The prophet Marriage with Zaynab.

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Hi to everybody, i put this question at the forum "Mohamed" and i wanna put here too, i wish the members can help me to understand this situation.

I need to understand something: why do the people, not few, but lots, say as this member, that (i just catched his post as exemple, couse i really read it many times):

Ali Baba wrote:
"Zaynab, the wife of zaid, mohammeds adopted son and Mohammeds daughter-in-law was not a widow when peeping tom Mohammed peeped into her tent and saw her naked and started having wet dreams of her, and then he asked his son to divorce him as Allah had conveniently revealed a verse that it was rightful for mohammed to marry his own daughter-in-law!

That was your prophet the greatest example for mankind for all times."


If, when reading Quram, what we can understand is:

"YUSUFALI: Behold! Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favour: "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled. "

Elahzab 37

From where this idea that he asked his son to divorst her and from where this idea that he saw her nacked and wished her, that is why he asked her? Again i repeat, i just catched his post as exemple, couse i read it many times. Reading the sura, i can understand that he was divorsting her first, the reason, i don't know, but, then, his father asked her in marriage.

Just to make clear, i am not muslim and i am not trying to show that the Quram is right, i don't care for these things and for Quram, but i am seeing one contradition and i really need to understand. We many times say that the muslims are using the Bible as they need to proof their book or proof that they are right using lies, but aren't we doing the same, saying lies to proof that we are right? i don't know, just i am really needing to know if this first idea has some basis or from where is its roots.

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Mohammed Ashgar explains it all here:

http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=555

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THE QURAN PROVES MUHAMMAD’S LUST FOR ZAYNAB

INTRODUCTION
Some Islamic historical reports narrate how Muhammad lusted for Zaynab bint Jahsh, the wife of his adopted son, Zaid bin Harith. The two main sources are Ibn Sa’d in his Tabaqat and Tabari in his History and Annals. A review of these sources is provided in this reference: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/zeinab.htm

Ibn Sa’d’s Tabaqat 8:101-102 Zainab had hurried to dress herself when she heard that the Messenger of God was at her door, so she leapt in a hurry, and the Messenger of God was deeply moved by her when she did that. He went away muttering something that was hardly understandable but for this sentence: 'Praise be to God who disposes the hearts.

Tabari’s Annals 2:453 The Messenger of God went out one day seeking him. On Zaid's door was a curtain, which the wind moved to show her unveiled in her chamber. The heart of the Prophet was stricken by admiration for her.

Tabari’s Tarikh VIII:1 In this year the Messenger married Zaynab bt. Jahsh [a first cousin: Allah’s Messenger came to the house of Zaid bin Muhammad. Perhaps the Messenger missed him at that moment. Zaynab, Zaid’s wife, rose to meet him. She was dressed only in a shift…. She jumped up eagerly and excited the admiration of Allah’s Messenger, so that he turned away murmuring something that could scarcely be understood. However, he did say overtly, ‘Glory be to Allah Almighty, who causes hearts to turn!’ So Zaid went to Muhammad. ‘Prophet, I have heard that you came to my house. Why didn’t you go in? Perhaps Zaynab has excited your admiration, so I will leave her.’

Tabari VIII:4 One day Muhammad went out looking for Zaid. Now there was a covering of haircloth over the doorway, but the wind had lifted the covering so that the doorway was uncovered. Zaynab was in her chamber, undressed, and admiration for her entered the heart of the Prophet. After that Allah made her unattractive to Zaid.’

Tabari VIII:3 Zaid left her, and she became free. While the Messenger of Allah was talking with Aisha, a fainting overcame him. When he was released from it, he smiled and said, ‘Who will go to Zaynab to tell her the good news? Allah has married her to me.’ Then the Prophet recited [Qur’an 33] to the end of the passage. Aisha said, ‘I became very uneasy because of what we heard about her beauty and another thing, the loftiest of matters, what Allah had done for her by personally giving her to him in marriage. I said that she would boast of it over us.’

Tabari’s Tafsir of surah 33 verse 37 :
Narrated by Yunis, narrated by Ibn Wahab, narrated by Ibn Zaid who said, "The prophet –pbuh– had married Zaid son of Haritha to his cousin Zainab daughter of Jahsh. One day the prophet –pbuh– went seeking Zaid in his house, whose door had a curtain made of hair. The wind blew the curtain and the prophet saw Zainab in her room unclothed and he admired her in his heart. When Zainab realized that the prophet desired her she began to hate Zaid. {note: Tabari is also known as Ibn Jarir.}


The story is also told in the Quran (translations below from Shakir). The Quran says that human affairs ‘have already been’ decided by Allah, and that Allah would bring to light what Muhammad concealed in his soul for which he feared the people. The Quran also says that when Zaid divorced Zaynab Allah gave her to Muhammad to teach Muslims that adopted sons are not the same as real ones by showing that it is permissible for a man to marry the ex-wife of his adopted son.

33:36 The believing men and women must not feel free to do something in their affairs other than that which has been already decided for them by God and His Messenger. One who disobeys God and His Messenger is in plain error.

33:37 And when you said to him to whom Allah had shown favor and to whom you had shown a favor: Keep your wife to yourself and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; and you concealed in your soul what Allah would bring to light, and you feared men, and Allah had a greater right that you should fear Him. But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed.

33:38 There is no harm in the Prophet doing that which Allah has ordained for him; such has been the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and the command of Allah is a decree that is made absolute:

33:39 Those who deliver the messages of Allah and fear Him, and do not fear any one but Allah; and Allah is sufficient to take account.

33:40 Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things.

Thus it is clear that the Quran says that Muhammad had something to conceal which he feared the people over this affair, and that it was Allah who ordered Muhammad to marry Zaynab for the reason stated above.

Critics, however, point out that Muhammad’s admiration for Zaynab was only initiated when he noticed her in a state of undress, thus leading to a charge of ‘lust’. They claim that this episode reflects poorly on Muhammad’s moral character and that he made up the Quranic verse to justify his marriage to Zaynab after Zaid divorced her.



THE ISLAMIST RESPONSE
Islamists are highly embarrassed by the Zaynab affair. Their main response is to attack the veracity of the sources above. In particular they point out that one of the narrators, Muhammad ibn Umar, aka Waqidi, is a notorious inventor of traditions, and therefore, a liar.

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2005/the-narratives-concerning-the-marriage-of-zaynab/
http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2005/qadi-iyad-on-the-story-of-Zaid-and-zaynab/

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