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I am a new member here, and reached to the website answering faithfreedom through this website. I have only an objective question. I have seen many debates their like Zuhar vs. Ali Sina . Bassam Zawadi vs Ali Sina, Nadir Ahmed vs Ali Sina etc. I am aware that those are the edited versions of the debates. Among those debate, I got the unedited version of Nadir Ahmed (owner of examine the truth) vs Ali Sina here in faithfreedom.org here http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/NadirAhmed.htm .

Are the unedited versions of other debates also available on faithfreedom?
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[baloch]

I was there and had some fun.

Please have a look at one of the exchange I had .

http://www.answering-faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=274&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

It gets intresting after page 3.

Mr. Zuber and Mr. Sohail ( known well here) ventured some responses but they mostly offered personal insults and irrelevent inanities. And these worthies presumed to debate Ali Sina! They look like clones of Zakir Naik.


Your comments are welcome.

Khuda Hafiz.

[yeezevee]

well baloch., zubair is here in FFI

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/search.php?search_author=zubair
we canteach that guy here also., I am glad you went there., Let us slap those baby butts here in this folder also..llo..

yeezevee

[Baal]

Hey Baloch, i created an account over there. I noticed a confusion about the word "Dakhla" or "Dokhla"

Dakhal is the verb for Enter or Penetrate in the case of 'Entering a Woman'.

Nikah is the verb for a "Legal Intercourse". Because the verb is so commonly used in the koran, the scholars agreed that the use of the word in the koran only applies to the legal aspect of Nikah (ie: Marriage) or any condition that would permit a man to legally Enter (dakhal) a woman. Like 'Nikah' what the right hand possess.
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[Baal]

Hey Baloch, i created an account over there. I noticed a confusion about the word "Dakhla" or "Dokhla"

Dakhal is the verb for Enter or Penetrate in the case of 'Entering a Woman'.

Nikah is the verb for a "Legal Intercourse". Because the verb is so commonly used in the koran, the scholars agreed that the use of the word in the koran only applies to the legal aspect of Nikah (ie: Marriage) or any condition that would permit a man to legally Enter (dakhal) a woman. Like 'Nikah' what the right hand possess.
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"Kad Kazab Alayna Muhammed"
Islam is Not Genetically Inherited from your Parents.
"Child brides in non-Western society is about love, marriage and husband and wife bonds." - AMuslim arguing for his Nabey Al-Saleh

[baloch]

Language is so wonderful a subject. No wonder the Bible says something like "in the beginning there was the word (logos) and the word was with the Lord " . But I digress.

Thank you for your input, Baal. I suppose you know Arabic. As an Urdu speaking Muslim ( well Balochi, too) I had always thought that 'Nikah' meant marriage per se. It had all the association of decorum and solemnity and nuances of the sacred and the divine. Just as in the case of 'marriage'.

I was surprised to be told that 'Nikah" is Arabic equivalent of 'Fcuk'. So what is the Arabic word for Marriage?

Khuda Hafiz.

[brainout]

baloch, why didn't zuher answer what you were saying? For all his posting, he spent most of it telling you how bad you were, and maybe I missed it, but he never answered your portrayal of the Koranic 'heaven'. It's not even remotely possible that raisins reside on couches, perpetually fresh. So why virgins? He didn't seem to deny that they are perpetual virgins, but did seem deny that sex was therefore the reason for them being virgins. Why then stress that they are virgins, and not explain why?

Nor is there any other holy book I know which depicts heaven as a sexual thing (well, I don't remember the Hindu depiction all that well).

The Bible quotes he makes -- why, I can't fathom, Bible is condemning those things, not approving them -- don't answer squat in what you said. The squeamishness of the West is well-known historically, no doubt about it.

Did I miss his answer? Was he unwell when he posted? Sorry to interrupt. Please forgive me.
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[baloch]

hello yeezevee!


Zuber and his sidekick Suhail ( it may be other way around) are both so stupid. Every time one responds with some rubbish the other fellow is there applauding him. I Pakistan we call such solidarity " Chamchagiri"

The word " Chamcha" has entered English language thanks to Salman Rushdie's Satanic verses.

Anyway, Take care.

Hi Baal.

Yes, I see you on Answering-Faithfreedom.

My knowledge of Arabic is zilch. I am only discussing an appropriate translation for "dakhla" as used in Bukhari's hadith.

I kicked up a hornet's nest when I said that it should be translated as "cuff" ( you know what I mean) rather than as "consumating the marriage"

I am not much of a debator but these guys(Suhail and Zubair) are downright childish.

Hi "brainout"

All interuptions are always welcome. No need for apologies. You are right to notice how abusive they are. One guy even called my mother a prostitute.

Now I see that he (Suhail) has put his exchange with me on the Homepage.

I feel honored to be there with "yeezevee"

take care all of you.

Khuda Hafiz.

[Mullah Rock N Roll]

[Mullah Rock N Roll]

[baloch]

Hi Mullah Yaqub

I read with intrest your engagement with Mansoor_ali. I am sure you gave this idiot a sleepless night or two.

Can you please let me have the material you could not post at Ans-FFI,
I mean the stuff from Goplpayghani ?

Thanks.

Khuda Hafiz.

[charleslemartel]

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