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MUSLIMS ! An Appeal to you
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VirtualEye



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: MUSLIMS ! An Appeal to you Reply with quote

Hello all muslim brothers,

Do you know why this site is running day by day?

Because we muslims keep on listening to the barking of these satanic people here. So we should think that, are we becoming the reason of making them more and more abuse our prophet? We think that we are defending Islam, but infact we are giving much more chances to these infidels and culprit devils.

Some members of this website are not here to disucss but they just have clear intension to abuse Islam. And the proof is that they use such gross ugly pictures abusing Islam.

So if we stop using this website then these Sons of the biittches will automatically die their death.

SO, PLEASE STOP USING THIS WEBSITE.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha beat me to it, ixolite
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VE!

I know u don't have anything logical to say, but a typical muslim way to handle defeat! but closing your eyes to truth doesn't hurt truth in any way. close ur eyes, as Muhammad says "Two goats won't butt their heads about it". same goes to you!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well well well.

And so many Muslims claim to have strengthened their faith by coming here.

Now Viral Eye claims it is weakening their faith.

Is Islam so weak it cannot stand some abuse from us ignorant kufirs?

Does Allah need defending?

Is he an old senile that can't look after himself?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

humandecency wrote:

And so many Muslims claim to have strengthened their faith by coming here.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a muslim, thx to God from before and after, i will not leave becuase i see it is a duty to come here and talk with them. Whoever is close minded will not hurt but themselves.

As the Prophets from before, from Noah to Abraham to Moses and Jesus and Mohammad, Peace and bless upon them from thier Lord:

We shall do our duty, and we will be respobsibile about our crimes, and they are responsible about thier actions.

Don't they see if we have a clear information from our Lord, should we force them to accept it while they hate it? Same apply in the opposite direction.

Our duty is to just inform, and every one is responsible in front of God, Who understand evey person situation, propaganda enviroment, and the curroption and the decoration of words for evil agendas, and see how clear was the Truth to them and what did they do after knowing it.

Some people bad actions have made them so close minded that are not able to listen to the other side. To these people: PLEASE change attitude!! I am worrying about you of the Last Day! And why not i wont worry and I am living among you in this planet????

Every body will be resposible about thier actions in Front of God in the judgemant day. Everybody hurt us, offend us without justice, and tell lies without Proof about God and His Prophets. And MUSLIMS, especially the scholars, will be asked what did they do to humanity, did they spread the message? Did they try thier best by being correct and if not to apologize and repent?

All is responsible, muslims and non muslims, and all to be asked! So let us all use the gift of mind that God gave to us all.

And Thanks to God the Lord of the Worlds.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spirit wrote:
Being a muslim, thx to God from before and after, i will not leave becuase i see it is a duty to come here and talk with them. Whoever is close minded will not hurt but themselves.


then why not come and speak with me, remember our challenge?

Spirit wrote:

As the Prophets from before, from Noah to Abraham to Moses and Jesus and Mohammad, Peace and bless upon them from thier Lord:

We shall do our duty, and we will be respobsibile about our crimes, and they are responsible about thier actions.

Don't they see if we have a clear information from our Lord, should we force them to accept it while they hate it? Same apply in the opposite direction.


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Spirit wrote:

Our duty is to just inform, and every one is responsible in front of God, Who understand evey person situation, propaganda enviroment, and the curroption and the decoration of words for evil agendas, and see how clear was the Truth to them and what did they do after knowing it.

Some people bad actions have made them so close minded that are not able to listen to the other side. To these people: PLEASE change attitude!! I am worrying about you of the Last Day! And why not i wont worry and I am living among you in this planet????


thats it! the fear of hell is the thing that has got u muslims to follow a narcissit, megalomaniac, pedophile as a prophet. your fear has taken over your senses, better try to come over it! you are becoming a source of falsehood, and giving a camoflouge of a religion to a terrorist Ideology.

Spirit wrote:

Every body will be resposible about thier actions in Front of God in the judgemant day. Everybody hurt us, offend us without justice, and tell lies without Proof about God and His Prophets. And MUSLIMS, especially the scholars, will be asked what did they do to humanity, did they spread the message? Did they try thier best by being correct and if not to apologize and repent?


don't be silly! give me the proof first, don't chicken out. come and continue the debate with me rather than ranting!

Spirit wrote:

All is responsible, muslims and non muslims, and all to be asked! So let us all use the gift of mind that God gave to us all.

And Thanks to God the Lord of the Worlds.


thats the same thing I am saying, god doesn't reward you for being a fool, and not using his gift (brain), use it and overcome ur fear of hell.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peaceforever,

The post above was my first post since a while I havent been here, I was busy with work, classes, and other things.

Fear of Hell? Many Christian gruops as well do not want to go to Hell, and Jews people do not want to go to hell too, If i am a muslim and do not want to go to hell, while i am taking out of the crowd? I respect God, i love him and i worry if i got infront of him about a guilt that i will be worthy of punishment; like mischiefing in the planet. I think its wise if people ask for fogiveness.

When as i say WE, humans, as to have examples as these good humans in history the Prophets Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammad .
And that every body is responsible. and i say IF and i say IF and i say IF.
I ended up with a reply of group of dots by you. Hehehe?

Yep, i shall reply, wait. There is another thread I am committed to but by God this is the first two replies since my last time. I shall go to one thread then go to the one we are on. Again: Just wait.

Peace be upon the peacemakers,
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spirit wrote:
Being a muslim, thx to God from before and after, i will not leave becuase i see it is a duty to come here and talk with them. Whoever is close minded will not hurt but themselves.

As the Prophets from before, from Noah to Abraham to Moses and Jesus and Mohammad, Peace and bless upon them from thier Lord:

We shall do our duty, and we will be respobsibile about our crimes, and they are responsible about thier actions.

Don't they see if we have a clear information from our Lord, should we force them to accept it while they hate it? Same apply in the opposite direction.

Our duty is to just inform, and every one is responsible in front of God, Who understand evey person situation, propaganda enviroment, and the curroption and the decoration of words for evil agendas, and see how clear was the Truth to them and what did they do after knowing it.

Some people bad actions have made them so close minded that are not able to listen to the other side. To these people: PLEASE change attitude!! I am worrying about you of the Last Day! And why not i wont worry and I am living among you in this planet????

Every body will be resposible about thier actions in Front of God in the judgemant day. Everybody hurt us, offend us without justice, and tell lies without Proof about God and His Prophets. And MUSLIMS, especially the scholars, will be asked what did they do to humanity, did they spread the message? Did they try thier best by being correct and if not to apologize and repent?

All is responsible, muslims and non muslims, and all to be asked! So let us all use the gift of mind that God gave to us all.

And Thanks to God the Lord of the Worlds.


Prophets did not go to people to listen their thousands of abuses. Those people were at least just deniers. But these people here just need no at all any argument.
1- Their speech starts from abuses and ends at abuses.
2- They dont argue positively.
3- They dont even agree to 1% or our debate.
4- I debunked them sevaral times and they just ended the talk at the word "pedophile".


I think you should clarify about the people (Jahileen) about Allah has told in Quran that when we pass by them , we say "Peace" and go away.
These people are even more worse then those ones.

They are the cream of evils.


I think you did not see, that I tried with 25 posts per day for one month, and I did not get a single person who could agree even a single point after denying 99 points.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1- Their speech starts from abuses and ends at abuses.

Yes. I use abuses a lot. I call Muhammad a pedophillie as a pedophille.

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2- They dont argue positively.

If you mean making fallacies all over the place, that's what you Muslims do.

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3- They dont even agree to 1% or our debate.

Because your 'debate' is tu quoque and ad hominem 99% of the time. Other than that, it was plain factual nonesense. We won't agree with you unless we can't refute it.

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4- I debunked them sevaral times and they just ended the talk at the word "pedophile".

Really?Show me where you even debunked them once. And explain why is that you were the one's ended up not answering back at the end.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VirtualEye,
I get the impression that you don't have logical arguments to keep on discussing, that you are AFRAID of what you found out and learned here about islam, that you now realize that ex-muslims DO EXIST, that the truth is showing up in your mind.... SO THE ONLY WAY OUT FOR YOU IS TO WALK AWAY...A BIT OF A COWARD, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VE wrote:
Prophets did not go to people to listen their thousands of abuses. Those people were at least just deniers. But these people here just need no at all any argument.
1- Their speech starts from abuses and ends at abuses. 2- They dont argue positively.
3- They dont even agree to 1% or our debate.
4- I debunked them sevaral times and they just ended the talk at the word "pedophile".


It was started by you filthy evil Quran!!! We are only reacting because people like you live out those evil verses on kuffars!!!

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3:118
O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand.

2:120 Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) till you follow their religion...........


Can't you see how true the Quran is in predicting the action of kuffars?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

virtualchildmolester you are a self confessed paedophile, yet you call us evil? You should stay here, you show islam for what it truly is- an evil cult and haven for child molesters.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

virtual and spirit.
i see both of your points.
spirit attempt to explain his position and the ppl of this forum and they attack him.many ppl of this forum lack basic morals of respect.they need god.

i found this forum and i was compelled to respond.i have debated all kinds of ppl,but never ppl with such hatred for islam.
i thought it was funny to read that some of them actually believe that they will crush islam.
i think ali sina,doesnt even believe this.but he knows that it will draws muslims and its opponents to his site.

i used to wonder where christians ,i debated,got all the faulty claims against islam from.and now i found the source.they make me look like a genius,when i explain their claims away.
the claims only got life from a forum filled with islam haters who cosign each other so much that they are convinced they are speaking the truth.

i read one post in here,where one guy said "i listed all the contradictions in the quran and gave it to a muslim and the muslim answered every one of them.what do i do now?"
the ppl of this forum,just gave him encouragement and more false claims to use.

my intent here is to educate myself and demonstrate that the claims made here are far from iron clad truth.that their claims and aims are in vain.
when i am satisfied,i will leave this forum and go to the next challenge.


in conclusion,i agree with both of you.
it is out duty to propagate the faith THAT WILL PREVAIL and SUPERCEDE over every other way of life,regardless of how much the unbeliever might not like it.but we are instructed to leave those who make funny of our faith and disrespect our beliefs to their own devises.

propagate and if they dont accept it,so what.
ISLAM IS STILL THE TRUTH,whether you believe it or not.


assalamu alaikum.
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