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Ali Sina
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 4607
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: Responce to Elaine |
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Dear Ali,
I stumbled across your website and was quite appalled at the manner in which you conduct yourself. I do not know you, but you have succeeded only in painting an arrogant, pompous and ignorant portrait of yourself. I read the debate you had with Mr Shahzad, and I'm sorry to say that he came off the better man. As a non-muslim and a Christian, I was very taken aback by the disparaging remarks you made about Islam and its prophet. Though my knowledge of the religion is limited, i recognise that your accusations were baseless and downright disrespectful.
You say this website is not meant to create trouble of any kind, but to
"build bridges". With all your intelligent witicisms etc, I am confused as
to why you cannot see that you are merely offending Muslims and turning them away with your brass, distasteful attitude? Perhaps you should reconsider the reasons for writing in the website. Masquerading behind a humanitarian facade in order to belittle others is a very pitiful thing to do, Mr Sina. Poking fun at the Muslims' comments, especially a 16 year old girl, is really small. And it occurred to me that you are somewhat of a coward, hiding behind the anonymity of the internet and a questionable pen name. And the fact that you attack the Muslims' comments by making snide remarks after each line further illustrates this point. it is very easy to attack someone when you think you have the last say. Also, you might want to brush up on your grammar a little bit if you insist on trying to make other people look stupid.
I feel ashamed and embarrassed for you, and despite being a Christian, I'm with the Muslims on this one. If you are the spokesperson for all the non-muslims, then we're in trouble. You are a reflection of what you believe, and i hope to God that you are not a Christian. No self-respecting person would say the things you have said. Your website only serves as a window for the world to see how small you are. You come off sounding ridiculous and preposterous most of the time, it's almost enough to make a Christian Muslim. You are a disgrace to mankind and humanity. I await your witty reply, though I have my doubts if you'd even post this. yes yes, prove me wrong.
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Dear Elaine:
You are deeply hurt to the extent that you have lost your objectivity and have become full of venom and vitriol, and I am an ex-Muslim who is very familiar with all the silly tricks Muslims play. Nonetheless, let us play your game and pretend you are not a Muslim posing as a Christian to feign impartiality.
How did Mr. Shahzad win the debate? Can you be specific?
In that debate I proved that Muhammad was an assassin, a pedophile a rapist a lewd person and a misogynist. Do you think these are divine attributes or do you think I failed to prove these charges?
If it is the first case, you lady must convert to Islam right away. You love evil and you found it. But if you think I am wrong, all you have to do is prove me wrong and claim your $50,000 dollars reward. I will close this site, as promised.
All good people must despise Islam just as all good people must despise hate, violence, discrimination, abuse, and terrorism. Islam stands for Ignorance, Savagery, Lopsided thinking, Arrogance, Misogyny and more. You can defend Nazism and pretend to be a nice person but who would believe you? You would be only fooling yourself. If you defend Nazism you are either a fool or a racist. Islam is no different. You claim to be ignorant. I can see that. But this is no excuse. Now you know the truth. You must either refute it or accept it. Get over your misplaced loyalty. Stop defending something you yourself say that you know nothing about. Isn’t this the acme of stupidity? Face the truth. See Muhammad for who he was do not defend something you know nothing of.
Do you know that Muhammad tortured to death his prisoners of war and on the same very night slept with their wives? You did not know that did you? Well now you know. This is written in all the books reporting his biography.
I am not the spokesperson for all the non-Muslims, but you are in deep trouble nonetheless. You must either wake up from your slumber or prepare yourself to be ridiculed, humiliated and despised for being a fool and for defending a pedophile assassin. Muhammad was no different from Charles Manson. Learn the facts before coming to the defense of a criminal.
Regards
Ali Sina
PS. If you choose to respond, please leave your response here. I have no time for private debates. Are you concerned that I am having the last word? The don't be shy my dear. Go to the forum and have the last word. _________________ Don't be a follower, but a prophet unto your own.
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Critus

Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 309 Location: Chester
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Elaine,
Sadly, neither your commencement nor conclusion make any appeal here. You could have strived a little more hard to be more articulate and look like a Christian. But you failed miserably.
BTW, Mr. Shahzad was the best individual who didn't fail to keep his wits intact while debating to Ali Sina.
But your case is extremely pathetic.
Please don't try to be over smart. I don't think it would work here with Ali Sina.
Cheers
CS _________________ "The honour of Islam lies in insulting kufr and kafirs. They (Kafirs) should be kept at an arm’s length like dogs."
"Whenever a Jew is killed, it is for the benefit of Islam." (Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi, A SUFI Lived in India) |
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Qamar abbas

Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 492 Location: allah's land
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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he won the debate infidel sina _________________ the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “I guarantee a house in the outskirts of Paradise to the one who forsakes argument even when he is in the right.” |
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sahara
Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 12461 Location: Banned
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| he won the debate, infidel sina |
Yes, you see, even you admit it, Sina won that debate.
Or is your grammer a bit off?  |
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Qamar abbas

Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 492 Location: allah's land
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| he won the debate, infidel sina |
Yes, you see, even you admit it, Sina won that debate.
Or is your grammer a bit off?  |
my grammer is of i meant say the muslim won _________________ the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “I guarantee a house in the outskirts of Paradise to the one who forsakes argument even when he is in the right.” |
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doubtless
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 6442
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Then your brain is a definately a bit off. Perhaps not, after all you are a muhammedan. _________________ Ali Sina: "The truth is out there for those who want to see it. It is beyond doubt."
Rg Veda: "He who surveys it in the highest heaven; He surely knows - or maybe He does not!" |
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Qamar abbas

Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 492 Location: allah's land
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:52 am Post subject: |
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and a muslim posing as a christian?
sina u r full of sh!t my friend the world agrees with islam and spits on u  _________________ the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “I guarantee a house in the outskirts of Paradise to the one who forsakes argument even when he is in the right.” |
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Qamar abbas

Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 492 Location: allah's land
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:53 am Post subject: |
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u had to edit it three times my friend u r full of it
 _________________ the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “I guarantee a house in the outskirts of Paradise to the one who forsakes argument even when he is in the right.” |
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Junkmaster

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 2922
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friendship

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 318 Location: ABSENT FOR A WEEK, BEST WISHES, M.
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: Its all about me, me and ME. |
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Elaine wrote:
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Dear Ali,
I stumbled across your website and was quite appalled at the manner in which you conduct yourself. I do not know you, but you have succeeded only in painting an arrogant, pompous and ignorant portrait of yourself. I read the debate you had with Mr Shahzad, and I'm sorry to say that he came off the better man. As a non-muslim and a Christian, I was very taken aback by the disparaging remarks you made about Islam and its prophet. Though my knowledge of the religion is limited, i recognise that your accusations were baseless and downright disrespectful. |
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| How did Mr. Shahzad win the debate? Can you be specific? |
My question is, "Why do some people think of forums as battle grounds"?
I win i win I WON u lose. I WIN WIN I MUST WIN. What?!!!
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| Poking fun at the Muslims' comments, especially a 16 year old girl, is really small. |
Sina if you really did that, its really pathetic and small. Maybe talking down to small girls turns you on, Sina?
The following is the Intellectual Contribution from Sina:
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| deeply hurt ....have become full of venom and vitriol, |
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| an assassin, a pedophile a rapist a lewd person and a misogynist. |
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| claim your $50,000 dollars reward |
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| know why you are so hurt |
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| you don’t know your religion |
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| following Satan and hell is where you are |
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| were ignorant up to this day, you are no longer |
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| this demonic cult of hate and violence. |
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| All good people must despise Islam just as all good people must despise hate, violence, discrimination, abuse, and terrorism |
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| Islam stands for Ignorance, Savagery, Lopsided thinking, Arrogance, Misogyny and more |
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| You would be only fooling yourself |
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| you defend Nazism you are either a fool of an evil hateful person. |
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| You claim to be ignorant |
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| But this is no excuse. |
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| You must either refute it or accept it. |
... Here sina forgot to offer her the third option. or DIE. hahaha!!!
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| Get over your misplaced loyalty. |
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| Stop defending something Stop defending something |
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| you know nothing about |
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| Isn’t this the acme of stupidity? |
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| leave this cult of hate that makes you lie and act like a hypocrite |
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| you are in deep trouble nonetheless |
... I AM GOING TO SUCK YA blood. HAHAAha!!!!
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| You must either wake up |
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| prepare yourself to be ridiculed, humiliated and despised for being a fool |
... sina has prepared himself well!!!
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| pedophile assassin as your prophet |
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| follows a pervert criminal. |
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| You wouldn't have much respect for him would you |
... WOULD YOU, SPEAK UP WHY THE HELL R U QUIET HUHUH? SPEAK UP, WOULD U?
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| he is nuts and you pity him |
Who comes out to be an absolute NUT here? [I know what some will say]
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| Muslims - a bunch of Miscreant, Uneducated, Scoundrel, Lazy, Ignoramus Morons. |
...I DONT HATE MUSLIMS, No wait i do ermm no i dont, yes i do, no i dont oh well i got nothing to lose so i do, no wait i cant oh yes i can, i CAN I CAN YAAAAAH I WIN I WIN I WIN!!!
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| How can you be proud when you know everyone else thinks you are a zombie |
... tell me about itit.
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| Is there anything more embarrassing than that? |
...FOR U SINA, calling your great great grand dad A LUNATIC is not embarrassing. Having a go at small girls is not Embarrassing.
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| So my dear, save all that shame and embarrassment for yourself |
..Yeh LEAVE THIS WEBSITE or be ridiculed Cos UR IGNORANT, ISLAM IS NAZI profitable company!!!
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| Anyway, both of us know why you are so hurt. |
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| Anyway, both of us know why you are so hurt. |
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| Anyway, both of us know why you are so hurt. |
HONEST CHALLENGE: If you can count the number of NEGATIVE REMARKS in sina's intellectual contribution he will give you $50,000 and Commit Suicide. Do you think you can convince him; try your luck today!!!
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Don't be a follower, but a prophet unto your own.
Last edited by Ali Sina on Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:31 pm; edited 3 times in total |
Sina thinks of himself as a prophet, one, that gets exasperated over compliments about his poor grammar. So he decides to stick to small sentences, some of them 3 words long. Notice the number of times sina has edited his post.
I WON I WON I WON _________________ M is not afraid of what junk you have to say.
But just to prove a point, M's freedom of action, you are banned for a week. What will you do about that?
Best Wishes,
M. |
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sahara
Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 12461 Location: Banned
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Well Friendship, that was certainly a waste of time reading your post.
How long did it take you to break up his entire respose and pretty much respond to each word, by word, by word?  |
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Donnie Darko
Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 1760 Location: Dar al-Harb
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| friendship wrote: |
| Sina thinks of himself as a prophet, one, that gets exasperated over compliments about his poor grammar. So he decides to stick to small sentences, some of them 3 words long. Notice the number of times sina has edited his post. |
I don't think you read very well.
Anyhow, Ali Sina has himself stated that he was never a prophet to begin with. He is simply an outspoken individual with regards to the exposition of Islam's true nature.
Do you have a problem with that? If so, forge rebuttals as responses to our arguments. Don't waste our time with your meaningless critique of one's grammar, and consequently, adopting semantic arguments. _________________ With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. |
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chingachgook

Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 3101 Location: Land of Twilight Zone
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Friendship,
Just save your breath... it really makes you look silly and childish to attack the author when you should be attacking his points.
See, I win too!  _________________ When Muslims DON'T follow Islam they are holy. When Christians DON'T follow Christ's they are not holy (chingachgook)
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johnbrown1618

Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 1054
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Elaine said; "Though my knowledge of the religion is limited".
In other words, she is commenting on a subject she knows next to nothing about. Yes, it looks like people on this website are attacking Islam and Islam is the innocent victim sometimes but if you read the posts by Muslims, they are actually the most vile and hateful of all. Most of the posts against Islam are thoughtfully argued whereas most of the Muslim posts are very crude and combative. Why? Because they really can't make a well thought out rebuttal to the criticisms against Islam because Islam is indefensible. The whole basis for the religion, the idea that Muhammad was a prophet of the one true god, cannot be backed up by any evidence at all. In fact, all evidence points to the exact opposite.
If Elaine has a problem with the articles of the very honourable Ali Sina then why doesn't she provide facts to refute them rather than attacking Mr. Sina'a personal character. This is exactly what Muslims do. Rather than disprove what a critic of Islam says, they attack them, physically if possible.
People like the mean spirited Muslims on this forum, and ignorant outsiders like Elaine, are the problem, not Mr. Sina who seems to me to be a very caring person who is courageously speaking out to save others from the countless abuses of Islam.
I say well done Mr. Sina, your efforts are not in vain if they save even one innocent person from the mind control of Islam.
And by the way, what's wrong with editing posts? I edit mine all the time. It shows that the writer is trying to make his post express his thoughts as clearly as possible. Mr. Sina obviously isn't from England so he might have some problems getting his sentences or grammar correct but compared to most of the Muslims on this forum he does pretty well. |
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Qamar abbas

Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 492 Location: allah's land
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Don't be a follower, but a prophet unto your own.
Last edited by Ali Sina on Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:31 pm; edited 3 times in total
Sina thinks of himself as a prophet, one, that gets exasperated over compliments about his poor grammar. So he decides to stick to small sentences, some of them 3 words long. Notice the number of times sina has edited his post. |
i know he does, he is one of the little devils muhammad warned us about
these people r stupid sine wants to have power which he can't have
so he started this site so he could have followers. _________________ the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “I guarantee a house in the outskirts of Paradise to the one who forsakes argument even when he is in the right.” |
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