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ISLAMOPHOBIA, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: ISLAMOPHOBIA, WHAT DO YOU THINK? Reply with quote

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60526.htm




I dont wonder why muslims are very quick to respond when islam is criticised ,Its bcoz the all idea of being criticised is completely alien to them, unheard of in the history of the peaceful religion.The first critics of Islam were brutaly killed by the assasins sent by the thug moHAM mad.In the shodow of the darkness of night these assasins sent by Mo shouted Allah Akbar and slit the throat of enemies of allah(hell With the freedom of Press).

http://answeringislam.org/Muhammad/Enemies/index.html

The history of islam is full of blood shed and no one ever dared to criticise the religion of peace risking their life thinking that the religion of peace wud let them live if they dont criticise .Arab writers for fear of their life had to tell tell that cran is beautiful piece of literature though it has breached a lot of gramatical rules known then.bcoz if they said otherwise that cran was a crap they were dead.

Then came the era of internet.Thank God finally we can call the spade a spade without having to undergo the fear of our throats being slit.At least we can shout the the truth about islam regardless of how many leftist morons are supporting them.My dear Theo Van Gogh i pity you Because the PC media fed you with misinfo regarding the religion of peace and as result you underestimated Islam.yes the Left and PC media are the culprits here.Enemies within.


So if anyone out there criticise Islam that freaks them out and they shout "Racist !!! Islamophobe!!!-----All oxymorons.I just wonder when did islam become a race for that reason.


But the worrying trend thesedays is that they get a lot of support from leftist morons like Ken Livingstone ,galloway(he is an ahole),chomsky they are ready to take in whatever muslims says and which gives credibily to the killer cult.I dont give a fck abt what leftist organs like Amnesty International are telling .If we see their annual report that would prompt us to think that the entire violatin of humanrights in the world is done by US.They dont mention a word about the brutal repression of minorities in Mo countries.they dont give fck about the status of woman in Mo countries ,neiher do the left or the so called feminists.they didnt give a fck when the christian convert in afgan was aboout to be murdered by the religion of peace.
Or when this teenage school children were beheaded.


http://www.williamthrash.com/20051102.htm


The left and ofcourse AI are also suggesting that a terrorist convict shoudnt be sent back to their country because back home they cud be tortured for their crimes so they shoud be let live here so they can blow up more.The whole europe is a nonsence and has become a laughing stock infront of terorists.


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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I support "Islamophobia" but I wish there was a better word for it. "Phobia" implies fear, and many Islamists exploit that interpretation to boost their fragile egos.

There should be another word, which implies "contempt" "disgust" or "outrage", rather than a phobia, which implies an "irrational fear".

There is nothing "irrational" about disliking Islam.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is irrational not to fear islam.

Imagine a child trying to catch a poisonous snake - we have to teach him to fear snakes. I know of a real case where a young lad died of snake-bite because he just would not fear snakes.

Islam will have destroyed a lot many humane values, freedoms, humours, honesties etc. in the coming years.

The worse of islam is yet to come.

With US americans led by fools, opportunists, rich-and-blind rogues like Bush and his team the muslims are gong to have it easy destroying our values.

There will be civil war between muslims and non-muslims and the muslims' preparations (even as "persecuted" minorities) for this war are far ahead.

Those who do not fear islam will be playing into the hands of the agents and quislings of islam very well. But fear should not make us non-muslims resign to the coming defeats at the hands of the agents of islamic fascism. We do not know whose victory will be the final one.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see what's so bad about fearing something that is evil. If I called you a Naziphobe, you wouldn't consider it an insult.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kittymom wrote:
I don't see what's so bad about fearing something that is evil. If I called you a Naziphobe, you wouldn't consider it an insult.



Since Phobia is irational fear of something it wouldnt be appropriate.we dont need to say evilphobia .it is self evident.

Look at the link to see what joos did to tarnish the name of islam


http://www.williamthrash.com/20051102.htm





http://www.williamthrash.com/JAK08D_RTRIDSP_3_INDONESIA_Reuters_Alertnet.jpg
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agaricus wrote:
I support "Islamophobia" but I wish there was a better word for it. "Phobia" implies fear, and many Islamists exploit that interpretation to boost their fragile egos.

There should be another word, which implies "contempt" "disgust" or "outrage", rather than a phobia, which implies an "irrational fear".

There is nothing "irrational" about disliking Islam.
I agree with you..for what i have is not fear but contempt and loathing...my dislike of Islam is far from irrational..its all based on fact and actions coming from the religion of pieces...perhaps we should all search for a better word than islamaphobia...how about islamacontemptus
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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While I agree that Muslims really hate Jews, I disagree with Ali Sina’s claim that cartoons of Ariel Sharon harming Palestinians automatically qualifies as ‘Judeophobia’. What these two caricatures tell me is that Ariel Sharon is a mass murderer. Many political leaders throughout history have been accused of that. The caricatures do not tell me that the jews are mass murderers, but just Ariel Sharon. Therefore, I believe Sina would have been a lot fairer with his depiction of Muslims’ hatred for Jews by displaying cartoons that depict jews in general as mass murderers.

It may be true that Ariel Sharon is a mass murderer. For instance, his role in the Sabra and Shatila massacre is debatable. Regardless of whether he is or is not, my point is that these cartoons have nothing to do with Muslims’ hate for Jews, or even Israel for that matter. Such cartoons probably do exist and I believe Sina should have posted more of those instead.


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The absurdity of the Muslim mind is such that they think it is okay for them to incite hate against the non-Muslims in general and the Jews in particular and yet it is not okay for others to criticize their ideology of hate.


Well said.

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What is behind this paranoia and phobia of criticism? It is the inability of Muslims to counter the valid criticism of Islam. Failing that, they resort to ad hominem and try to discredit its critics by undermining their character. By classifying the criticism of Islam as a disorder, Muslims absolve themselves from responding to valid criticisms against their faith.


This is true, but I would like to make a small addition. Many Muslims are completely unaware of the danger they themselves pose (I’m mainly referring to those who call themselves ‘moderate’). Hence, hearing people criticisng Islam’s prophet can be really shocking to them. The only logical explanation in their minds would be that these non-Muslims have an irrational fear of Muslims, and that if they read the Quran instead of just listening to what the media says about Muslim terrorists, Islamophobia will go away.

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The very existence of this neologism is a tacit confession of Muslims that Islam is a lie, which can't be defended logically and that ad hominem and censorship are the only ways to defend it.


And appeal to force, of course. (Along with other fallacies).

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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. Let's be logical folks.

Most words which one wishes to introduce are based on Greek - like telephone, or most tastelessly - as in television - a combination of Greek and Latin.

So let's find some ancient Greek words for hate.

To hate - miseo. This starts at the beginning of a word, such as "misanthrope" man-hater, or "misogyny, misogynist" woman-hating, woman-hater.

But put this in front of Islam, and it's messy - Misislam. Sounds like someone at a beauty contest.

How about stugeo - I hate, despise.

This would come at the end of a word. Stugos means "hatred, abhorrence, gloom, horror", so is ideal. But again, mixed with Islam, it is messy - Islamostug, or at best Islamostygian. Islamostug sounds dhimmi - like Islamostooge.

To despise - exoutheneo
Now mix this with Islam.
Islamexouthene, Islamoexouthene. Islamoexouthenistic, and so on. It is too bulky a word mix.

But finally, there may be a solution.

To condemn - krino.
Mix it with Islam.
Islamocrine. Islamocrinic. Islamocrinistically.

Is it time for us to run out into the streets naked, shouting "Eureka"?

Maybe not. I am sure, with a bit more research, we will be able to coin an even better word.

But for now, we have a word to consider.

Islamocrine, or Islamocrinic = Someone who condemns Islam

I am not Islamophobic, or an Islamophobe.
But I am Islamocrinic, or an Islamocrine.

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agaricus wrote:
Right. Let's be logical folks.

Most words which one wishes to introduce are based on Greek - like telephone, or most tastelessly - as in television - a combination of Greek and Latin.

So let's find some ancient Greek words for hate.

To hate - miseo. This starts at the beginning of a word, such as "misanthrope" man-hater, or "misogyny, misogynist" woman-hating, woman-hater.

But put this in front of Islam, and it's messy - Misislam. Sounds like someone at a beauty contest.

How about stugeo - I hate, despise.

This would come at the end of a word. Stugos means "hatred, abhorrence, gloom, horror", so is ideal. But again, mixed with Islam, it is messy - Islamostug, or at best Islamostygian. Islamostug sounds dhimmi - like Islamostooge.

To despise - exoutheneo
Now mix this with Islam.
Islamexouthene, Islamoexouthene. Islamoexouthenistic, and so on. It is too bulky a word mix.

But finally, there may be a solution.

To condemn - krino.
Mix it with Islam.
Islamocrine. Islamocrinic. Islamocrinistically.

Is it time for us to run out into the streets naked, shouting "Eureka"?

Maybe not. I am sure, with a bit more research, we will be able to coin an even better word.

But for now, we have a word to consider.

Islamocrine, or Islamocrinic = Someone who condemns Islam

I am not Islamophobic, or an Islamophobe.
But I am Islamocrinic, or an Islamocrine.

Any ideas?


More in the same vein.

What do you think of islamoclast (from Greek klān, klas-, to break), meaning someone who strives to break Islam.

We have started an islamoclastic movement.
I am an islamoclast.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good one, but that would be a word that would be more useful when the "power of Islam" is truly broken.

At present we are either throwing stones, or morally reacting against Islam. We cannot fully be said to be breaking Islam yet.

But it sounds good - Islamoclast is an excellent word.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Islamoslammer" could be accurate but a but harsh sounding.

Islamowise or islamaware.

A neutral sounding word for opposition as in Islam-opponent.

Islamowarners

Islamoresistantes or Islamresistors - (Americans are the Transistors.)

Islamdefiants. - defiers

Islamo rejectors.

Or something more positive.
Martelophile, after Charles Martel.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agaricus wrote:
Good one, but that would be a word that would be more useful when the "power of Islam" is truly broken.

At present we are either throwing stones, or morally reacting against Islam. We cannot fully be said to be breaking Islam yet.

But it sounds good - Islamoclast is an excellent word.


We could also try to build a new word on the latin turpis (ugly, deformed, foul, filthy, obscene etc.) How does islamoturp sound? Meaning ugly, filthy, obscene etc. in an Islamic way.

- You concepts of society are wholly islamoturp.
- I don't subscribe to such islamoturp views
- Saudi Arabia is an islamoturp country
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we should reject the use of the word "Islam".

Instead I am an Anti Muhammadanist. AND DAMN PROUD OF IT.

I reject Muhammadanism.

I reject MuhammadaNazism too.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

humandecency wrote:
Maybe we should reject the use of the word "Islam".

Instead I am an Anti Muhammadanist. AND DAMN PROUD OF IT.

I reject Muhammadanism.

I reject MuhammadaNazism too.


Mohammadans reject you too colostomy bag.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mohammadans reject you too colostomy bag.


True. And yes they do think of the kaffirs as colostomy bags. That is the legacy of Mohammed. A world perpetually divided into the muhammedans and the kaffirs.

Muhammedans will have to leave the kaffir lands. Arabian hijaz is a good place to start. Hijaz should be returned to the kaffirs.
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