Is being too emotional really a flaw for woman?

[katlike]

In the thread: Egypt - women judges "Un-Islamic" http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38361,

Rand posted a Q&A from a muslim website.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=3285&ln=eng&txt=judge%20women

It is about the role of woman as leaders.

[Huston]

Looking to Jungian psychology, the use and expression of emotion is mainly used with what is called the feeling function. While most women have this function, it is believed the Bill Clinton, and Osama Bin Laden have this function as well. Of course, women are socialized to be this and men that, so men with feeling won't be as noticable and women with thinking (the opposite of feeling) won't be as noticable.

It is most likely the Bush is a feeling type. Bush Sr. being a thinker. Perhaps Hitler was also a feeler, along with Jesus, and Gandhi
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[katlike]

Huston,
I so agree with what you are saying. I find it silly to say "men are able to rule with logic and rationality while woman are too emotional to be in charge" when the reality is, men are just as prone to emotions. Isn't it emotions that make us human? Maybe they are forced to show only the "right" emotions (whatever that is suppose to mean). I am tired of hearing the muslim rationale that woman are too "emotional" and this is seen as a character flaw, I cannot see how this is a flaw, nor can I see how it is only women who succumb (is that the correct word?) to these "emotions".
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[Huston]

[gonzophilosopher]

Hi Katlike,

While I agree that emotions are a natural part of every human being, I do strongly believe that decisions - especially those made by political leaders and more especially judges - must be made based on objective evidence and not "feelings" (or subjective evidence). I would not trust any leader who made crucial decisions based on their emotions.

However there is absolutely no reason to suppose that women are more likely to base such decisions on emotions and feelings than men are. And as for the ridiculous notion that women are not suited to the role of leadership I have only 2 words to say: Margaret Thatcher.

Best Regards,
Gonzo
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[katlike]

Hi gonzophilosopher!
I havent seen you around lately, it's real good to hear from you! You said:

[gonzophilosopher]

Hi Katlike,

Nice to see you too

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[katlike]

[MsWesterner]

calling women emotional for being either sensitive or feeling for others is too simplistic.

there are lots of emotions.

one sees males assuming that if a woman may have a weep about something, she is emotional and they portray it as weak when it is isnt......and the same male may be the very one to throw something at someone, or punch a hole in the wall....and thats emotion also!!!!

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[Valkyrianna]

Through observing muslim women and reading their rantings about their men for years I see that islam creates women who are emotional basket-cases. To make a judgement you need to trust in yourself and your own ability to think for yourself and others. Muslim women are powerless. Their men are emotionally damaged, but posess power from top positions to those who exercise power just within the home.

The silence-treatment is most usually used as a means of a muslim male in trumphing his way through.Unable to identifying and explaining to his wife a feeling he have to resort to keeping his mouth shut. Most dont though, but some do adhere to islamic adab and keep their pie-holes clamped until the wife has submitted to whatever.
A wife scared of divorce or a cowife, being beraved of her children in the event of a divorce and unable to support herself in such a case becomes unable to make decisions but will cling on to whatever for dear life. She knows her sisters predicaments too and know that the grass is just as brown on the other side.

Muslim women resort to playing games in interacting with their men. Whenever trouble arises in a muslim home the woman is told sabr sabr, duah duah and to try to appease her husband. As a Kafira I would be ashamed to deal with my husband in such a manor. I would be packing the bags of a man who was never tought to deal with his feelings faster then he could say "emotial criple".
I have never seen men in my country, or any western country display such embarrasing emotional outcries as muslim men. Not speaking of in their homes, but on the streets.Is hatred not a feeling? Is anger not a feeling? I see muslim men crying, shouting, using extreme violence and threats of them. These are all displays of emotions, severely disturbed ones. Islam creates emotionally disturbed people. Emotions are not just positives. In my part of the world I do however see men display emotions on a daily basis. Positive emotions. Sympathy and empathy, in a sweet, kind and loving way.
Sympathy and empathy may be womens domain worldwide, correct me if I am wrong, but this fact does not make them bad decisionmakers. You don`t have to be a Thatcher to be a good leader. A good leader should have sympathy and empathy as he or she is in charge of the well-fare of others.
A judge must weigh mitigating circumstances for the perpetrator and the feelings of the victims family. As multitasking is not the males best domain, you could argue that women are better suited at a judges job

The man in islam is the imam of the family and financially and decisionally responsible for the family unit. One good indication that women are better decisionmakers then men and the islamic ideal is a flwa is the experience of several aid-agencies.
Instead of giving men power to distribute money as they please, they directly support the women of the area in developing better living-conditions for their families making the whole society to thrive. This has been a huge success and more and more money is targeted directly at women.
However, back to the matter. The system of islam, the way muslim children are brought up segment stereotypes of gender-roles. I would rather not be in front of a muslim female judge whos mind is on the 5th day of her husbands silent-treatment, the 1674th of such tactics, her contemplating divorce as he last night finally spoke and said he was getting another wife and worrying about wether she will get married again and if she will get to keep her children. But in all fairness, I would not like to be judged by a muslim in any case
But I would not go wheeeheee, I got a female judge in the western system. As professionals I am afraid that both females and males who took on the daunting task of studying law, practicing it and finally landing a judges job are be able to lay away their personal worries out of work, just as I have to do when I enter the office. A female judge is not a "get out of jail" card in my world. She is a wildcard just as her male co-workers. Lest someone can give some statistics here that female judges give lower sentences then their male counterparts?

What I do know for sure is that muslim male judges give the most horrific, nauxiating and inhuman sentences.

[katlike]

Very good points both Gonzo and Valkyrianna.
I think the point that the term emotional is ambiguous is what offends me the most.
Gonzo:

[Valkyrianna]

To add to your arguments I would also look into male/female brain-patterns. A male does not necissarily have an intirely male-patterened brain and vice versa. The islamic claim proposes that the male/female bran is a complete static, whereas the reality is that brains differ amongst individuals, but general studies show minor diffirences.
Males do have a larger preoptic area of the Hypothalamus, estimated at 2.2 %. This area deals with mating behavior. In what matter does a judge need a slightly higher urge to mate in order to qualify for the bench? The Suprachiasmatic Nucleus of the Hypothalamus is diffirent in shape and m a y send signals in the brain diffirently, this part also deals with mating, but again, where does the mating need of a judge come in as a factor in the case?


Neuroscience for kids - suitable for muslims

Gender and the brain suggests that genderroles have segmented the miniscular diffirences:

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