women in Islam

[kreuzglauber]

Girls: BEWARE
One of the cunning and sneaky tactics the Muslim promoters, is using to encourage Muslim young men to marry Christian girls.
Eventually the girl is brain washed and becomes a Muslim, or due to ignorance of both religions or as a result of poverty. The children will be Muslims.
I know of few incidents that Muslim young men go to our churches either as Christians or converted Christians from Islam, and try to get married to our girls.
The Lord Jesus warned of the wolves in the sheep’s cloths.
Some are caught and some are not.
The unlucky one who marries in Islam will face few nightmares:
- Islam considers the wife a sex object: “Your wives are as a tilth (a field to be ploughed) unto you, so approach your tilth when or how ye wilt.” Surah 2:223
- Islam allows polygamy: “Marry women of your choice, two, three or four..” Surah 4:3
- When a husband has pronounced 3 divorce times on his wife, he may not lawfully remarry her until she has married (and had sexual intercourse) and been divorced by another man called “al mohalil” (the legalizer). Surah 2:229 and 2:230
A wife has no such right.
- Men deserve double the share of women in inheritance surah 4:11, and the woman is considered only one half of the man in testimony before courts surah 2:282.
- Islam allows men to beat their wives and desert them in bed to discipline them.
- Women are deficient in intelligence and religion.
- Women are deficient in gratitude
- The woman is a toy: “The woman is a toy, whoever takes her let him care for her (or do not lose her).”
- “The woman is ‘awrah’. When she goes outside (the house), the devil welcomes her.”27
The encyclopedia of Islam defines ‘awrah’ as pudendum that is the external
genitals, especially of the females.
- Husband’s desire must be met at once: “The prophet of Allah said: when a man calls his wife to bed and she refuses, and then he passes the night in an anger mood, the angels curse her till she gets up at dawn.”19
“If a woman offered one of her breasts to be cooked and the other to be roasted, she still falls short of fulfilling her obligation to her husband. And besides that if she disobeys her husband even for a twinkle of an eye, she would be thrown in the lowest part of Hell, except she repents and turns back.”48
- The dowry is given in exchange for the woman’s sexual organs. 125 (Ibn Kathir)
- The support of the woman (nafaqa) is obligatory on the man in return for the woman being locked up in the man’s house, and for being exclusively his.135
- The most worthy condition you fulfill is one with which you were given the right to enjoy the (woman’s) private parts.115
- If a woman goes to an Islamic country with her husband, he (the husband) can take away her passport and she cannot leave the country without his permission.


SPRITUAL STANDING OF WOMEN
- “The virtuous wife, if her husband bids her, she obeys him; if he looks at her, she pleases him; if he gives her an oath, she fulfills it, and if he is absent from her, she guards herself and his property”.142 (ibn Magah)
- “When a woman comes she comes in the form of a devil.”145
And it is believed that the majority of them will end up in hell.
- “The prophet said: ‘I have not left any calamity (fitnah) after me more detrimental to men than women.”146 (Bukhari, Agreed upon)

If you think this material is unbelievable, please check the references for yourself as a great number of them have been translated into English.

[Ex-muslimah]

Thanks for the warning.......I've been hit on by muslims before as well....it's not worth it if you are meaningless!
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The Borg is si-fi's Islam. The "Collective" is the Ummah and they assimilate the kaffir.

*http://www.karmanirvana.org.uk/* - For if you are in a forced marriage in the UK

[kreuzglauber]

[MsWesterner]

yes.....I believe that nothing so evil and depraved will win - I contend that it will implode, and not all muslims are blind and stupid.

We are already seeing an escalation of the exposure of the nonsense and oppression, including the harm on millions of innocent victims.

There is a guy, ( I think German) who wants the koran to be "put before the courts" and that would be a very good thing.

[kreuzglauber]

[Ex-muslimah]

A woman in islam is meaningless.....all they are good for is kids and keeping the home.....
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The Borg is si-fi's Islam. The "Collective" is the Ummah and they assimilate the kaffir.

*http://www.karmanirvana.org.uk/* - For if you are in a forced marriage in the UK

[TheMadTurk]

[Ilovebetty]

[TheMadTurk]

[Ilovebetty]

[TheMadTurk]

[Ilovebetty]

Hello TMT

[AhmadK]

Defending Women in Islam:

Mothers:

Your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him, And that you be kind to parents. Whether one or both of them attain old age in your life, Say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, But address them in terms of honor. And out of kindness, Lower to them the wing of humility, and say: 'My Lord! bestow on them Your Mercy as they Cherished me in childhood' " (Quran 17:23-24).
The Quran in several other places puts special emphasis on the mother's great role in giving birth and nursing:
"And We have enjoined on man to be good to his parents: In travail upon travail did his mother bear him and in two years was his weaning. Show gratitude to Me and to your parents" (Quran 31:14).
The very special place of mothers in Islam has been eloquently described by Prophet Muhammad:
"A man asked the Prophet: 'Whom should I honor most?' The Prophet replied: 'Your mother'. 'And who comes next?' asked the man. The Prophet replied: 'Your mother'. 'And who comes next?' asked the man. The Prophet replied: 'Your mother!'. 'And who comes next?' asked the man. The Prophet replied: 'Your father'" (Bukhari and Muslim).

Your mother carried you for nine months and then struggled to feed you and stop you from crying in the middle of the night and busy times during the day. Why is it then that many people cant wait to move out of the house when they are 18. In muslim culture the family (usually one of the sons) takes care of the parents into old age. From Abu Hurayra, from the Prophet (SAW) that he said, "May he be disgraced and humiliated, may he be disgraced and humiliated, may he be disgraced and humiliated." They said, "who O Messenger of Allaah?" He said, "the one whose parents attain old age, or one of them, and he enters Hellfire (by not serving them). It is also said that paradise is under your mother’s foot. This is a metaphor of course saying that you should treat your mother with the utmost respect, if you wish to enter paradise.


Hijab:

Many people think that the Hijab is the head scarf worn by female Muslims. They claim this is degrading them etc. But in reality Hijab is modesty and believe it or not male Muslims also have a Hijab. Hijab for women is covering their body with loose, Opaque (non see through) clothing, the only parts of the body which remain uncovered are the hands and face, but if they want those can be covered as well. There are some conditions the women doesn’t have to wear the head scarf infront of immediate family. The hijab of men: when a man sees a women he should lower his gaze, this if implemented by every man in the world accompanied by the (Islamic) punishment for rape, then the amount of rape in the world would be zero. The hijab is there to protect men and women. If a man sees a beautiful women he will be tempted, but if he lowers his gaze his lust will be lowered, his lust will also be lowered if he can not see the frame of the women. The hijab protects women from being harassed by men, walk through a mall you see men walking up to women making obscene gestures or comments, if all the women had the Hijab on then men wouldn’t be tempted, and if men had their hijab on the lust level will be low. God forgives the first glance of a man to a women, but not the second, third, forth etc. 1) A Muslim man must always be covered from the navel to the knees. 2) A Muslim man should similarly not wear tight, sheer, revealing, or eye-catching clothing. In addition, a Muslim man is prohibited from wearing silk clothing (except for medical reasons) or gold jewelry. A Muslim woman may wear silk or gold.

http://www.islam101.com/women/hijabfaq.html


Muslim men trying to steal christian women, haha, the verse cited allowing polygamy was taken out of context:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/polygamy.htm

[AhmadK]

Quran 4:24. This verse is reproduced in context with surrounding ayahs:

004.019

O ye who believe! YE ARE FORBIDDEN TO INHERIT WOMEN AGAINST THEIR WILL. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good.

004.020

But if ye decide to take one wife in place of another, EVEN IF YE HAD GIVEN THE LATTER A WHOLE TREASURE FOR DOWER, TAKE NOT THE LEAST BIT OF IT BACK: Would ye take it by slander and manifest wrong?

004.021

And how could ye take it when ye have gone in unto each other, and they have Taken from you a solemn covenant?

004.022

AND MARRY NOT WOMEN WHOM YOUR FATHERS MARRIED,- except what is past: It was shameful and odious,- an abominable custom indeed.

004.023

PROHIBITED TO YOU (FOR MARRIAGE) ARE:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-

004.024

ALSO (PROHIBITED ARE) WOMEN ALREADY MARRIED, except those whom your right hands possess [these are prisoners of war from jihad - Yusef Ali] : THUS HATH ALLAH ORDAINED (PROHIBITIONS) AGAINST YOU: EXCEPT FOR THESE, ALL OTHERS ARE LAWFUL, PROVIDED YE SEEK (THEM IN MARRIAGE) WITH GIFTS FROM YOUR PROPERTY, - DESIRING CHASTITY, NOT LUST, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, GIVE THEM THEIR DOWERS (AT LEAST) AS PRESCRIBED; BUT IF, AFTER A DOWER IS PRESCRIBED, AGREE MUTUALLY (TO VARY IT), THERE IS NO BLAME ON YOU, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.

004.025

If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess [these are prisoners of war from jihad - Yusef Ali]: And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: WED THEM WITH THE LEAVE OF THEIR OWNERS, AND GIVE THEM THEIR DOWERS, ACCORDING TO WHAT IS REASONABLE: THEY SHOULD BE CHASTE, NOT LUSTFUL, NOR TAKING PARAMOURS: WHEN THEY ARE TAKEN IN WEDLOCK, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


004.026

Allah doth wish to make clear to you and to show you the ordinances of those before you; and (He doth wish to) turn to you (In Mercy): And Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.


004.027

Allah doth wish to Turn to you, BUT THE WISH OF THOSE WHO FOLLOW THEIR LUSTS IS THAT YE SHOULD TURN AWAY (FROM HIM),- far, far away.

From these ayahs, it is apparent (1) A marriage contract must consist of more than an arrangement for satisfaction of lusts (Quran 4:24, 25, and 27); and (2) Quran 4:24 merely states that "all others are lawful," i.e. one may marry any partner to whom marriage is not otherwise prohibited in the Quran. It does not say mut’a is alright, and the ayah’s discussion of the dowery does not imply the legality of mut’a but merely recites the universal rule that the dowery contracted for cannot be reduced except by mutual agreement. See also Quran 4:19.

Moreover, any argument based on Quran 4:24 fails to address the fundamental incompatibility of mut’a with Quranic criteria for divorce. While Islam does not require OBJECTIVE proof of some fault such as "mental cruelty" or "adultery" as a precondition for divorce, the Quran makes it clear that there must be some BONA FIDE "disagreement," "incompatibility" or "conflict" between the spouses:

004.035

If ye fear a BREACH BETWEEN THEM TWAIN, appoint (two) arbiters, one from his family, and the other from hers; if they wish for peace, Allah will cause their reconciliation: For Allah hath full knowledge, and is acquainted with all things.



004.128

If a wife fears CRUELTY OR DESERTION ON HER HUSBAND'S PART, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

004.129

Ye are NEVER ABLE TO BE FAIR AND JUST AS BETWEEN WOMEN, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self-restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.



My understanding of "what your right hand possess" is that you are allowed to marry them not force them to be your sex slave, marriage in Islam requires the consent of the women.

[MsWesterner]

did you also mean consent of girls.....of course girls cannot give "informed consent", and on another thread I feel sure someone has posted verification that what you say about women and consent is not "the full story"!

I believe that in this islamic cult young children can be "married" still to this day.....little girls that is!!!!