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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: The one and only Obama-thread Reply with quote

Obama: No Hand on Heart for Pledge

By Mark Finkelstein | October 20, 2007 - 16:50 ET
Turns out that not wearing a flag lapel pin isn't the only way Barack Obama chooses to show that he's a different kind of Democrat.

Have a look at the photo from the October 1, 2007 edition of "Time." It shows Obama, Hillary and Bill Richardson at the Steak Fry of Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) on September 17 in Indianola, IA, apparently reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Richardson and Clinton have their hands on their heart. But not Obama. Does he perhaps believe that, like wearing the flag pin, the hand on the heart isn't "true patriotism"?

ran the photo without comment. I haven't seen coverage of this anywhere else in the MSM. Perhaps some enterprising reporter can ask the Illinois senator about his decision to spurn this American tradition.

Meanwhile, does Obama have some third act or omission planned to demonstrate that he's not falling for those corny, old-fashioned displays of patriotism?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelst...will-msm-notice




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'NOBODY IS SUFFERING MORE THAN THE PALENTINIAN PEOPLE,' OBAMA SAID, while on the final leg of his weekend trip to eastern Iowa.
The Palestinian Authority is controlled by Hamas, a political party that does not recognize Israel's sovereignty and is listed by several countries - including the United States - as a terrorist organization. The United States and other nations imposed restrictions on aid when Hamas gained power last year.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007703120330
THE HALAL FOOD ACT WAS SPONSORED BY BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMS. in August 2001.
"This law will give Muslims in Illinois confidence that the Halal food products they buy are indeed prepared according to Islamic law."'
"Senate Bill 750 was sponsored in by Senators Christine Radogno, R-La Grange, Laurence Walsh, D-Elwood, Barack Obama,..."
http://www.illinois.gov/PressReleases/ShowPressRelease.cfm?SubjectID=3&RecNum=1517
Obama's pastor admits concerns over candidate's ties to Islam
Chad Groening
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March 21, 2007
The head of a pro-Israel ministry is praising the PASTOR OF Democratic presidential candidate Barack OBAMA'SO church for ADMITTING HIS CONCERNS ABOUT the Illinois senator's (OBAMA's) ASSOCIATION WITH THE PALESTINIANS AND THE NATION OF ISLAM leader Louis Farrakhan.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/03/obamas_p...ts_concerns.php
...in two separate interviews, Pastor Wright has REVEALED HIS CONCERNS ABOUT OBAMA'S PRO-ISLAMIC LEANINGS.
Markell FEARS THAT IF OBAMA BECOMES PRESIDENT, THE UNITED STATES WILL BLATANTLY TURN ITS BACK ON ISRAEL- AND SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES later.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barring a miracle, Obama is history. He's so far behind in the polls that he has little or no chance of obtaining the Democratic nomination.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: Re: Obama: No Hand on Heart for Pledge Reply with quote

MissTexas wrote:
Obama: No Hand on Heart for Pledge

By Mark Finkelstein | October 20, 2007 - 16:50 ET
Turns out that not wearing a flag lapel pin isn't the only way Barack Obama chooses to show that he's a different kind of Democrat..
Actually it used to be done with the arm streight up in the air. http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter1a1f.html
The Nazi salute has been traced to the city of Rome in the state of New York, and not to Rome, Italy, in an astounding new historical discovery. The notorious "Hitler greeting" salute has been known as the "Roman" salute and attributed without support to ancient Rome. http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html

New evidence shows that the straight-arm salute and its name originated from Rome, NY via Francis Bellamy, a resident and the author of the pledge of allegiance. The pledge of allegiance originally used the straight-arm salute. Eye-popping photos are at http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html

New York's "Heil Hitler" style salute began in 1892 when the pledge was written. The Roman salute myth arose from the fact that Francis Bellamy (the author of the pledge of allegiance and of its original straight-arm salute) was from the city of Rome (in the state of New York, not in Italy) and people and things from the city in New York state were referred to as "Roman" and still are today.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stork by the Lake

His hands are where his mind is! 72 virgins!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kokov wrote:
Stork by the Lake

His hands are where his mind is! 72 virgins!
Nowadays it's apparently considered racist to be patriotic.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha Haaaa Very good, Marky.

This has caused a pretty good flap since I posted it- also Romney's
'slip' about Obama calling for all terrorist to converge in Iraq.
Ha Ha Haaaaaaa..way to go, Mitt!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, Hussein is saying his grandfather taught him to pledge the allegiance to flag when I was two. (When confronted with the photo of everyone with their hands over their hearts but him) What a blatant lie!!
He wasn't around his American grandfather at that age, and his MUSLIM grandfather would not teach him to pledge a country full of Christians and Jews- and indeed a country- that he had been taught to hate.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Obama claim that his posture in the photo was during the singing of the national anthem, rather than the pledge?? He claims the photo misrepresented him.

Even if Obama is correct in his claims, his posture is still disrespectful towards his nation. Who stands so sloppily with their hands in front of their nuts when the national anthem is being played?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Obama: No Hand on Heart for Pledge Reply with quote

markie wrote:
Actually it used to be done with the arm straight up in the air. http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter1a1f.html
LOL!!! fantastic bit of knowledge, thank you!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Obama: No Hand on Heart for Pledge Reply with quote

shahcrew wrote:
markie wrote:
Actually it used to be done with the arm straight up in the air. http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter1a1f.html
LOL!!! fantastic bit of knowledge, thank you!


Crap! That brings back nasty old memories when I went to a private school back in the 6..8 grade (1957..1959). In the mornings, we would all gather in the courtyard and say the pledge of allegance with the outstretched right arm Nazi-style. Those of use who put their hand over their heart as I was first taught were disciplined. The headmaster of the school was such a disciplinarian that everybody thought he really was a Nazi.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlitvHXqHig

Explain why Obama is Muslim.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Searcher wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlitvHXqHig

Explain why Obama is Muslim.


I do not believe Obama is a Muslim now, however he is covering up his past. Either for political gain or to protect his life, because he knows he is an apostate and under Islamic law and under a death sentence.
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Teejay wrote:
Searcher wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlitvHXqHig

Explain why Obama is Muslim.


I do not believe Obama is a Muslim now, however he is covering up his past. Either for political gain or to protect his life, because he knows he is an apostate and under Islamic law and under a death sentence.


Actually I do think he is Muslim.
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Karngga wrote:
This video actually asks a lot of the questions I have been asking about Obama - mainly - if he is an apostate from Islam, how come the islamics aren't issuing the obligatory death threats? If he is an apostate, why are the muslims swinging their support behind him? The claim is also made that big money isn't behind him, how then is he able to afford the attempt on the Presidency, given that it normally costs millions? Need to also draw attention to him stating he would pull the troops out of Iraq as soon as possible.

I agree, there is something extremely fishy about all this.


Carlos Menem the former president of Argentina, converted from Islam to Catholicism and he was never issued with death threats. Although he married a Muslim who kept her religion.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:38 am    Post subject: Some new stuff on Obama Reply with quote

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The facts below can be verified by links to Obama's speeches, books and various newspaper accounts, yet he's never asked any hard questions by the media. Why?? Are we that PC insane?
Is he going to ride the affirmative action/race/Oprah card all the way to the White House??

Obama IS a Muslim. Muslim law states if you are born into it by means of the father, you ARE a Muslim.
Leaving Islam punishable by death: Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Koran, Vol. 9:57
> Obama stated he was a Muslim in 'Dreams of My Father', yet today his camp denys it, supports Islam and his closest associates and biggest supporters financially are Muslims.

>Obama's father, grandfather, gg grandfather and stepfather have a history of multiple wives (pologamy) mistresses and 'wives' where no marriage license can be found.

>Obama's Muslim father, grandfather, stepfather have a history of deserting their wives and children.

>Obama attending Muslim schools where he studied the Islam and the Koran.
His teachers and friends testify that he was Muslim.
http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/01/t...ia-part-3.html

Quotes from Obama's books that tell us of his Muslim past and love for Islam:

From 'Dreams of my Father', "In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school"
"I studied the Koran.."

Obma quote in Dreams Of My Father:
"THE PERSON WHO MADE ME PROUDEST OF ALL WAS MY BROTHER, ROY, WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM."

"Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different, His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me, the blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, propmised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline forged through sheer force of will"
(I have read Malcom X books- full of hate for the white man.
Yet Obama ADMIRES HIM.)

An interesting side note, Obama's book, The Audacity of Hope when it came out in Jakarta, it's title was translated to......
"Jihad: From Jakarta To The Whitehouse".!!!!!

From 'Audacity', "We are no longer just a Christian nation," "We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."

(A MUSLIM nation, Obama?? I don't THINK so! Not a Christian nation? We still are.)

From 'Audacity of Hope: "Lolo (Obama's step father) followed a brand of Islam that could make room for the remnants of more ancient animist and Hindu faiths," Obama recalled. "He explained that a man took on the powers of whatever he ate: One day soon, he promised, he would bring home a piece of tiger meat for us to share. ", " IT WAS LOLO THAT I LOOKED TO FOR GUIDANCE. " (A Muslim father is obligated to lead the son in the path of Islam)

>Obama is prominantly displayed as banner boy for Project Islamic H.O.P.E.
http://islamichope.org/

>Obama scorns his white mother who raised him alone and sent him to a fine university after his Muslim father deserted him.

>He scorns the white grandparents who helped raise and educate him.

>He worships and glorifies the Muslim father who deserted them.

Quotes from Obama's books that prove his disdain for the white race:

From Dreams of My Father, " I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASISVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE".

From 'Dreams of My Father',
"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.

From 'Dreams', "never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

From 'Dreams',
"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs," he wrote. "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names"

From 'Dreams', "I had grown accustomed, everywhere, to suspicions between the races."

From 'Dreams of my Father', "The emotion between the races could never be pure, even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or salvation, the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart."

From 'Dreams', "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white." This was a statement made about one of his bosses.

From 'Audacity', "We are no longer just a Christian nation," "We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."

>He 'carefully picks his friends' during college years, scorning whites for blacks.
http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_03_12/feature.html

>Obama stated he ran with blacks only 'to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."
http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Tr...o_worlds_.html

/>Obama joined black radical, racist church as a 'cover'.

The church's pastor, Jeremiah Wright is a radical black supremacist who associates with radical Muslims.

The church's doctrine is printed on their website http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

Part of Obama's church doctrine:

Commitment to the BLACK Community

Commitment to the BLACK Family

Adherence to the BLACK Work Ethic

Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the BLACKCommunity

Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting BLACK Institutions

Pledge allegiance to all BLACK leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System

Personal commitment to embracement of the BLACK Value System.

(If your church had such a doctrine, Jesse and Al and the NAACP would have 10,000 demonstrators out front in a heartbeat!!!)

>Obama repeatedly lies to enhance his 'story':
States he was influenced by story in magazine about a black man trying to bleach his skin. No such story exists.
States his grandfather was a poor goat hearder. His father was prosperous.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/3...weet28.article

>Obama's voting record proves he is an extreme radical left winger:

Passed a bill requiring police to videotape interrogations for crimes punishable by the death penalty; legislation to curb racial profiling.

Obama supports homosexual marriage, racial preferences, gun control, flag-burning, socialized medicine and the absolute right to abortion, including partial-birth abortions. He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive.

Obama is anti-war, voted against the reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act, against privatizing Social Security and opposes the death penalty, three strikes laws and school vouchers. HE HAS NO MILITARY SERVICE RECORD.

Obama opposed the Defense of Marriage Act; would work to repeal it in the U.S. Senate; would not vote for any legislation that would restrict the ability of gays and lesbians to marry.

Obama opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times in Illinois. A similar bill passed the U.S. Senate 98-0. The Born Alive bill would have prohibited a baby from being born alive but left to die according to the mother's wishe!!

Obama opposed this bill not once, twice, or three times, but four times
http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_cat...an_id=BS030017
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rati...an_id=BS030017

>Obama the liar http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3304.html

>Obama Involved in dirty deal with radical Muslim sympathizer, Tony Rezko
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/14/us...WS&oref=slogin

>Obama thinks sex education for kindergartners, 'right thing to do'!!!
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...-for-kind.html

>Obama refuses to place his hand over his heart to honor the flag
http://www.time.com/time/photogaller...446035,00.html

>Obama states that as president he would reduce drug dealer sentences and address the 'racial inequality' issue
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obam.../28/36580.html

>Obama accuses fellow American citizens of murdering Iraq citizens
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obam.../06/38781.html

>Obama pushes 'the Dream Act', allowing illegal aliens who graduate from high school financial help with college
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obam.../21/42615.html

>The Illinois Democrat has missed nearly 80 percent of all votes since September.

Obama routinely avoids voting on any issue that is not helpful to Muslim goals.
For example, Obama missed a vote on a resolution that declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, an elite part of the Iranian military, a terrorist organization
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/02/obama.missed.votes/index.html#cnnSTCText

>Obama takes cheap shot at Bush and Cheney, calls Cheney "crazy uncle in the atic"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-in-the-attic/

>Obama sponsers the Halal food act and it's put into law.

(In other words, hang screaming animals up by their hing legs and slit their throats while they are still alive to drain out all the blood so the flesh will be 'Halal' for Muslims- this is done sometimes by Muslim families as a ritual/party in the yard with family and friends in attendance)

http://www.illinois.gov/PressRelease...=3&RecNum=1517

>Obama the liar. States his folks meet in Selma during the 'march', married and he was born. He was born in 1961. The Selma 'march'
was in 1965.
http://www.illinois.gov/PressRelease...=3&RecNum=1517

Obama's association with radical Muslim supporters
http://www.logoonline.com/news/story...entTypeID=1299

>Obama states 'NOBODY IS SUFFERING MORE THAN THE PALESTINE PEOPLE' !!!!!
The Palestinian Authority is controlled by Hamas, a political party that does not recognize Israel's sovereignty and is listed by several countries - including the United States - as a terrorist organization. The United States and other nations imposed restrictions on aid when Hamas gained power last year.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatc...ves/015619.php

Educate yourself:

Barack Hussein Obama:

http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_pas...for_Obama_.html
http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Trapped_...c-article-obama
http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm
http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007...stand-with.html
http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/OBAMA.html
http://www.usvetdsp.com/dec06/obama_muslim.htm

Obama pandering to illegal aliens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxccl-r6Gzs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT3xsX0RI-8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEITOQfKVmo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z30rRxE9d-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxccl-r6Gzs

Obama told the radical Mexican organization La Raza, ' the demonstrations recently for (illegal aliens) illegal immigrant' "rights" are equal in greatness to the civil rights marches of the past'

He supports the 'Dream act' - helping to college educate children of illegals at tax payer expense and other atrocities.

The truth about illegal aliens:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter88.htm
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...p;search=Search

Muslim "religion":

http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/stock/060604
http://www.islam-watch.org/AmilImani/IslamDummy.htm
http://www.al-buruj.com/
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

Chilling Muslim demonstration in London:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs

See what Muslims have done to Sweden:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBpVAj4ILM

Some cities in Minnosota have to listen to THIS 5x a day over loudspeakers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlLaUCAQlQQ

Muslims in New York City desecrate the American flag:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OYOvcZBEyY
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http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/OBAMA.html
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