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Ali Sina
Joined: 13 Feb 2004
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| However, I would like to request you to be patient and allow me to deal with Nadir Ahmed until the conclusion of this challenge. |
My friend Nadir is finished. This is obvious to any thinking person. The moment he made those ridiculous demands he signed his defeat. What else you want to do with the poor guy? He has shown here publicly that he is a coward and cannot and will not face you.
Actually I do not see even the need for you to confront him in person. You are not going to battle with each other physically (I hope) so why meet him at all? You can easily debate on line and I think the Internet provides the best medium for debates. If he had any guts I would reserve a thread only to two of you so you can debate. The rest of us will comment on another thread and will not interfere. But Nadir is not going to accept this. He would use any excuse to avoid debates. His list of unreasonable demands just is a clear proof that he does not want to debate.
As far as we are concerned Nadir is finished. Please do not kick someone fallen. Having mercy on your defeated opponent is also part of chivalry. Nadir is done. He is destroyed. That letter he posted here is nothing but an admission of defeat. I challenged Prof. Michael Sells of the University of North Carolina and Prof. John Esposito, the editor in chief of the Oxford History of Islam to debate with me. They were wise enough to not respond even though several people wrote to them and asked them the same. They are not stupid. They just remained silent. Nadir is stupid. He should have remained silent when you challenged him. But the poor fellow comes forth with a list of absurd preconditions and thinks in this way he can have his cake and eat it too; i.e. he will avoid debate and save face too. Yes he has avoided the debate, but he made a total fool of himself.
I do not know what else you want to do with him. Here all of us attest that Nadir is finished, fully disgraced and humiliated. So leave him.
Now what you want him to do? Come and say yes I am defeated and humiliated? Of course he won’t do that. He does not have the integrity or the cajons to do such thing. You are demanding a small man to act with greatness. Is that reasonable? If you put this as a precondition to debate with us you too are making a demand that is impossible to meet.
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noora_dada
Joined: 20 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:37 pm Post subject: hehehe |
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hehehehe, thats so funny...a mental patient and kafir dogging up against nadir. sina, you were humiliated (http://www.examinethetruth.com/Challenge_Sina.htm). why dont you pick up the courage to defend yourself instead of being a cry baby? you have the bloody nose and the blood is still pooring!
bin loser is the worst. i know of not a single muslim website linking to him or having a good opinion of him. why is that? almost every muslim has shunned him. why? because he is believed to be a mental nut case in the muslim community.
while bin looser is welling to declare a murstad everyone, he runs to kafirs like sina and christians for assistance. clearly he has been a good service only to anti-islam forces, and a major cause of silly conflict among muslims. that is why no muslim links to him, or has good opinion about him.
when kafirs like sina and answering-islam join forces to attack someone, and an over aged mental idiot, bun looser, lends them a helping hand, thats enough proof for muslims who is genuine and fraudster conflict creator.
don't be fooled, SherKhan, sbws, Abd al-Haqq are one and the same person = bin loser.
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al-Mujaadil as-Siddiq
Joined: 16 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Nadir is active and alive, today he posted his website link under subject:
"ExamineTheTruth.com RESPONDS to Answering Islam (ExamineTheTruth.com ) 9/20/2004"
at Osama Abdallah's message board.
But he is conveniently too busy to accept the challenge here. |
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al-Mujaadil as-Siddiq
Joined: 16 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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under normal circumstances, I would ignore this challenge, because anyone who knows Shahid bin Wahid, knows, that he is a mentally sick person. The challenge itself is foolish. I dont know of a single Muslim on the internet who supports this loner, or even has a sinlge good thing to say about him!!!
But since Shahid Bin Loser is flashing some cash, he got my interest..
Here are my requirments which I will have to insist on for this video "thing":
1. We will do it in Florida keys, the commerse can help out the devastation.
2. you will need to make accomidations at a 4 or 5 star hotel, of my choice.
3. Air accomidations must be made by Shahid: Round trip tickets for both me and my wife, for 4 days.
4. We will also need a car for those 4 days.
5. I will waive any personal fee of my own.
If Shahid does not meet even one requirment, then that proves that he is bluffing, and there is NO $1000 dollars, and I then put him on ignore. So dont waste my time Shahid.
thanks,
Nadir Ahmed
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You are a coward man, why don't you come deal with the challenge? |
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al-Mujaadil as-Siddiq
Joined: 16 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: hehehe |
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| noora_dada wrote: |
hehehehe, thats so funny...a mental patient and kafir dogging up against nadir. sina, you were humiliated (http://www.examinethetruth.com/Challenge_Sina.htm). why dont you pick up the courage to defend yourself instead of being a cry baby? you have the bloody nose and the blood is still pooring!
bin loser is the worst. i know of not a single muslim website linking to him or having a good opinion of him. why is that? almost every muslim has shunned him. why? because he is believed to be a mental nut case in the muslim community.
while bin looser is welling to declare a murstad everyone, he runs to kafirs like sina and christians for assistance. clearly he has been a good service only to anti-islam forces, and a major cause of silly conflict among muslims. that is why no muslim links to him, or has good opinion about him.
when kafirs like sina and answering-islam join forces to attack someone, and an over aged mental idiot, bun looser, lends them a helping hand, thats enough proof for muslims who is genuine and fraudster conflict creator.
don't be fooled, SherKhan, sbws, Abd al-Haqq are one and the same person = bin loser.
noora dada. |
This message is screaming itself that this character "noora dada" is no other than Nadir Ahmed the COWARD. He couldn't even concealed himself.
What difference does it make if "SherKhan, sbws, Abd al-Haqq are one and the same person = bin loser", why don't you come out of closet swinging your sword of Islam and slaughter them all. Let them fall on your sword of Islam. Why are you on the run? |
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gupsfu
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:59 am Post subject: Re: hehehe |
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| noora_dada wrote: |
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We know who you are. You're just making a fool of yourself.
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Scott
Joined: 15 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:35 am Post subject: |
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am I the only one who finds all these pseudonym posts from muslims beyond supidity?
I guess it convinces the morons of islam... but anyone else?
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gupsfu
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:14 am Post subject: |
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It's fun to expose more of their stupidity.
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Scott
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:23 am Post subject: |
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and tiring...
I think this should be part of the faq -- the fake account / pseudonym
Scott
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Ali Sina
Joined: 13 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| This message is screaming itself that this character "noora dada" is no other than Nadir Ahmed the COWARD. He couldn't even concealed himself. |
I was just going to write the same thing.
This man is a joke. 
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Scott
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:20 am Post subject: |
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Ali --
why do all these muslims have to "challenge" someone to a debate (and then throw in all these stupid conditions?)
I get so tired of hearing about peace talks...
wasn't there a problem with some of the initial talks in iraq because people couldn't agree on some table cloth or the direction the table faced?
it will all boil down to definitions of words and the unscrupulous will just play word games in the end.
Oh, we agree to a case fire unless attacked, well someone looked at us the wrong way -- so we were provoked... so it was JUSTIFIED.... and then when you retaliated, that was UNJUSTIFIED because our attack WAS JUSTIFIED.
blah blah blah... bullsh!t.
Look at Iran and the nukes stuff. We're talking about people pissing over some insane dude from the 6th century and trying to interpret divine words that are so clear they don't need interpretation -- and here's a country that is going nuclear that can't even figure out what a word means.
Scott
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Chris_Berg
Joined: 21 Sep 2004
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| It appears that Ali Sina is a bit desperate here. He is looking to Shahid Bin Wahid to do what he could not do - defeat Nadir. I think we can all agree here that Ali Sina was humiliated by Nadir Ahmed, and because of that, he is investing heavily in Shahid Bin Wahid to regain his lost dignity. But I do not believe Shahid is the right man for the job. I also dont believe that Nadir is the 'teflon Don' that others have made him out to be. But the problem with Shahid, is that he is viewed as a person who is not mentally stable in his own Islamic community. It is true, that Shahid has virtually no Islamic supporters, and very few people link to him. His articles are very confusing and do not amount to anything more than his own opinions. Because of this, he is viewed as a great disapointment by Muslims. Ali Sina is going to have to do better than to let loose a mad man shouting debate challenges at Nadir to defeat him. Nadir, most likely, is very selective in whom he debates. Shahid is simply not the answer. |
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SherKhan
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NOORA DADA aka NADIR AHMED
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| SherKhan, sbws, Abd al-Haqq are one and the same person = bin loser |
FYI, sbws and I live in two different poles. I believe sbws is a Muslim, despite his belief he seems to be a decent person.
Meanwhile, with due respect to sbws as a person and not to his faith, I feel very offended when some one still calls me a Muslim. Ex-Muslim is OK. So, please don’t equate me with a Muslim.
I know you from the old-old forum. Your annoying and bizarre comments may not be considered as debate anyway.
If you are interested in so-called debate with sbsw, then why not take Ali Sina’s offer and confront sbws in a special thread, where no one else will interfere.
If you fail to challenge sbws, I suggest, you take down your funky website, go to Mecca, perform hajj and stay rest of your life inside of the huge black dice. |
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Scott
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:46 am Post subject: |
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chris berg.. nice JEWISH name?
oh, first post... trashes ali....
hit'n'run ... see faq #1
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gupsfu
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:52 am Post subject: |
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But he'll be back, with another name.
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