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yeezevee
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 17109
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Kanad:.. I did my graduate work during the peak of Vietnam war. I have studied Vietnam war in as detail as one can do. .. |
I didn't realize that dear Kanad.. You are old enough to know what you write in the forum is NOT good, then why do you write like that in to this forum??
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Frodo Baggins

Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 3172 Location: Dar ul-Bacon
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't realize that dear Kanad.. You are old enough to know what you write in the forum is NOT good, then why do you write like that in to this forum?? |
Yeezevee is right. Sorry, but you do sound like a teenager sometimes. _________________ Do you know of any good links about Islam? Suggest them to me for the Internet Toolbox for Islam-critics, and inform me about links not working. |
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doubtless
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 6442
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Kanad,
vietnam war is a crime of the Anglo-Saxons? I assume you are using the anglo-saxons in the sense of an "english speaking gentile". Does that mean your are sparing the french, the spaniards, the portugese, the poles, the russians, etc. from the crimes against humanity? Are the original Anglo-Saxons of brittania included in your indictment or are they out of the loop as well?
Vietnam war happened because people were duped? People woke up when 50000 bag came back? When are people not duped? Would you care to name any group in power, anywhere, that has not yielded to the temptation of "duping" the people to present their particular viewpoint in the best light possible. You may have lived in USA and done your PhD in a US university but you have misread why the americans opposed the Vietnam war and what happened in USA in the late 60's.
Muslims are evil and so are the power hungry Anglo Saxons. So who are the pristine and pure people in the world according to Kanad?
I do admire your ability to be able to hold the opinions of a pimply faced snot nosed teenager ( as pointed out by the above two posters) with your senior years breathing down your neck. _________________ Ali Sina: "The truth is out there for those who want to see it. It is beyond doubt."
Rg Veda: "He who surveys it in the highest heaven; He surely knows - or maybe He does not!" |
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Kanad
Joined: 24 Apr 2004 Posts: 610
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: education |
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| As I said, next to Muslims Anglo-Saxons are the biggest criminals of the world. Prove me wrong. |
Hey Kanadji,
Lay off of Anglo-Saxons. I'm one who has turned to Hinduism and Buddhism, and I have many Indian friends and eat with them, etc. You should be friendly to people like me and encourage more of us to cross over to dharma.
The European colonialism was bad. All Europeans now agree with that. That's the difference with all the Muslims who still glorify Mohammed's conquests. Please live in the present.
You can criticize how Bush is fighting terrorists, but the important point is that he is fighting terrorists. You might get cynical and say that the West is in it for the oil, but I see a lot of oil wealth going to the Arab leaders if not the masses.
The Europeans (especially Anglo-Saxons) gave us many good things: democratic constitution, human and individual rights, science, industrial revolution and consequent elimination of poverty for a great many ordinary people, etc. If there is a problem today with democracy, it is that the politicians are for sale (in USA and India). But we can solve that with democracy, if enough people are enlightened.
We need to combine the political and scientific achievements of the West with the spiritual achievements of the East. Only then can we have a really good society. At least accept that the Westerners have been half-good and are natural allies against fanaticism. If you try to fight Europeans and Muslims, we all lose. And Indians have not been perfect either... |
Thanks for your two posts.
I love to write agianst Islam and Muslims. I have said many a time that to me there is no difference between Islam and Muslims. I do not intend to pick up a quarrel agianst the Anglo-Saxons. But the threads sometimes force me to make some comments against Anglo-Saxons.
I also have nothing against the modern Jews. I as a matter of fact I admire them highly. In modern world Jews are the most harmless people.
I wish India and Israel work more in unision to fight Islam and Muslims.
But Christians(not all Christians) are a different breed. After decades of proselytization of the NorthEast India's Mongoloid peoples by the Anglo-Saxon Christians, those Mongoloid Indians are now demanding independent Christian countries in Northeast India. They must be eradicated. South Indian Christians are just beginning to heat up. Hindus must keep them under control. Most of these proselytization in India are being carried out of Anglo-Saxon headquarters. Mother Teresa was a freak accident.
Let us fight Islam and Muslims. deplete the head count down to half a billion during the next fifty years.
BTW, are you the same Ben I communicate with in another site using a different name.? _________________ BANNED FOR CALLS TO GENOCIDE |
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crazy canuck
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 6391
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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For Kanad:
Now I understand why you use term Anglo-Saxon. In late sixties, during vietnam protest, black rage, that was the tem used to describe villians or culprits so far racism was concrened in U.S.
While talking about foreign wars, capitalism , neoclonialism appropriate term can be western civilization, western democracies, EU countries, North Americans, US citizens etc.. Just by living in this continent we all enjoy fruits of western capitalism or exploitation of third world countries if you see it that way.
US is no more Anglo-Saxon country. Immigrants of other countries like Cubans, Jewish population, Indians from India, Spanish and others influence foreign policy of U.S. In a decade or so south west may become spanish majority region. Anglo-saxons now dont influence immigration policy in california, Mexican origin us citizens practically dictate it because of their voting power. Same way in India, people of West Bengal and communist welcome musim Bangladeshi, while people from other parts hate them.
Also Arab money can and does influence US foreign policy.
Even on this forum ,we need to use correct or appropriate qualifyers. |
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Kanad
Joined: 24 Apr 2004 Posts: 610
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: writing |
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| Kanad:.. I did my graduate work during the peak of Vietnam war. I have studied Vietnam war in as detail as one can do. .. |
I didn't realize that dear Kanad.. You are old enough to know what you write in the forum is NOT good, then why do you write like that in to this forum??
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I do those writings for fun, ezeeve. However, I am one who knows that Christianity_islam is at the root of many many problems. They must be eliminated from the face of the earth. Christianity is based on total falsehood however good some of the teachings of Christianity may be. Islam is a religion for maggots and it must be exterminated.
I gave some indications of real me in the thread "evolution of mankind ..." under miscellaneous topic.
I know Islam and Muslims well enough so that I can make those comments on Islam and Muslims.
Writing in websites is not writing a Ph.D. thesis. One has to be succint and must convey the message one wants to convey.
You saw my writings on Mother Teresa. Writings in website should not be too long. Your readers will lose interest. You should have noticed that I have elicited more angry responses for my comments than anyone else. I want it that way. They call me names. That is fine. If one can not withstand namecalling, one should stay out of web discussion group. It does not bother me at all. Just let me write whatever I want to write. You should have noticed I do not attack anyone personally unless I am provoked.
Cyberite is my favorite. If I ever get the chance I will marry her and go to heaven together. What do you say, cyberite? _________________ BANNED FOR CALLS TO GENOCIDE |
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Humanist
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 8520 Location: Kentucky, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Education |
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[quote="Kanad
I hate to discuss personal matters. Since you question about my educational background, I will give you my background. Not only did I go to Graduate School in one of the top level universities in Eastern US, I did my Ph.D. in one of Natural Sciences . And I taught in two US universities at undergraduate level for many years. After that I switched career and went into Librarianship. Believe it or not I was a librarian in one of the major libraries of Harvard University.
I did my graduate work during the peak of Vietnam war. I have studied Vietnam war in as detail as one can do. By all honest accounts Vietnam War was a crime that Americans(Anglo-Saxon) committed on a harmless agrarian country. To do that Americans were duped into believing that they were fighting cummunist demons and they were fitghing to protect American National interests and pride. Only after 50000 plastic body bags came back to USA did the Americans begin to realize that they were duped. American power structure dropped more bombs on that poor, agrarian society than the total tonnage of bombs Allied Forces dropped on Hitler's Germany! Read up on Allende's Chile. Again Americans committed a heinous crime there. Those Americans were not Afro-Americans, Chinese or Japanese Americans. They all came from Anglo-Saxon stock.
Inspite of all the good things that Anglo-Saxons have been doing for humanity for hundreds of years we simply can not overlook the criminal aspect of Anglo-Saxon thought processes. These thought processes did not develop in 1954. They have evolved over thousand years. They will continue well into future.[/quote]
Well, Kanan you are far better educated than I am. While you were getting educated about Viet Nam, a bunch of us Americans were there. But we were all Anglos? I did not realize that. I wonder why the majority of American soldiers in Viet Nam thought there buddies were Afro-Americans? I suppose they were just Anglos dressed up as blacks.
I sure hope your US education was paid for by your Indian government or your parents, because I would hate to think that the US paid for your education. Usually US schools do not turn out bigots like you.
Plus you are telling me that Harvard University did not have all the original books on Communism? Do you expect me to believe that. _________________ "Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell |
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Kanad
Joined: 24 Apr 2004 Posts: 610
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Education |
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[quote="Kanad
I hate to discuss personal matters. Since you question about my educational background, I will give you my background. Not only did I go to Graduate School in one of the top level universities in Eastern US, I did my Ph.D. in one of Natural Sciences . And I taught in two US universities at undergraduate level for many years. After that I switched career and went into Librarianship. Believe it or not I was a librarian in one of the major libraries of Harvard University.
I did my graduate work during the peak of Vietnam war. I have studied Vietnam war in as detail as one can do. By all honest accounts Vietnam War was a crime that Americans(Anglo-Saxon) committed on a harmless agrarian country. To do that Americans were duped into believing that they were fighting cummunist demons and they were fitghing to protect American National interests and pride. Only after 50000 plastic body bags came back to USA did the Americans begin to realize that they were duped. American power structure dropped more bombs on that poor, agrarian society than the total tonnage of bombs Allied Forces dropped on Hitler's Germany! Read up on Allende's Chile. Again Americans committed a heinous crime there. Those Americans were not Afro-Americans, Chinese or Japanese Americans. They all came from Anglo-Saxon stock.
Inspite of all the good things that Anglo-Saxons have been doing for humanity for hundreds of years we simply can not overlook the criminal aspect of Anglo-Saxon thought processes. These thought processes did not develop in 1954. They have evolved over thousand years. They will continue well into future. |
Well, Kanan you are far better educated than I am. While you were getting educated about Viet Nam, a bunch of us Americans were there. But we were all Anglos? I did not realize that. I wonder why the majority of American soldiers in Viet Nam thought there buddies were Afro-Americans? I suppose they were just Anglos dressed up as blacks.
I sure hope your US education was paid for by your Indian government or your parents, because I would hate to think that the US paid for your education. Usually US schools do not turn out bigots like you.
Plus you are telling me that Harvard University did not have all the original books on Communism? Do you expect me to believe that.[/quote]
My education in the US university was all paid for by the University I was studying in. But not for free. I was a half-time Research Assistant. They paid me enough so that I could have my own apartment, some hamburgers, and hotdogs , a few cans of beer as well as mainting a small Plymouth Valiant car. I could even go to Mahattan, N.Y. in some weekends to watch some shows in Broadway. I spent a few dollars to watch a few pornographic peep shows in 42nd Street.
Look I am fully aware of the good things that Anglo-Saxon world has brought to this world. India has benefitted tremendouly from the English people. But there is another criminal side of Anglo-Saxon thought processes . That is what I am talikng about. You do not seem to give much importance to the fact that over 50000 Americans lost their lives in Vietnam for nothing.
Modern world is a playground of the Anglo-Saxons. Modern Anglo-Saxons include all Wester Europeans, even Spaniards and Porteugese and Italians. One can write epics on the evolution of Anglo-Saxon thought processes which has been going on for thousand years. That thought processes will continue to control world envents for many centuries to come. I do not know Eastern European history well enough to be able to comment as to where they fit in this scheme.
I know Black Americans well enough to write intelligently about the relationships that Black Americans and White Americans have. Relationships that Black and White Americans displayed on fields in Vietnam were not based on reality. Go to inner city areas in any US city and you will understand what the Black and White relations in US are even today. _________________ BANNED FOR CALLS TO GENOCIDE |
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crazy canuck
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 6391
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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In those protest days correct terminology was WASP power structure. WHITE ANGLO SAXON PROTESTANTS. But now many in power are whites of cathilic Irish and Italian descent. For this reason loos like WASP term is discarded. As immigration changes the power structure we have to revise the terminology.
US citizens likes to think that their country is totally egalitarian where blacks, spanish, whites all participate on equal footings.They get mad even if you remind that it was not the case a generation ago. |
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Kanad
Joined: 24 Apr 2004 Posts: 610
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject: Anglo-Saxons |
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In those protest days correct terminology was WASP power structure. WHITE ANGLO SAXON PROTESTANTS. But now many in power are whites of cathilic Irish and Italian descent. For this reason loos like WASP term is discarded. As immigration changes the power structure we have to revise the terminology.
US citizens likes to think that their country is totally egalitarian where blacks, spanish, whites all participate on equal footings.They get mad even if you remind that it was not the case a generation ago. |
Yes the Latins(Italians, Spaniards, Potueges) were not involved in shaping the modern world. They soon realized that they had to join hands with the Abglo-Saxons if they wanted to have any say in the world affairs. They are fervently doing that now. So my definition of Anglo-Saxons include all Western Europeans although they were originally Northern Europeans. Both the Latins and the Anglo-saxons were respopnsible for instituting the modern institution of colonianism. They might have learned the techniques from the Greeks and the Romans. I am not trying to absolve the non-Europeans of their follies in controlling their National lives. They just were not upto the trickeries of the Anglo-Saxons supported by their fire power.
I do not know how closely you know the rural whites of America and Canada. To them all nonwhite, non-Europeans are just "~" in the most derogatory sense you can imagine even today. It is not in the sense that I use the term to describe Muslims.
There is no solution to the problem that I have alluded to in near future. Because the non-whites of the world are very underdeveloped. Japan has gotten out of the mess. Chinese are trying get out of the mess. Rest of the world are just ~ to the Anglo-Saxons. I am not crying. Such is life. I just hope Anglo-Saxons will be put in their proper place under the sun as soon as possible. _________________ BANNED FOR CALLS TO GENOCIDE |
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Benjamin
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 14
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: cruelty |
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| It is far wiser to cultivate the benevolent side of Christianity for the time being. And eventually, like Thoreau and Emerson, more and more Christians will naturally 'graduate' to a dharmic view of reality. |
I think that the "benevolent side" of christianity is the same benevolence that was actually preached by Christ, which apparently is a "dharmic view of reality".
I have not seen any recorded instruction from Christ to form religions, engage or practice rituals, or mass-prayer, or to build temples.
True christianity is a state of being. |
Agreed. Christianity got off the tracks when it became the official religion of the Roman Empire under Constantine. It then became a political instrument, as Islam was since day one. The Christians were actually more Christian in the early days when they were being eaten by lions!
Also, I agree that Jesus' message had more to do with the inner spirit ('The Kingdom of Heaven is within you') then all the crucifixion stuff. (I hope they don't crucify me for this! ) |
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Benjamin
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 14
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: education |
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| Kanad wrote: |
| BTW, are you the same Ben I communicate with in another site using a different name.? |
No, that was someone else.
I too wish India's territorial integrity to be preserved, so that it can defend itself from the wolves surrounding it. The last 1000 years of invasion must never be repeated. I say this not based on personal ties to Indians but because of my admiration of Indian religions and philosophies, which are the most enlightened, at least at the educated level. (I am not so familiar with popular Hinduism, so I have no opinion there.)
The tolerance of Hinduism is perhaps too real. I have the hardest time getting the Hindus I know to criticize Islam as a whole. For them, terrorists are always bad individuals.
But I will say this. The damned terrorists started it in Gujarat with setting the train on fire. Yet revenge against innocents cannot be allowed, if that is what happened. So I am disturbed by allegations that the Gujarat government stood back and let it happen. I don't know if this is true, since I distrust much of the press. I just want to insist that our anger at terrorism must not go to our heads. We must remain civilized and deal with it properly, whatever that might be. |
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Benjamin
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 14
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: Regarding Islam in Iran today |
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| Welcome aboard Ben |
Thanks for the welcome, Shima.
I agree with what you said.
I am still trying to figure out why there is 'ayatollah' under your name.  |
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piggy
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 6372 Location: Godwana
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Regarding Islam in Iran today |
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| Benjamin wrote: |
| shima wrote: |
| Welcome aboard Ben |
Thanks for the welcome, Shima.
I agree with what you said.
I am still trying to figure out why there is 'ayatollah' under your name.  |
Ben,
The titles under the user-names are generated by the software and are ranked according to number of posts by the user. |
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crazy canuck
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 6391
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: Anglo-Saxons |
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| Kanad wrote: |
| crazy canuck wrote: |
In those protest days correct terminology was WASP power structure. WHITE ANGLO SAXON PROTESTANTS. But now many in power are whites of cathilic Irish and Italian descent. For this reason loos like WASP term is discarded. As immigration changes the power structure we have to revise the terminology.
US citizens likes to think that their country is totally egalitarian where blacks, spanish, whites all participate on equal footings.They get mad even if you remind that it was not the case a generation ago. |
Yes the Latins(Italians, Spaniards, Potueges) were not involved in shaping the modern world. They soon realized that they had to join hands with the Abglo-Saxons if they wanted to have any say in the world affairs. They are fervently doing that now. So my definition of Anglo-Saxons include all Western Europeans although they were originally Northern Europeans. Both the Latins and the Anglo-saxons were respopnsible for instituting the modern institution of colonianism. They might have learned the techniques from the Greeks and the Romans. I am not trying to absolve the non-Europeans of their follies in controlling their National lives. They just were not upto the trickeries of the Anglo-Saxons supported by their fire power.
I do not know how closely you know the rural whites of America and Canada. To them all nonwhite, non-Europeans are just "~" in the most derogatory sense you can imagine even today. It is not in the sense that I use the term to describe Muslims.
There is no solution to the problem that I have alluded to in near future. Because the non-whites of the world are very underdeveloped. Japan has gotten out of the mess. Chinese are trying get out of the mess. Rest of the world are just ~ to the Anglo-Saxons. I am not crying. Such is life. I just hope Anglo-Saxons will be put in their proper place under the sun as soon as possible. |
Things have changed. Now even in rural NC or all over US there are lots of Mexicans. In Canada there is no overt racism in rural areas, sometime it can be found in urban areas, but in Western Canada things are not that bad.
If you try to look for it you will find lots of it. There are now laws to deal with it.
This is anti Islam forum, so there can be many who will express overt racism. Even your own language is often full of racism. Because of your penis chopping philosophy, no one will take you seriously. Sometime I worry about your true mental state.
Now I know better you do it to get raise from people or attract attention. |
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