Aren't you satisfied? Then leave!

[IoshkaFutz]

Ciao Again Freeland,

I found a very interesting web page - IN ITALIAN, one that all Italian women should read. There are many testimonies. They read like novels, and yet they are fire-branded with truth.

http://www.freevox.altervista.org/donne_islam.htm

I don't believe you said that all Muslims are terrorists, even the moderate ones. But now that il giovane e baldanzoso Darius accuses you, I will have to re-read your article, which unlike the drivel he produces, comes from the heart (having paid the price).

You will find the same scholar on other threads defending "la pedofilia". (Se non sono pazzi, non li vogliamo!)

Enjoy that article: it pretty much says it all... Once you've become aware of Islam, you will look at our much reviled Italy (and even your much reviled Italian men!) through different eyes.

The beautiful vineyards, the (now) much sweeter sound of the churchbells, (compared to the lamenting "berci" of the muezzin) le città d'arte, fashions, the simple ease of dialogue between the sexes, the pleasures, the incredible civilization (and sometimes even the incredible lack if ot!)

I'm only half Italian, but I'm delighted that there is now an Italian here. May many more come (we have to catch up with the Dutch and the English!!!).

Ali Sina has big plans. He writes well and will soon publish a book, which - se Dio vuole (e il caso di dirlo) might lead to a movie. On another thread this is discussed. I am amused at us anti-Islamics now thinking like would-be producers.

I've come to the conclusion that many ways are good and viable. All that needs to be done to break the ignorance of those who consider Islam just another religion, is to place them honestly (and insistently and fearlessly) in front of the facts.

Awareness. As friend Mughal (from Pakistan) noticed, there's a rising groundswell against this faithless faith's duplicity. Where people were afraid, now they openly challenge. Where they once justified afraid of their own civilzation's hipocrisy, (tutti i pulpiti sono marci), they now DEMAND explanations.

Like you (as told in your article) I was shocked by the sermon of Imam Moussa in Rome, the biggest freaking Moschea in Europe!

Ma come si permettono! How dare they dirty Rome, la bella Roma, Roma which backwards means AMOR (love) with their ugly calls for suicide bombing and muder! Even Milan and Florence and yes, even Carmagnola (con i suoi peperoni).

Basta! Ma basta davvero!

Yet - hai visto? - it hardly made news. It was swept under the carpet.

They did it again in England, while opening another huge Mosque and Islamic Center, at Whitechapel. It was crowded all'inverosimile! Who gave the opening speech? A Nazi, who back home (alla Mecca) calls Jews and Christians pigs, and apes. In front of the BBC instead he spoke about "community fellowship" (comprensione reciproca) and other ear candy!

The time has come. Tolleranza zero for Islamic doublespeak and baloney.

If they can boast about their numbers (Oh how they love to say Islam is growing!), then we can hold them repsonsible for whoever adds to those numbers.

True Islam, bad Islam, phoney Islam, so-so Islam? You know what Islam is? Whatever allows someone entry into Mecca and Medina. To the holy cities allowed to the worst of "theirs" but forbidden to the best of "ours."

(All that matters is that "Allah è Grande" It doesn't matter if he is "buono")

Holy cities in a country where women aren't allowed to drive, bibles must be hidden like packets of heroin and where a foreign worker is left to die without the blessings of his faith and where children are stolen forever from their mothers.

Una porcheria bestiale!

They'll tell you whatever you want to hear. Their religion allows them that. (There's another thread started by a fellow called Frodo Baggins) that explains it. )

Che bello, un'italiana a FFI!

Ciao
Ioshka

PS. I went further into that Italian site. It's rich and informative... but there's no better perspective on the problem than here at FFI with its apostates, sconvertiti, rebels, sinners, spinners, hotheads, scholars, reasoners. And best of all, time and time again you see what hopeless liars and losers, squealers and squirmers the believing representatives of this faithless faith are.

Vedere per credere!

[marky]

I believe that people that call for "death to Jews, death to Christians" should be charged with incitement to murder.

People who as a "constitution" of their islamic group want to introduce sharia law should be charged with sedition.

We have been too tolerant for too long.

I agree completely. If people want to come to my country I don't care what colour or creed they are, I don't care if they cannot speak a word of English. I do care if they start to sow seeds of sedition and fear and anti-patriotic values.

If they don't like my country or its values then GET OUT.
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No need to hide behind slogans of deceit, Claiming that you're a religion of peace, We just don't believe you, We can clearly see through, The madness that you're feeding your people, Jihad ... (Stuck Mojo - Open Season)

[freeland]

Kanad, You are right, Europe is responsible for this “invasion”. Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t say ALL Muslims are terrorists, at least this is what darius wants readers to believe. What I meant is that ALL Muslims here in Europe never, NEVER, condemned terrorist acts, never condemned terrorist with their names. They are just the poor victims of an imperialist world. I don’t agree; they are the product of a religion of hate. Even thou we are responsible for their presence, it doesn’t give them the right to despise us, our religion, our way of life. And by the way, the real responsible are the Italian communists which ruled Italy for decades. I’m not a racist, I just want to live in peace without Muslims holding public offices or force their way of life upon all Italians. There are so many Jews here, Buddhist, Jehovah witness, why shouldn’t Muslims behave like them? They never gave any trouble to the state or to the citizens, unlike the Muslims.
As a woman I want my rights. If Muslim women are happy with the few rights they can enjoy in an Islam society, good for them; I want ALL my rights not just a few. Men are not superior to women, man have no right to beat women, I want to dress the way I Like, and say whatever I want. In MY country.
I know what it means to have no rights whatsoever. It’s just awful. Everybody thinks you aren’t worth a thing, you cannot say anything in court, the judge will never even look at you anyway just because you are a woman. Your body, your thoughts are in control of a man. A Muslim man. This will never happen in Europe.

Ciao IoshkaFutz, è un piacere conoscerti. Many articles in that web site are mine, but I don’t’ even have the opportunity to sign, because of those bigots, imbeciles Muslims. Is this the Italy Muslims want? I will never give them the satisfaction; I will expose the “real” Islam till all Italian wake up.
Muslims who want to live here, must respect our culture otherwise they can go back to their countries.

ciao
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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe...
[Albert Einstein]

[Susan]

[freeland]

I had a long virtual conversation with an Italian lady converted to Islam; I wish you could read Italian (it’s too long to translate), just to see how delirious her thoughts are, worse than Muslims. I sent here to FFI, she was furious (especially for the article about Muhammad/Maometto’s women (Aisha)); She said we are racist, Jew, kuffar and Allah will punish us all; the purest Islam will rise sooner o later, she pointed out that Italy doesn’t belong to Italians but to Allah, so Muslims have the right to live here much more then Italians. I’m against any kind of violence but if I had here in front of me I don’t know if I would be able to control my self. This is just a small part of what "our" communist are supporting. :O
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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe...
[Albert Einstein]

[Susan]

[freeland]

#EANF#
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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe...
[Albert Einstein]

[IoshkaFutz]

Ciao Freeland,

FFI is racist! They're a pack of Jews!

Ahh! Tomorrow I'll read the rest of that site. I just read about Islam and women.

Buonanotte

[Kanad]

Freeland: Italians did not give the Muslims the rights. They create their own rights. Muslims do not wait for non-Muslims to give them the rights. They just wait for their head counts to grow to the extent when they can create their own rights. Stupid Europeans are creating that situation for the Mualims. Europeans care for only one thing and that is immediate money. As the saying goes, Europeans do not hesitate to screw their own grandmothers for a buck. Americans brought that culture to America from Europe. Europe has seen nothing yet via Islam. Unless Europe kicks out Muslims and Islam from Europe, Europe has a sad future.
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BANNED FOR CALLS TO GENOCIDE

[syamal]

[freeland]

Kanad we have a Constitution, laws and the Declaration of Human rights, that’s why, as I wrote, we should never forget the freedom we have in western societies and that’s why we cannot deny rights to Muslims just because in their countries they discriminate non Muslims. This is democracy with it’s good things and bad things. If you deny rights to Muslims they’ll drag the government in front of the European court of Human Rights because we violated their rights, surely no European country would like that. They just take advantage of our liberal law. The biggest problems are not the born-Muslims but the Italian converted to Islam, they are using their citizenship to gain more rights and to spread Islam. We can expel an Arab or an Asian Muslim, but never an Italian Muslim. And Italian Muslims are as much a threat as Arab or Asian Muslims are.
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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe...
[Albert Einstein]

[freeland]

Italy has the lowest birth rate in the world; we’ll be Islamized sooner then Israel or other countries.
We should put a limit to Muslims birth rate, perhaps teaching them what contraception is… 8-|
Muslim governments regard family planning as a tool of Western oppression. Do they understand that having a “football team” of children it’s not the best way to combat poverty, misery and degradation?
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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe...
[Albert Einstein]

[Ali Sina]

[Kanad]

Freeland: If you could put a limit to Muslim birthrate, you could easily kick Muslims out of Europe. Both are impossible to achieve in European constitutions. The thing to do is to keep a handle on Muslim head count irrespective of what constitutions say. That part of constitutions were written by stupid Europeans anyway. Ultimate solution lies in firepower which is what Muslims understand best.
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BANNED FOR CALLS TO GENOCIDE

[freeland]

Ciao Kanad

I suppose they forgot the Islamic threat when they wrote Constitutions. Unfortunally our politician are imbeciles, they don’t want Muslims but they need them, especially communists. I don’t no who’s worse: communism or Islam. The point is: Europeans (I mean citizens not politicians) will stand up against Muslims? Everybody is so scared to talk. We have those other imbeciles i.e. columnists and TV commentator that keep saying that Islam is a religion of peace, tolerance and blah blah blah. But I wonder if they really believe in it or it’s just a politically correct matter. With these politically correct “stronzate” (I’m not going to translate it X ) we’ll find our self Islamized. Violence it’s never a solution. For our economy we need countries like Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and our politician we’ll never jeopardise this. A big portion of our income comes form Gulf countries as we export lots of goods there (clothing, gold, food, technology etc.)
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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe...
[Albert Einstein]