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The Cat
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Understanding the Qur'an.
To have a clear understanding of the Qur'an we must read it chronologically, since the later Medina verses did abrogate the former Meccan verses. I've spent the recent few hours working on this tableau giving the chronological order of all Suras find in the Qur'an, the 86 written in Mecca and then the 28 written in Medina, which usually abrogated the former. I hope it'll useful to our members...
The Chronological Order of the Quran:
------------------ 1. The 86 Meccan suras ---------------
Chronological -----------------Actual-----Name---------
1 Alaq (Al-)______became___96____The Clot (The Embryo)
2 Qalam (Al-)____ became___68____The Pen
3 Muzammil (Al-)_ became___73____The Enshrouded One
4 Mudathir (Al-)__ became___74____The Cloaked One
5 Fatehah _______became____1____The Opening
6 Masad (Al-)_____became___111___Palm Fire
7 Takwir (Al-)____ became____81___The Overthrowing
8 A'la (Al-)_______ became____87___The Most High
9 Leyl (Al-)_______became____92___The Night
10 Fajr (Al-)______became____89___The Dawn
11 Dhuha (Al-)____ became____93___The Morning Hours
12 Sharh (Al-)_____became____94___Solace
13 Asr (Al-)_______became___103___The Declining Day
14 Aadiyat (Al-)___ became___100___The Coursers
15 Kauthar (Al-)___ became___108___Abundance
16 Takathur (Al-)__ became___102___Rivalry Increase
17 Ma'un (Al-)_____ became___107___The Small Kindnesses
18 Kafirun (Al-)____became___109___The Disbelievers
19 Fil (Al-)________became___105___The Elephant
20 Falaq (Al-)______became___113___The Day break
21 Nas (Al-)_______ became___114___Mankind
22 Ikhlas (Al-)______became___112___The Unity
23 Najm (Al-)______ became____53___The Star
24 Abasa__________became____80___He Frowned
25 Qadr (Al-)_______became____97___Power
26 Shams (Al-)_____ became____91___The Sun
27 Bhruj (Al-)______became ____85___Mansions of the Stars
28 T'in (Al-)________ became____95___The Fiq
29 Qureysh_________became___106___Winter or Qureysh
30 Qariah (Al-)______became___101___The Calamity
Middle Meccan chapters (suras, approx. 618-620).
31 Qiyamah (Al-)____became___75___Rising of the Dead
32 Humazah (Al-)___ became__104___The Traducer
33 Mursalat (Al-)____became___77___The Emissaries
34 Q'af____________became___50___Oaf
35 Balad (Al-)_______became___90___The City
36 Tariq (Al-)_______became___86___The Morning Star
37 Qamr (Al-)_______became___54___The Moon
38 Sad_____________became___38___Sad
39 A'Raf (Al-)_______ became____7___The Heights
40 J'nn (Al-)________became____72___The Jinn
41 Ya'sin___________became____36___Ya Sin
42 Farqan (Al-)_____became____25___Criterion
43 Fatir___________became____35___The Angels
44 Maryam_________became____19___Mary
45 Ta Ha__________became____20___Ta Ha
46 Waqiah (Al-)_____became____56___The Event
47 Shuara (Al-)_____became____26___The Poets
48 Naml (Al-)_______became____27___The Ant
49 Qasas (Al-)______became____28___The Story
50 Israa (Al-)_______became____17___Children of Israel
51 Yunus__________became ____10___Jonah
52 Hud____________became____11___Hud
53 Yousuf_________ became____12___Joseph
54 Hijr (Al-)_______ became____15___Al-Hijr
55 Ana'm (Al-)______became_____6___Cattle
56 Saffat (Al-)______became____37___Those Who Set the Ranks
57 Luqman________ became____31___Luqman
58 Saba___________ became____34___Saba
59 Zamar (Al-)______became____39___The Troops
60 Ghafer__________became____40___The Believer
Late Meccan chapters (suras, approx. 620-622).
61 Fazilat__________became____41___Fusilat
62 Shura (Al-)______ became____42___Counsel
63 Zukhruf (Al-)_____became____43___Ornaments of Gold
64 Dukhan (Al-)_____became____44___Smoke
65 Jathiyah (Al-)____became____45___Crouching
66 Ahqaf (Al-)______ became____46___The Wind-Curved Sandhills
67 Dhariyat (Al-)____ became____51___The Winnowing Winds
68 Ghashiya (Al-)____became____88___The Overwhelming
69 Kahf (Al-)________became____18___The Cave
70 Nahl (Al-)________became____16___The Bee
71 Noah____________became____71___Noah
72 Ibhrahim________ became____14___Abraham
73 Anbiya (Al-)______became____21___The Prophets
74 Muminun (Al-)____became____23___The Believers
75 Sajdah (Al-)______became____32___The Prostrations
76 Tur (Al-)_________became____52___The Mount
77 Mulk (Al-)________became____67___The Sovereignty
78 Haqqah (Al-)_____ became____69___The Reality
79 Maarij (Al-)______ became____70___The Ascending Stairway
80 Naba (Al-)________became____78___The Tidings
81 Naziat (Al-)______ became____79___Those Who Drags Forth
82 Infitar (Al-)______ became____82___The Cleaving
83 Inshiqaq (Al-)_____became____84___The Sundering
84 Rum (Al-)________ became____30___The Romans
85 Ankabut (Al-)_____became____29___The Spider
86 Motafefin (Al-)____became____83___Defrauding
---------------------- 2. Medina’s 28 suras ----------------------
Chronological---------------------Actual----Name--------------
87 Baqarah (Al-)___became_____2____The Cow (from both places).
88 Anfal (Al-)_____ became_____8____Spoils of War
89 Imran (Al-)_____became_____3____The Family of ‘Imran
90 Ahzab (Al-)_____became____33____The Clans
91 Mumtahana (Al-) became____60____She That is to Be Examined
92 Nisa (Al-)______ became_____4____The Women
93 Zilzaleh (Al-)____became____99____The Earthquake
94 Hadid (Al-)_____ became____57____Iron
95 Muhammad_____became____47____Muhammad
96 Ra'd (Al-)_______became____13____The Thunder
97 Rahman (Al-)____became____55____The beneficent
98 Ensan (Al-)______became____76____Time (or Man)
99 Talaq (Al-)______ became____65____Divorce
100 Beyinnah (Al-)___became____98____The Clear proof
101 Hashr (Al-)_____ became____59____Exile
102 Nur (Al-)_______ became____24____Light
103 Hajj (Al-)______ became____22____The Pilgrimage
104 Munafiqun (Al-)__became____63____The Hypocrites
105 Mujadila (Al-)___ became____58____She That Disputeth
106 Hujurat (Al-)____became____49____The Private Apartments
107 Tahrim (Al-)____became____66____Banning
108 Taghabun (Al-)__became____64____Mutual disillution
109 Saff (Al-)_______became____61____The Ranks
110 Jumah (Al-)_____became____62____The Congregation
111 Fath (Al-)_______became____48____Victory
112 Maidah (Al-)_____became_____5____The Table Spread
113 Taubah (Al-)_____became_____9____Repentance
114 Nasr (Al-)_______became___110____Succour
The Qur'an is a timeless/unchangeable War Declaration from Allah upon all kafirs and infidels: Dar'ul Islam vs Dar'ul Harb (siege of war). Placards from 'The Islamic Thinkers Society' in a New York manifestation, 3 February 2006. Peace, in Islam, means the feudalization and/or destruction of Dar'ul Harb (our very homes). Make no mistake about it: this is what's going on!
Just wondering if they could do as well without our internal welfares and external subsides...
91.1(60:1) O ye who believe! Choose not My enemy and your enemy for allies. Do ye give them friendship when they disbelieve in that truth which hath come unto you, driving out the messenger and you because ye believe in Allah, your Lord ? If ye have come forth to strive in My way and seeking My good pleasure, (show them not friendship). Do ye show friendship unto them in secret, when I am Best Aware of what ye hide and what ye proclaim?
Whosoever doeth it among you, he verily hath strayed from the right way...
Don't be friends with disbelievers. They are your (and Allah's) enemy.
91.2 (60:2) If they have the upper hand of you, they will be your foes, and will stretch out their hands and their tongues toward you with evil (intent), and they long for you to disbelieve. ----91.3 (60:3) Your ties of kindred and your children will avail you naught upon the Day of Resurrection. He will part you. Allah is Seer of what ye do.
91.4 (60:4) Lo! we are guiltless of you (...). We have done with you. And there hath arisen
between us and you HOSTILITY AND HATE FOR EVER until ye believe in Allah only...
Suggestions, impressions, critics, corrections and commentaries are most welcome...[/b]
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The Cat : The chronological order of the Quran:
------------------ 1. The 86 Meccan suras ---------------
Chronological --Revelation---------Actual----Name
1 Alaq (Al-)______19___became___96___The Clot
2 Qalam (Al-)_____52__ became___68___The Pen |
that is a good ref material dear The Cat, any reference for that?
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The Cat
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The Cat : The chronological order of the Quran:
------------------ 1. The 86 Meccan suras ---------------
Chronological --Revelation---------Actual----Name
1 Alaq (Al-)______19___became___96___The Clot
2 Qalam (Al-)_____52__ became___68___The Pen |
that is a good ref material dear The Cat, any reference for that?
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Hello yeezevee...
I based my work upon: http://www.kafirnation.com/chronological.htm
But also bits upon: http://shapps.8k.com/quran_chrono.htm
It's the only way to read it properly, I believe. It makes more sense that way than how it is presented. We almost have to built our own Qur'an, since Allah was too loosy to do the job Himself! Still I wonder what the order of revelations can mean!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: The Qur'an in Chronological Order |
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The chronological order of the Quran:
------------------ 1. The 86 Meccan suras ---------------
Chronological --Revelation---------Actual----Name
1 Alaq (Al-)______19___became___96___The Clot |
What does the "19" mean?
The Clot was revealed first and eneded up as No.96, that´s clear.
Btw, you could have spaved yourself a lot of work. Mughal also made a list: (you´ll find the link in the Resource Sticky "Usefull Threads and Posts")
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1048&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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Well our ~50 year old friend who is actually in his 19teens .. Edip Yuskel may give you better answer dear ixolite
http://19.org/?en
No disrespect to Edip Yuskel here, Actually I respect that guy with certain limits..
with best wishes
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Craig Winn's "Prophet of Doom" was arranged in chronological order. Let me seee if I can get the contents list in the right order.
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http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/chapters_chronological_sequence.html
Check this out.
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That is from our Edip's guru.. Dr. Biochemist Rashad Khalifa. The guy was murdered by Jiahdi from land of pure in his masjidtucson..I mean Arizona..
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That is from our Edip's guru.. Dr. Biochemist Rashad Khalifa. The guy was murdered by Jiahdi from land of pure in his masjidtucson..I mean Arizona..
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Ok. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. So we may have a problem then, with 2 missing surahs.
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I for one will stop using the traditional numbering (except in brackets) to mention the chronological order and make a point rectifying Mohammedans whenever they use the traditional way.
First impressions: I already knew that the Medina verses were inviting slaughtering so its not what surprise me. But I also see that many Medina verses deals with women (96 as 4; 99 as 65; 105 as 58-). Also in Romans (84 as 30), it is said they are vanquished while they were obviously not. The Yamuk battle (Jordan, 638) came years after the alleged death of Muhammad. They might have been defeated then (mainly because whole tribes of deserting mercenaries joined the then Saracens) but the Empire stood still many more centuries.
NOTE: I've edited the first post and eliminated the 'Revelation' numbering until I know better what they could mean. It would then be easy to add them in brackets at the end of every line. As it is now, the shema is much more enjoyable, so I think.
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Understanding the Islamic notion of Jihad.
Since this is the first entrance for most newcomers at FFI forum, both Kafirs (Infidels) and Mohammedans alike, I wish to add some complementary (but crucial) reflections upon the notion of JIHAD, which Islamic apologists state as an inner struggle first, and then but only a defensive act when its outer struggle is carried out. A close analysis of both the Qur'an and Islamic tradition of war dismiss totally these apologists' interpretations.
Quoting first a 712AD letter sent by the then governor of Iraq, al-Hajjaj ibn Yussuf al-Thakali (660-714) to his general Muhammad Qusim (or Qasim):
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A throughout study of the notion of Jihad has been made by Suhas Majumdar in his:
''Jihad: The Islamic Doctrine of Permament War'':
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jihad/
Excerpted from its conclusion (emphasis mine):
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The first reflection is on the failure of the world at large to take note of this creed of hate and violence, and get forewarned as to the peril it entails to the civilisation of all non-Muslim peoples including those who profess Christianity. The decline of the West, of which Spengler wrote, is nowhere so evident as in its total indifference to the Islamic doctrine of jihãd, and in the absolute neglect of its duty to confront such a creed intellectually while broadcasting over the whole world its pernicious implications.
Thanks to the money-power of the oil-rich Arab countries, Islam has spread its tentacles to the farthest point of the globe, and is making known its intention of world-domination in no uncertain terms. The intellect of the West looks at the spectacle, benumbed and fascinated, sometimes breaking into loud acclamations as to the glory that is Islam, and sometimes mumbling incoherent protests against its ‘fundamentalism’.
As Nirad Chaudhury has pointed out, this division of Islam into two variants - the one Fundamentalist and the other Liberal - is the result of “either ignorance or repulsive hypocrisy”. Whatever else may get liberalised, jihad cannot; and the West’s failure to understand the true nature of the current Islamic Revival must be recognised as the most colossal intellectual failure of the present epoch. (...)
The Western world’s intellectual decline is nowhere so manifest as in this context. India’s Secularism is on its own admission merely a pale imitation of its Western original which itself has nowhere taken note of the Islamic doctrine of jihãd. Consequently, the riot-prone behaviour pattern of the immigrant Muslim population in Western countries has left them helpless and guessing. The Western media call it ‘ethnic unrest’ - a stupid description betraying abysmal ignorance about the nature of Islam. |
Some parts of his book may be given here for its most important parts:
--Chapter 7: Slaughter of Infidels in Jihad:
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jihad/ch7.htm
--Appendix 1: Jihad and Expulsion of Non-Muslims from Islamic countries:
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jihad/app1.htm
--Appendix 2: Jizyah and the Zimmi (or dhimmis, taxed servants)
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jihad/app2.htm
--Appendix 3: Development of the Doctrine of Jihad:
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jihad/app3.htm
--Apendix 5: Doctrine of Jihad as Defensise War:
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jihad/app5.htm
Other sites dedicated to the subject:
http://www.historyofjihad.com/
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/islam/blfaq_islam_jihad.htm
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| The Cat wrote: |
Understanding the Qur'an.
To have a clear understanding of the Qur'an we must read it chronologically, since the later Medina verses did abrogate the former Meccan verses. I've spent the recent few hours working on this tableau giving the chronological order of all Suras find in the Qur'an, the 86 written in Mecca and then the 28 written in Medina, which usually abrogated the former. I hope it'll useful to our members...
The Chronological Order of the Quran:
------------------ 1. The 86 Meccan suras ---------------
Chronological -----------------Actual-----Name---------
1 Alaq (Al-)______became___96____The Clot (The Embryo)
2 Qalam (Al-)____ became___68____The Pen
3 Muzammil (Al-)_ became___73____The Enshrouded One
4 Mudathir (Al-)__ became___74____The Cloaked One
5 Fatehah _______became____1____The Opening
6 Masad (Al-)_____became___111___Palm Fire
7 Takwir (Al-)____ became____81___The Overthrowing
8 A'la (Al-)_______ became____87___The Most High
9 Leyl (Al-)_______became____92___The Night
10 Fajr (Al-)______became____89___The Dawn
11 Dhuha (Al-)____ became____93___The Morning Hours
12 Sharh (Al-)_____became____94___Solace
13 Asr (Al-)_______became___103___The Declining Day
14 Aadiyat (Al-)___ became___100___The Coursers
15 Kauthar (Al-)___ became___108___Abundance
16 Takathur (Al-)__ became___102___Rivalry Increase
17 Ma'un (Al-)_____ became___107___The Small Kindnesses
18 Kafirun (Al-)____became___109___The Disbelievers
19 Fil (Al-)________became___105___The Elephant
20 Falaq (Al-)______became___113___The Day break
21 Nas (Al-)_______ became___114___Mankind
22 Ikhlas (Al-)______became___112___The Unity
23 Najm (Al-)______ became____53___The Star
24 Abasa__________became____80___He Frowned
25 Qadr (Al-)_______became____97___Power
26 Shams (Al-)_____ became____91___The Sun
27 Bhruj (Al-)______became ____85___Mansions of the Stars
28 T'in (Al-)________ became____95___The Fiq
29 Qureysh_________became___106___Winter or Qureysh
30 Qariah (Al-)______became___101___The Calamity
Middle Meccan chapters (suras, approx. 618-620).
31 Qiyamah (Al-)____became___75___Rising of the Dead
32 Humazah (Al-)___ became__104___The Traducer
33 Mursalat (Al-)____became___77___The Emissaries
34 Q'af____________became___50___Oaf
35 Balad (Al-)_______became___90___The City
36 Tariq (Al-)_______became___86___The Morning Star
37 Qamr (Al-)_______became___54___The Moon
38 Sad_____________became___38___Sad
39 A'Raf (Al-)_______ became____7___The Heights
40 J'nn (Al-)________became____72___The Jinn
41 Ya'sin___________became____36___Ya Sin
42 Farqan (Al-)_____became____25___Criterion
43 Fatir___________became____35___The Angels
44 Maryam_________became____19___Mary
45 Ta Ha__________became____20___Ta Ha
46 Waqiah (Al-)_____became____56___The Event
47 Shuara (Al-)_____became____26___The Poets
48 Naml (Al-)_______became____27___The Ant
49 Qasas (Al-)______became____28___The Story
50 Israa (Al-)_______became____17___Children of Israel
51 Yunus__________became ____10___Jonah
52 Hud____________became____11___Hud
53 Yousuf_________ became____12___Joseph
54 Hijr (Al-)_______ became____15___Al-Hijr
55 Ana'm (Al-)______became_____6___Cattle
56 Saffat (Al-)______became____37___Those Who Set the Ranks
57 Luqman________ became____31___Luqman
58 Saba___________ became____34___Saba
59 Zamar (Al-)______became____39___The Troops
60 Ghafer__________became____40___The Believer
Late Meccan chapters (suras, approx. 620-622).
61 Fazilat__________became____41___Fusilat
62 Shura (Al-)______ became____42___Counsel
63 Zukhruf (Al-)_____became____43___Ornaments of Gold
64 Dukhan (Al-)_____became____44___Smoke
65 Jathiyah (Al-)____became____45___Crouching
66 Ahqaf (Al-)______ became____46___The Wind-Curved Sandhills
67 Dhariyat (Al-)____ became____51___The Winnowing Winds
68 Ghashiya (Al-)____became____88___The Overwhelming
69 Kahf (Al-)________became____18___The Cave
70 Nahl (Al-)________became____16___The Bee
71 Noah____________became____71___Noah
72 Ibhrahim________ became____14___Abraham
73 Anbiya (Al-)______became____21___The Prophets
74 Muminun (Al-)____became____23___The Believers
75 Sajdah (Al-)______became____32___The Prostrations
76 Tur (Al-)_________became____52___The Mount
77 Mulk (Al-)________became____67___The Sovereignty
78 Haqqah (Al-)_____ became____69___The Reality
79 Maarij (Al-)______ became____70___The Ascending Stairway
80 Naba (Al-)________became____78___The Tidings
81 Naziat (Al-)______ became____79___Those Who Drags Forth
82 Infitar (Al-)______ became____82___The Cleaving
83 Inshiqaq (Al-)_____became____84___The Sundering
84 Rum (Al-)________ became____30___The Romans
85 Ankabut (Al-)_____became____29___The Spider
86 Motafefin (Al-)____became____83___Defrauding
---------------------- 2. Medina’s 28 suras ----------------------
Chronological---------------------Actual----Name--------------
87 Baqarah (Al-)___became_____2____The Cow (from both places).
88 Anfal (Al-)_____ became_____8____Spoils of War
89 Imran (Al-)_____became_____3____The Family of ‘Imran
90 Ahzab (Al-)_____became____33____The Clans
91 Mumtahana (Al-) became____60____She That is to Be Examined
92 Nisa (Al-)______ became_____4____The Women
93 Zilzaleh (Al-)____became____99____The Earthquake
94 Hadid (Al-)_____ became____57____Iron
95 Muhammad_____became____47____Muhammad
96 Ra'd (Al-)_______became____13____The Thunder
97 Rahman (Al-)____became____55____The beneficent
98 Ensan (Al-)______became____76____Time (or Man)
99 Talaq (Al-)______ became____65____Divorce
100 Beyinnah (Al-)___became____98____The Clear proof
101 Hashr (Al-)_____ became____59____Exile
102 Nur (Al-)_______ became____24____Light
103 Hajj (Al-)______ became____22____The Pilgrimage
104 Munafiqun (Al-)__became____63____The Hypocrites
105 Mujadila (Al-)___ became____58____She That Disputeth
106 Hujurat (Al-)____became____49____The Private Apartments
107 Tahrim (Al-)____became____66____Banning
108 Taghabun (Al-)__became____64____Mutual disillution
109 Saff (Al-)_______became____61____The Ranks
110 Jumah (Al-)_____became____62____The Congregation
111 Fath (Al-)_______became____48____Victory
112 Maidah (Al-)_____became_____5____The Table Spread
113 Taubah (Al-)_____became_____9____Repentance
114 Nasr (Al-)_______became___110____Succour
The Qur'an is a timeless/unchangeable War Declaration from Allah upon all kafirs and infidels: Dar'ul Islam vs Dar'ul Harb (siege of war). Placards from 'The Islamic Thinkers Society' in a New York manifestation, 3 February 2006. Peace, in Islam, means the feudalization and/or destruction of Dar'ul Harb (our very homes). Make no mistake about it: this is what's going on!
Just wondering if they could do as well without our internal welfares and external subsides...
91.1(60:1) O ye who believe! Choose not My enemy and your enemy for allies. Do ye give them friendship when they disbelieve in that truth which hath come unto you, driving out the messenger and you because ye believe in Allah, your Lord ? If ye have come forth to strive in My way and seeking My good pleasure, (show them not friendship). Do ye show friendship unto them in secret, when I am Best Aware of what ye hide and what ye proclaim?
Whosoever doeth it among you, he verily hath strayed from the right way...
Don't be friends with disbelievers. They are your (and Allah's) enemy.
91.2 (60:2) If they have the upper hand of you, they will be your foes, and will stretch out their hands and their tongues toward you with evil (intent), and they long for you to disbelieve. ----91.3 (60:3) Your ties of kindred and your children will avail you naught upon the Day of Resurrection. He will part you. Allah is Seer of what ye do.
91.4 (60:4) Lo! we are guiltless of you (...). We have done with you. And there hath arisen
between us and you HOSTILITY AND HATE FOR EVER until ye believe in Allah only...
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LOL 
Who gave the right to do this thing ? what is called the universtity in which you earned your Phd degree in Islamic theology and science of Koran ?
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here is the link for you on that Q'uranic order dear Berber..
http://www.masjidtucson.org/
go to that link.. teach those guys a lesson. Teach them the right Q'uranic order..
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The Cat
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| Berber wrote: |
| Who gave the right to do this thing ? |
Allah, of course. Who else?
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| what is called the universtity in which you earned your Phd degree in Islamic theology and science of Koran ? |
Who needs a Phd in repeating and conforming? If so, computers are all universities graduates... The best of all your Islamic saints and the most performing of all possible Imams issuing fatwas!
I simply made a google research: (quran+chronology) as part of my work for 'Quoting Abul Kasem, Part III', when dealing with the abrogations found in the qur'an. Considering the importance of this, I thought it deserved a thread of its own.
It's cristal clear from Muhammad's life brought to us, through the Sira and thousands of hadiths, that the revelations brought to him are not given in a logical, chronological, sequence. It's not too hard then to reconstruct the factual order from the historical follow up of their coming up. Bits can still change, but as a whole, this chronological sequence makes detailed sense. A further step for scholars would be to analyse and reconstruct differently the chapters themselves, because many of them have parts belonging to quite different periods of time.
If your own Islamic scholars didn't do the job, let alone Allah, apart from this 'Masjid Tucson' (Rashad Khalifa, said yeezevee, killed by a jihadist), blame it on the Islamic fatalism, bewitching a book (dealing with historical matters), into a stagnant, idolatrous strawstuffed curse delivered first upon Mohammedans themselves and then upon the rest of us, kafirs.
If Allah condemned you to utter stagnancy, to be quranic parrots of some Imam ventriloquist, we are not being restrained by your leash of fears. The very fact that the Quran needs such major adjustment is but one more proof of its human origin. Dig it...
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Hi Cat,
Thanks for taking the time to compile and share this list, it will definately help those trying to understand the Koran and the so called revelations of Muhammad and even those who are researching the pyschology of Muhammad.
However, try to bear in mind that as much of Islamic thought and law is based on the "original, unaltered" version of the Koran and reading it as it is published can provide an excellent insight to the workings of the Islamic mind (as nonsensical as that may be  ).
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