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THHuxley_redux



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Birth Certificates

In Australia, the Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages issues birth certificates for the state or territory in which the birth took place.

If you were born in Australia on or after 20 August 1986, in addition to the birth certificate, you will also need to provide evidence that one parent was an Australian citizen or had permanent resident status at the time of your birth.

Copies or extracts of a birth certificate.

Copies or extracts of a birth certificate are not acceptable. If born in Australia, an original full birth certificate issued by a state or territory Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages must be presented in support of each new adult passport application (but not a renewal form) and each child application regardless of whether the child has had a previous passport. Commemorative birth certificates are not accepted.

Passports Tips and Hints

Commemorative birth certificates, birth extracts, photocopies or facsimile copies are not acceptable. A commemorative birth certificate is A3 in size and has a theme or a fancy design. A standard birth certificate is always issued with a commemorative certificate and this should be used for passport purposes.

Good for Australia.

When Obama applies for an Australian passport, then perhaps someone will care.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THHuxley_redux wrote:
piggy wrote:
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Birth Certificates

In Australia, the Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages issues birth certificates for the state or territory in which the birth took place.

If you were born in Australia on or after 20 August 1986, in addition to the birth certificate, you will also need to provide evidence that one parent was an Australian citizen or had permanent resident status at the time of your birth.

Copies or extracts of a birth certificate.

Copies or extracts of a birth certificate are not acceptable. If born in Australia, an original full birth certificate issued by a state or territory Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages must be presented in support of each new adult passport application (but not a renewal form) and each child application regardless of whether the child has had a previous passport. Commemorative birth certificates are not accepted.

Passports Tips and Hints

Commemorative birth certificates, birth extracts, photocopies or facsimile copies are not acceptable. A commemorative birth certificate is A3 in size and has a theme or a fancy design. A standard birth certificate is always issued with a commemorative certificate and this should be used for passport purposes.

Good for Australia.

When Obama applies for an Australian passport, then perhaps someone will care.


Yeah ............ whatever .............. it just showed you how WRONG you are!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

piggy wrote:
Yeah ............ whatever .............. it just showed you how WRONG you are!

Sure it did.....

...if Obama was an Australian applying for an Australian passport.

Last I looked, he was not.

A birth certificate in Australia is still a certification of the original record in the Register (which is itself not a birth certificate). Unless it has that official seal, signature and certification is not valid for a passport. The regulation points out (exactly as I have been repeatedly saying) that even a photo-image of the record is a worthless piece of paper without that official certification.

I know you still don't get it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Berg goes further in the audacity of his deceit. He has actually has put on his web site and his advertisements a quotation he attributes to Sarah Obama: "I was in the delivery room in (Mombosa [sic]) Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."



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Maybe he has some artifact of evidence which gives him an honest right to do so. I have not heard that evidence. Maybe he is being dishonest. Maybe he is not. Even if he is being dishonest, that does not make him wrong. I've heard of people, including police officers, faking evidence to clinch criminal cases that they were sure of.


What an intriguing statement from someone who wishes to 'defend the Constitution' and make sure the law is respected ... an 'artefact of evidence' giving someone an 'honest right'. What's an 'artefact of evidence' BS? Real evidence or an... artefact?

Whatever. As Berg is sure that Obama was born in Mombasa then he is justified in faking the evidence by inventing quotations from Sarah Obama. Where did you learn so much about legal procedures BS? Pyongyang?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THHuxley_redux wrote:
piggy wrote:
Yeah ............ whatever .............. it just showed you how WRONG you are!

Sure it did.....

...if Obama was an Australian applying for an Australian passport.

Last I looked, he was not.

A birth certificate in Australia is still a certification of the original record in the Register (which is itself not a birth certificate). Unless it has that official seal, signature and certification is not valid for a passport. The regulation points out (exactly as I have been repeatedly saying) that even a photo-image of the record is a worthless piece of paper without that official certification.

I know you still don't get it.


My point has been made, much to your dislike at being proven WRONG!

Squirm all you like, it won't change that FACT!

FACT ............. the birth certificate & the extract are two different documents.

Both are endorsed by authorized officials ......... but CLEARLY DIFFERENT documents = NOT THE SAME ............. duh!

You have admitted that there is no legislation that provides for a COLB to be acceptable as a substitute for a BIRTH CERTIFICATE as the regulation/code REQUIRES, and that the COLB is a bureaucrat's invention.

Therefore Obama has not made (if at all) an acceptable CLAIM (yet to be approved) of citizenship until such time as he produces a BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

Here is an image copy of a Hawaiian certification (NOT certificate) of live birth - NOT a Birth Certificate.



Here is the image copy of a Hawaiian certification (NOT certificate) of live birth provided by the Obamabots - NOT a Birth Certificate.



Here is an image copy of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE (NOT certification) - a certified image copy.



The certification (COLB) provided by Obama is NOT an ORIGINAL birth certificate (which IS available upon application) NOR is it a COPY of the ORIGINAL.

It relies on information that is may well have been submitted for the records by lay-persons who have uttered false oath and set in motion as hoax............... Obama's reluctance and apparent refusal to furnish an image copy of the ORIGINAL BC is in defiance of the regulations, the US Constitution & those PEOPLE of USA who have every right to petition the US Govt to redress their grievance in this matter.

The ONLY reliable source of information for Obama's CLAIM, (still in progress and subject to approval of citizenship) to be in accordance with the regulations, is to furnish an image copy of the ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.


Cop it sweet ............... you have been proven WRONG!


I know you still don't like it!



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

piggy wrote:
My point has been made, much to your dislike at being proven WRONG!

Squirm all you like, it won't change that FACT!

The only point you have made is that you cannot defend your falsehood with American law... so you have resorted to Australian law. The profound inadequacy of such a tactic speaks for itself.

It is no more relevant than simply making up laws out of thin air... something you also have periodically resorted to.

Now.... since the rest of your post is simply the repeatedly refuted falsehoods of a woman who has moved from merely ignorant to actively dishonest, there is no need to rebut its multiple untruths yet again.

I will only repeat what the State of Hawaii Department of Health announced when presented with the Obama COLB:

“It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.”
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F*uck Australia!

G&C
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gaul&Carthage wrote:
F*uck Australia!

G&C



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why so confused girl?

G&C
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gaul&Carthage wrote:
Why so confused girl?

G&C


It´s my natural state of being.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice place to be. So much to discover. Others here have no uncertainty. All is already known and reduced...

What a hoot!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gaul&Carthage wrote:
F*uck Australia!

G&C


Get off the thread please, or contribute to the matter about Obama.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Say please.

G&C

p.s. Oh you did...okay it's all yours...just don't get me worked up again mate. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THHuxley_redux wrote:
piggy wrote:
My point has been made, much to your dislike at being proven WRONG!

Squirm all you like, it won't change that FACT!

The only point you have made is that you cannot defend your falsehood with American law... so you have resorted to Australian law. The profound stupidity of such a tactic speaks for itself.

It is no more relevant than simply making up laws out of thin air... something you also have periodically resorted to.

Now.... since the rest of your post is simply the repeatedly refuted falsehoods of a woman who has moved from merely ignorant to actively dishonest, there is no need to rebut its multiple untruths yet again.

I will only repeat what the State of Hawaii Department of Health announced when presented with the Obama COLB:

“It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.”


Hawaii State COLB is not a birth certificate, unless you can show that it is provided for by LAW as an acceptable substitute for a BIRTH CERTIFICATE as is REQUIRED to make a CLAIM of citizenship. .............. NOT A BUREAUCRATIC INVENTION ............

Here it is again, for those with the ego problem that appears to stand in the way of sound reasoning..........are you ready? .............. see if you get it this time ..................

piggy wrote:
THHuxley_redux wrote:
piggy wrote:
Yeah ............ whatever .............. it just showed you how WRONG you are!

Sure it did.....

...if Obama was an Australian applying for an Australian passport.

Last I looked, he was not.

A birth certificate in Australia is still a certification of the original record in the Register (which is itself not a birth certificate). Unless it has that official seal, signature and certification is not valid for a passport. The regulation points out (exactly as I have been repeatedly saying) that even a photo-image of the record is a worthless piece of paper without that official certification.

I know you still don't get it.


My point has been made, much to your dislike at being proven WRONG!

Squirm all you like, it won't change that FACT!

FACT ............. the birth certificate & the extract are two different documents.

Both are endorsed by authorized officials ......... but CLEARLY DIFFERENT documents = NOT THE SAME ............. duh!

You have admitted that there is no legislation that provides for a COLB to be acceptable as a substitute for a BIRTH CERTIFICATE as the regulation/code REQUIRES, and that the COLB is a bureaucrat's invention.

Therefore Obama has not made (if at all) an acceptable CLAIM (yet to be approved) of citizenship until such time as he produces a BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

Here is an image copy of a Hawaiian certification (NOT certificate) of live birth - NOT a Birth Certificate.



Here is the image copy of a Hawaiian certification (NOT certificate) of live birth provided by the Obamabots - NOT a Birth Certificate.



Here is an image copy of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE (NOT certification) - a certified image copy.



The certification (COLB) provided by Obama is NOT an ORIGINAL birth certificate (which IS available upon application) NOR is it a COPY of the ORIGINAL.

It relies on information that is may well have been submitted for the records by lay-persons who have uttered false oath and set in motion as hoax............... Obama's reluctance and apparent refusal to furnish an image copy of the ORIGINAL BC is in defiance of the regulations, the US Constitution & those PEOPLE of USA who have every right to petition the US Govt to redress their grievance in this matter.

The ONLY reliable source of information for Obama's CLAIM, (still in progress and subject to approval of citizenship) to be in accordance with the regulations, is to furnish an image copy of the ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.


Cop it sweet ............... you have been proven WRONG! ............ REPEATEDLY!


I know you really still don't like it!



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

piggy wrote:
Hawaii State COLB is not a birth certificate, unless you can show that it is provided for as a substitute by LAW. .............. NOT BUREAUCRATIC INVENTION ............

A COLB is a birth certificate BY DEFINITION.

It is not a substitute for anything.

It is absolute legal proof of Obama's citizenship by birth.
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