am going to break down each of your quotes with responses so please read carefully.
(a) It is irrelevant if I am a member on this site because all you bigots are failing your mission with or without me which is to convince muslims to leave Islam. Convince one with your bullsh!t views, you will establish it is near impossible.
(b) I have not attacked you because I am trying to be evasive as I have always responded to your foolish comments therefore thank you for exposing your bigot characteristics to me yet again. My insults such as fool and moron actually describes you pretty well.
(c) I provided you with a definition of bigot which fits well with you and your fellow ffi members. However I do believe some are geniune skeptics but they will be influenced by bigots like you. As for Al Ghazzali he is a prominent scholar thats it. So how has he influenced every muslim around the world? Only god and the prophet (pbuh) are the sole influence to us muslims. Narrow minded idiot, have you ever come up with a valid argument?
You are losing this battle and like a desperate bigot you keep responding to fool yourself that Islam is actually dying...lol!
Bigots please stop wasting your time and realise Islam is still alive and kicking! |
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