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Is being too emotional really a flaw for woman?
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sylla7801



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy has a point to an extent because women are more likely to act out on their emotions, and everyone knows that from daily life. Men in stresful, emotional situations will usually try to have an excuse before doing something whereas the female will be more likely go headlong. For example in a fight between two guys, all you see for a long time is the guys squaring up in a stance talking sh!t to each other. This is because they know that if someone swings first, then they can go and say it was self defense. That happens until someone just doesn't care and starts fighting. In a female fight, the women don't just get all close to each other talking sh!t,but they explode at each other. Another example, when you see a guy and a woman having an arguement, it is usually the female that is dictating the conversation and yelling at the guy the whole time, while the guy is just trying to back away most of the time. this isn't to say that women are stupid compared to men, cause in most situations they think stuff through, but when they get under pressure, they're more likely to fall
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what NONSENSE sylla....again your brainwashing controls you "level of intellect" which is not very high at all.

Why do you think islam and muslim males PROVABLY FEAR women....it's because they know that woman have such strengths and integrity, so by evil teachings and conditioning they "force" women to be in a position where they are controlled (by fear), and actually teach males that it is their right to beat, harm, and oppress them.

this is islam....unbelievable.

The world of your ummah "fears" two small women.....Hirsi Ali and Wafa Sultan.....and as Hirsi says, (in her tireless effort to improve the pain and misery of your muslim women) that no male has been able to call her a liar, and not one has been able to refute her....BUT THEY WANT HER DEAD and they dont want any improvements for these harmed lives....look at what the religious leaders insisted on in Pakistan, and how very telling that was!!!

So tell me sylla, do muslim males have any real strengths at all....I say they are weak little wimps, devoid of conscience, and without balls.

Any human being would believes that because of a pedophile and his hoax and egotistical commands you males have had the right to cause so much harm to so many millions of innocent victims PROVES what weak gutless little boys you are!!!

So come on sylla....tell us more about your robotic preprogrammed thoughts and why dont you also add "but islam respects and reveres women lol"!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The guy has a point to an extent because women are more likely to act out on their emotions, and everyone knows that from daily life. Men in stresful, emotional situations will usually try to have an excuse before doing something whereas the female will be more likely go headlong

Unlike women whose excuses are considered irrelavnt to you?
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For example in a fight between two guys, all you see for a long time is the guys squaring up in a stance talking sh!t to each other. This is because they know that if someone swings first, then they can go and say it was self defense.

Funny you should say that, I know a group of people in history that provoked, insulted and proded entire tribes of people so much until those people were forced to swing and then those provokers cried "foul, it was self defense!" And there is a group of people today that continue to insist it was simply "self defense". Just typical male behaviour you say? Interesting.
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In a female fight, the women don't just get all close to each other talking sh!t,but they explode at each other.


Confident woman are not much for playing games. There is a job to be done, let's get it done. Agreed. Perhaps if men did more of this rational thinking instead of letting their emotions take hold, waiting for the time to be right so they can cry "victim"! ...
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while the guy is just trying to back away most of the time. this isn't to say that women are stupid compared to men, cause in most situations they think stuff through, but when they get under pressure, they're more likely to fall
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So your now saying men are afraid to engage, and woman are the ones able to take charge...and you think that is a failing?

sylla7801,
this whole post of yours sorta dismisses the whole islamic train of thought on woman. You make us sound like sure battle ready warriors. I would much rather have the woman you describe defend me than the wishy washy men you have decribed. Apparently allah did get woman all wrong.
I feel compelled to add this disclaimer...the men in my life are not the spineless victims you dipicted. They are honorable. So are the woman in my life. Not sure what is going on in the lives of the people you know, but I can only imagine what it is that compells them to behave as such.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1.I'm talking about the fact that if you fight, you are going to get in trouble, so males will usually try to make it look like they were just defending themselves s othey won't get in trouble, and alot of times this method kepps them from fighting. Females don't give a crap when they're fighting, they go ballistic.

2.You mean the JEws picking on the Palestinians and the Palestinians fighting back, and the Jews trying to make themselves look noble.

3.No it's smarter to at first let everyone to see that the other guy swung first, so when they're asked they can say that the guy was defending himself.

4.No I'm saying men will try and look at the right time to engage where they can maximize damage on their opponent while minimizing trouble for themselves
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. You mean they are not really fighters by nature, just liars?
2. Nope, I am referring to what happened in Mecca 1400 years ago. Funny you should bring up the Jews though, seems you agree they have been victimized for quite some time.
3. See number 1 and listen to Kenny Roger's "Coward of the County" for some easy entertainment.
4. Like when they beat their wives behind closed doors?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're spamming, whiner.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Is being too emotional really a flaw for woman? Reply with quote

A problem is that men and women are supposed to be segregated in Islam. Then men are supposed to be leaders. So men are supposed to decide on women's rights without really understanding the female perspective. Similarly, muslims are supposed to stay away from non-muslims and just have muslim leaders. But when muslim leaders relate to non-muslim's lives, they don't understand them.
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One of the challenges of developing a great society is to get quality leaders. Presumably, such a question could be answered by an all-knowing allah. Being muslim and male does not automatically qualify one to be a quality leader.
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If we want to discuss a person that has emotional needs, maybe we should start with the need of the quranic author to be obeyed, and his personal self-esteem and his need to have people believe in him.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think men can be just as emotional as women in some circumstances, maybe even more so. If I were to venture a guess as to why most leaders throughout history have been men, I'd say it's because men have a different kind of logic than women. I notice this a lot when I talk to women. It's like this feeling that logic seems secondary to emotion for them. It's hard to describe.

I think we all agree that most women are really bad drivers, and I think this might have something to do with this subject. Maybe they were just programmed to be better than men at some things and worse than men at other things. Yesterday alone I had a few close calls because of women drivers.

I personally don't think that all women are incapable of being leaders, in fact, I think that if one has the qualifications to be a good one, why not make her one? But I think that men on average are better suited for the roles of leaders than women.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But I think that men on average are better suited for the roles of leaders than women.

We could argue about this point all day giving anecdotal evidences and we would still only be arguing generalities. But obviously, leaders are not chosen by some hand reaching down and swooping up a random portion of the male population. Being a leader is an expression of your own individual will, and in your personal talents. In other words, the assumed tiny capable portion of the female population who'd make good leaders should not be barred of reaching their potential, based on the idea that they are a minority among women.
I think that even bigots who hold reservations about female leaders based on generalities would agree that that is a logical position to give women the same opportunities and encouragement as men, then natural leaders from among both groups will arise and then, whether or not it is then uncommon for women to take on that role would not be an issue.
I think in the end, we are all individuals and vary from one to the next.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orenda,
I am glad you revived this thread. I reread through it with a fresh set of eyes.


Couple of things Skywalker,

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I think we all agree that most women are really bad drivers, and I think this might have something to do with this subject. Maybe they were just programmed to be better than men at some things and worse than men at other things.

Woman being bad drivers is a myth. Insurance companies go on hard core statistics and guess what, they give woman drivers premium breaks. They don't do this cause they like woman, they do this cause statistically, woman are involved in less accidents. I will agree with you that that statistic is dwindling, but the stats are there none the less.

Skywalker:
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But I think that men on average are better suited for the roles of leaders than women.


If that was true, men would be in charge of the children. What more important leadership role is there? I get your on average, arguement, but I find that arguement is flawed due to a variety of reasons. The first being, give birth to and mother 13 kids and see if you even care about ridiculus arguements such as who's church is being built where. It's a matter of perspective and having the time and luxury to referee such matters. The role of leadership is not an easy one, but to say one needs a penis to do it, and having a vagina negates your abilities to do it, makes no sense as to determining the best of the best leaders.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kat. I dont really believe women are more emotional than men, they experience different levels of emotion. Some men cry more than some women and vice a versa. Some women can be emotionless than some men.

But to label all women as being too emotional is wrong. It is a ploy by Muslims to have control over women, its an excuse. It is ingrained in Islam that women are inferior so you wouldnt expect anything less from Muslims.
And yet without women there would be no life, and they have soo little respect for women.

If men are soo perfect at making decisions then why does society have soo many problems. The majority of decision makers are men after all.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and cherry blossom....emotions are not just the healthy release of crying, but also love, hate, anger - so women dont have the monopoly on emotions.

In another country where I lived we had a politician mocking a woman because she "wept" about a really sad situation occurring, yet he had no problems with a fellow poli who "punched a hole in the wall in anger".

This islamic junk about emotions is nothing more than another lie, a ploy to continue their degradation and oppression of women, and to control - nothing more!!! And those with some intellect know it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good ole times
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