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hesham
Joined: 23 Oct 2007
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| no you made this website for money,and to take people with you submit to Allah,he is the way. there is nothing in this world like him fear Allah .Islam is love is my destiny. alsina or all love satan indecent never alone. idont think 1 muslim really changed cuz of you the ones that say they did are your paid workers, oohps wasnt suppose to leak out that information. people change people die Quran remains, never will a single letter in it change cuz God is protecting it . theres all the proof anyone sould need |
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wachamalit
Joined: 06 Jun 2005
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Location: Atheist corner.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: |
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no you made this website for money,
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Money from what source?Show me proof.
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the ones that say they did are your paid workers
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Show me an apostate that left Islam because he is paid by Ali Sina. Hopefully someone who is not from your imagination.
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oohps wasnt suppose to leak out that information
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You mean "oops wasn't suppose to take my wishful thinking too seriously".
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estaforallah
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: Re: My father is muslim and my mother is jewish. |
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| Antimuslim wrote: |
My father is muslim and my mother is jewish, can I be part of this forum? I was raised as a muslim but upon reading the translations of the Quran and the hadiths, I realized that Islam is a man made religion and that muhammad was the worst thing that ever happened. I no longer talk to my father nor any of his relatives and have been through this identity crisis (not knowing why I'm here and not knowing who I am). But one thing that remains for certain is that there is a God. After abandoning Islam I started questioning Judiasm. I have found the following to be true:
The exodus did occur because archaelogists found egyptian chariots in the Reed Sea. They also found this peice of papyrus with heiroglyphics that illustrated the ten plagues that God sent to the egyptians in order to set the Hebrews free.
The torah also says that you do not have to be jewish in order to go to the Garden of Eden (Heaven) once you are dead. You just have to follow God's ten commandments. |
i like what you said in the bottom cuz believe it or not in the quran it mentions pretty much same thing.. u can actually enter heaven through your deeds and belive in God. so pretty much same exact thing.. y so against muslims.. lol u kno muslims believe in moses(ra) .. believe it or not im egyptian! haha k that came out of no where just felt like sayn so...anywho moses(ra) is one of the prophets |
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estaforallah
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Fathom Ali Sina ..
as I said .. if you fight against ISLAM ( the dead thing)
in my term you just do iditoc action ....
but if you fight against bad guys moslem .. ( you got my support )
or wait a minutes ..maybe , ...there are I miss .. ?
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1. Are you moderate Muslim?
2. Would you kill people for Allah?
3. Would you kill people for Islam?
4. Would you kill apostates?
I would kill no one, because no god would tell me to kill any one person. |
i dont thnk any religion tells u to kill someone.. haha i dought alot of people would be convinced to join that religion.. and islam is 2nd largest religion in the world.. if killin was ok in islam.. i dought it be that high of a number of people in islam.. |
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MsWesterner
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estaforella......the vast majority of muslims were never given any choice as to "join" islam, or not - and are denied the choice/option of leaving freely.
But islam gives non muslims what they deny muslims, the right to choose religion (until they are in, then wham bam......they learn the real truths and sad facts that they cant leave)
please dont boast about whatever size you claim your religion is when
(a) your millions dont get a choice, so are not actually choosing....they are stuck with it
(b) millions would not call themselves muslim, was there not the "fear factor" of being honest with others
(c) the millions who apostate are not free to openly say so, for very obvious reasons given what islam is and means for apostates.
and yes....your religion does say to kill - that we (whom dont believe in the deceit and fairytales) are to submit, convert OR BE KILLED |
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Night side-eclipse
Joined: 16 Mar 2007
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Location: Earth...it does not belong to Allah.
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I'm an ex-Muslim, and I would love to be a part of this forum.
Keep up the good work Ali.
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estaforallah
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estaforella......the vast majority of muslims were never given any choice as to "join" islam, or not - and are denied the choice/option of leaving freely.
But islam gives non muslims what they deny muslims, the right to choose religion (until they are in, then wham bam......they learn the real truths and sad facts that they cant leave)
please dont boast about whatever size you claim your religion is when
(a) your millions dont get a choice, so are not actually choosing....they are stuck with it
(b) millions would not call themselves muslim, was there not the "fear factor" of being honest with others
(c) the millions who apostate are not free to openly say so, for very obvious reasons given what islam is and means for apostates.
and yes....your religion does say to kill - that we (whom dont believe in the deceit and fairytales) are to submit, convert OR BE KILLED |
idk where you get your facts from.. dude nothin in the quran says to kill ive read it..im not only muslim by birth im also muslim by practice.. and nothin in the quran says kill those who dont convert or disbelief. islam like judaism and christianity talks about how there is only one God. and those who disbelieve may be sent to hell.. but its Gods decission for what to do with them. nothin in quran says a human has a right to take another humans right. if a muslim choses not to be muslim.. sure whatever they can.. only reason why people are against ali sian is not because he was muslim and left the religion.. i highly dought any muslim could care less they might bug him about it. but cant do anythin about it. only thing that aggrivates us is all the fake acusations and the "prove me wrong" when we do prove you guys wrong you say how were just tryin to make u convert... like seriously tryin to make u convert is knockin on ur door shoving this down ur throat when u dont want anythin to do with it. but all im doing is tryin to clear the misconceptions about islam.. you wana hate it bravo hate it.. u dont have to love it were not asking u too.. but sayin we are "terrorists" prob not the smartest thing that came out of ur mouths. cuz were probly nothing near terrorists. dude there are muslims in the fbi, cia, goverment usa and non usa. so there all terrorist.. might as well say the whole world are terrorists |
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MsWesterner
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esta....."those who disbelieve will be sent to hell" you say
what hell....what allah???? do you mean the one whom muslims claim everything that happens is by "his or her will"
we dont have misconceptions......the facts, truths and realities are there for all to see
I WILL NEVER be converting or submitting to something that is not only provably false, immoral, quite depraved and totally dishonest, but also responsible for the most appalling misery and actual harm to countless millions |
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monasjazz
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dear MsWesterner..
to WHO.. you are submitting ?
to WHO ..you are pray ?
tell me ... ( if you have the answer )
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MsWesterner
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monas....human beings with self respect and strengths dont have to submit to anyone or any imaginary being
and why would I pray to any imaginary being......what good does prayer 5 x per day do for the countless millions of victims of your cult, so harmed, so oppressed, and living in such appalling misery and conditions
"submission" is weak - real men and women dont SUBMIT - its degrading, and you are subjugating yourself |
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monasjazz
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Yes,......... I agreed with you , dear MsWesterner ..
the real moslem and moslemah are must be never SUBMIT in their SUBMISSION to The GOD ( ALLAH )..
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dzayerboy
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: hi |
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hi everyone , i'm a new member of this forum , an apostate , of course , welcome me !!
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MsWesterner
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| hi dzayerboy and a very big welcome.....have you introduced yourself in the new members forum??? |
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Sunchaser
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Huh. I guess the whole "For Muslims and ex-Muslims only" thing got shot to hell.
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Shahzad
Joined: 14 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Huh. I guess the whole "For Muslims and ex-Muslims only" thing got shot to hell. |
Too bad, this rule needs to be enforced. I thought this would be a place I could get away from all the right wing (mostly white) scum of the forum. Unfortunately they've infested this place too. |
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