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PunkMaister
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 5582
Location: Ponce, P.R (With very, very few muslims around,thankfully!)
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What you have posted is what is absolute rubish ia786.
You claim knowing about thr Quran, the Hadiths.
Yet conveniently ignore the fact that it was written by a pedophile.
That it preaches absolute hatred toward nonbelievers in which your duty is to slay, subyugate or forcibly convert.
Do you honestly believe a god of love and compassion would even order such things...
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Anna Doe
Joined: 25 Dec 2005
Posts: 2745
Location: Somewhere on the spheric kafir earth, vaccinating people against islam
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:03 am Post subject: About the challenge. Anytime, here. |
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ia786, I don't understand. If you want a debate about islam, there are many persons here who know more than me and will debate with you. If you want to debate with me, for no particular reason or because you think it will be easier to defeat me, there is no problem. I will take the challenge even though you studied the koran and I didn't so much because I think simple logic and critical thinking can defeat it, not memory and it is how muslims study the koran, only memorizing it.
But to say I am a chicken because I don't want to debate in another forum is non-sense. What is the difference between here or there? Where is the contradiction?
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Why is it that Islamophobes such as yourself only come to forums such as FFI and moan to eachother? Why aren’t there any Anti-Islam movements? Why don’t these people talk to everyday Muslims? Let me continue, why is Islam such a massive religion? Why are western people even now, 1400+ years still embracing Islam in droves (I know many, many reverts – I am close to many)
Muslims are here, we are doing are ‘thang’!!!!! Where are you? You don’t exist. |
Sorry ia786, I don't understand what you mean. What is an everyday muslim? A muslim who doesn't know what is islam? Why do you want us to speak with him please? (I am really asking you genuinely, I don't know why you ask this.). The same with the converts. Please if you want us to speak with them, invite them here. Thank you.
When did I walk away? I don't. I am here. Ask Agaricus, he wrote that about me:
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| You are a very stubborn and fixed individual |
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You are so narrow-minded and arrogant. I have read this website inside out, I always read anti-Islamic material. Yet your telling me how I think and go about my life, my approach, haha. You don’t even make sense half the time, you contradict yourself, you trip over your own shoelaces yet you expect me to believe the nonsense you say. I’m trying to get out of this place but you keep dragging me back (ive already sed that)
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Please don’t say you know my life better than me. There are many things I can’t be bothered to mention. Please don’t say I should have done this or done that. (You can be so patronising – just telling you in advance) |
I appologize if I sound arrogant or patronizing but please bring examples of my contradictions, my non-sense and my narrow-mind, maybe you are right, quote me please. Please bring quotes of me dragging you back here and of me saying I know your life better than you.
Thank you for sharing some of your life with us. But what is your point? That you needed a religion to stay or come back to the right path? So what? I don't. I don't need a god or paradise or hell to not drink, not do drug and not fornicate. I didn't and don't drink, I didn't and don't do drugs and I didn't and don't fornicate. But I did make love with a few boyfriends and I do love to my husband. But your path of life as my path of life are no proof of god's existence. They are only proofs that some need external discipline (with the shadow of a punition or the light of a recompense) and some don't.
But I won't never say to somebody I don't know personnally that he should have do that and not that. What I can say to somebody I met in a forum is you should do that or that. You do the same. It is called to care for others. Of course I may be wrong, or you may be wrong or we both may be wrong.
About the challenge. Anytime, here.
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Shweta
Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 1407
Location: God's own land.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: Re: About the challenge. Anytime, here. |
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| Anna Doe wrote: |
But your path of life as my path of life are no proof of god's existence. They are only proofs that some need external discipline (with the shadow of a punition or the light of a recompense) and some don't.
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regards, shweta. |
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Bolding Hansen
Joined: 03 Apr 2005
Posts: 3061
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: About the challenge. Anytime, here. |
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| Shweta wrote: |
| Anna Doe wrote: |
But your path of life as my path of life are no proof of god's existence. They are only proofs that some need external discipline (with the shadow of a punition or the light of a recompense) and some don't.
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regards, shweta. |
Hehe yep, good one 
Or some can manage freedom and make something beautiful out of it and others can´t.
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Bolding Hansen
Joined: 03 Apr 2005
Posts: 3061
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If our critique of Islam is far of the mark it can be refuted in a split second and here. ia786 is just desperately trying to retreat with honour.
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iambuddhist
Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Posts: 398
Location: vancouver,canada
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hi missruby where are you 
do not dessert your thread
ppl this is that thread,that we had all the actions happened within very few days period.(muslim~apostate~reconsider~apostate) let this one be alive. 
peace |
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Anita1
Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 221
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I began reading Islamic thought and the Islamic spiritual sciences, I began reading the Quran, poetry and Sufi wisdom. |
ia786,
You are either a dumb Muslim zombie who like millions of other Muslims has no comprehension of logic nor enough knowledge or you are just playing Islamic taqiyaa. Or may be it is both.
"Islamic spiritual sciences" is an oxymoron. There is nothing spiritual or scientific in Islam. You try to package Islam in Sufism, which is absurd because Sufi teachings are diametrically opposed to Islamic teachings. Sufism does not even have Islamic roots.
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| This was perhaps due to alien ethnic origins of Sufism, with emphasis on love, harmony, and some elements of pantheism versus the rigidity of other orthodox Muslims. Arguments about the roots of Sufism in ancient Indo-Iranian religions (Zoroastrian/Vedanta) are well recorded are not relevant to the present discourse. |
Source: http://www.rumi.org.uk/greek/gr.htm
You talk so much about Rumi. As if you understand everything he said. Tell me one similarity ion what Rumi preached and what is written in Quran which satanic Muhammad invented.Muhammad/Quran preached hate, bigotry voilance barbarity and immorality while sufis like rumi preached love, forgiveness, humanity morality and peace. They were worlds apart.
Start with this poem from Rumi.
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"What is to be done, O Moslems? for I do not recognize myself.
I am neither Christian, nor Jew, nor Gabr, nor Moslem.
I am not of the East, nor of the West, nor of the land, nor of the sea;
I am not of Nature's mint, nor of the circling' heaven.
I am not of earth, nor of water, nor of air, nor of fire;
I am not of the empyrean, nor of the dust, nor of existence, nor of entity.
I am not of India, nor of China, nor of Bulgaria, nor of Saqsin
I am not of the kingdom of 'Iraqian, nor of the country of Khorasan
I am not of the this world, nor of the next, nor of Paradise, nor of Hell
I am not of Adam, nor of Eve, nor of Eden and Rizwan.
My place is the Placeless, my trace is the Traceless ;
'Tis neither body nor soul, for I belong to the soul of the Beloved.
I have put duality away, I have seen that the two worlds are one;
One I seek, One I know J One I see, One I call.
He is the first, He is the last, He is the outward, He is the inward;
I know none other except 'Ya Hu' and 'Ya man Hu.'
I am intoxicated with Love's cup, the two worlds have passed out of my ken ;
I have no business save carouse and revelry.
If once in my life I spent a moment without thee,
From that time and from that hour I repent of my life.
If once in this world I win a moment with thee,
I will trample on both worlds, I will dance in triumph for ever.
O Shamsi Tabriz, I am so drunken in this world,
That except of drunkenness and revelry I have no tale to tell |
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[url]Source: http://www.rumi.org.uk/life.html[/url]
It is although true that some (only some) Sufis would recite verses from Quran and praise the satanic Muhammad. But that was because they did not want to be labeled as infidels and beheaded by zombie Muslims like you.
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