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miss ruby

Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 6411 Location: Britain
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:04 am Post subject: Goodbye |
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Hello friends and enemies,
This is my last post, i have had fun here at FFI and have started to doubt my own religion.....THIS IS NOT GOOD.
I hereby testify that:
1) I believe that there is one Allah
2) I believe in the prophets
3) I believe in the four books sent from Allah..
4) I believe in the Angels
5) I believe in the day of judgement (Qayamat)
6) I believe in the ressurection after Qayamat
There is a purpose for my existance on this Earth and that is to serve only Allah....and his FINAL PROPHET is Muhammed(pbuh).
It was a mistake for me to join this forum and I will try to forget that I even doubted the words of my Allah.
Stay happy and dont hate. |
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Agaricus

Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 11191 Location: Britain
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:21 am Post subject: |
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There is a second purpose to your life ruby, to also serve humanity.
I will miss you.
And I wish you the best of luck in whatever you choose to do. You have a good personality. And if you ever decide to return it will be good for us.
A great shame you are leaving though.
I wish you weren't going.
Adrian _________________ Extremism is the loser's revenge on society
I reserve the right to make public any PMs sent to me. Be warned! |
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Myrddin Emrys

Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 1908
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Goodbye |
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| miss ruby wrote: |
This is my last post, i have had fun here at FFI and have started to doubt my own religion.....THIS IS NOT GOOD. |
To ignore your doubts is a dangerous path to tread, miss ruby. We have these instinctual gut feelings for a reason: ultimately to protect us from harm.
Ask yourself what drew you here. Was it your strength of faith, or were those niggling doubts there to begin with?
If nothing else, give yourself the gift of wisdom and take a step back to explore these feelings before you commit yourself to leaving. _________________ People will believe anything because they either fear it is true, or because they want to believe it is true.
Wizard's First Rule, courtesy of Terry Goodkind from the Sword of Truth novels. |
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Hector

Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 7144 Location: Astroistan
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Miss Ruby,
It is good that the doubts have started to appear in your mind. That will grow when you yourself grow as a human being and realize Mo was a very evil person and Islam is a horrible religion.
All the best and don't forget to apostate,
Hector _________________ What sort of man would f*ck a sweet little prepubescent nine-year-old child who liked playing with dolls and swings? Mo the demon Pedophile. |
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peacebewithyou

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1646 Location: India and USA
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Good luck my dear ruby. Remember these following points:
Nonmuslims are humans too.
No GOD/ALLAH has enemies.
GOD does not create us to throw in hell or heaven. It is cruel.
Animals have right to live and to be loved. Please do NOT eat them.
If any GOD or messenger is telling you to love only your members then stay away from them.
Live and Let live.
Always doubt religious leaders (GOD has given you brains for a purpose).
Drive your expensive car safetly.  _________________ Islam is the root cause of all evil not money. |
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annata

Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 803 Location: Emptiness
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Miss Ruby,
You seems to have 180 degrees change from the first time I met you. Hope you find the truth one day. The journey will be tough but I wish you can see the light one day.
A fool who knows that he is a fool, is wise to an extend,
A food who thinks he is wise, is the real fool. - Buddha.
It is [url]throught[/url] doubt that we seek answers.
Good luck. Don't try to be a matry, you will not get 72 virgins, after all you are a woman.  _________________ They come, they see, they terrorise.- This is Islam. |
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livethislife

Joined: 25 Dec 2005 Posts: 988 Location: Dar-el-harb
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: |
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At the expense of repeating myself, here goes:
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Good riddance!
Remember, kafirs gave you the technology. They also gave the money for you to survive in the west. Just don't bite the hand that feeds you. If you realise this one thing, then I am hopeful islame will be eradicated.
PS: Remember what Ali said about muzzys and lying. Don't come back with another nick, ok? |
_________________ Swift.Silent.Deadly.
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Unique and Universal: check this out.
Any contribution from your side? |
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XXX
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 11079
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Oh, not you as well.
Its a shame you are leaving Sis.
Everyone doubts Islam at some point, if you manage to put an end to your doubts- you'll become a much better muslim because of it.
Take care of yourself ....AllahHafiz..  |
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sum
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 8527 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Hello miss ruby
I am sorry that you are leaving us and hope that one day you will come back.
Good luck for your future.
sum |
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Dark_Spark

Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 2087 Location: Merry Old England / Britain
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Well i can't help but say, why are all the muslims leaving?
Doubts are a good thing, and leaving will not prevent them, and to try to block them out will only show ignorance.
I admit earlier on you used to really tick me off, but i'll be sad to see you go now.
I think you should just stay and bring up your doubts for discussion with us. Don't forget there are muslims here who can help you. XXX if no one else would be able to help you explore Islam.
If you ever want to talk in private, just PM me. _________________ Funny How Our British Constitutional Monarchy Allows Freedoms Like Civil Unions, Where Your Federal Democracy Does Not! I Thought The American Revolution Was FOR Freedoms! |
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sum
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 8527 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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As a follow-up to miss ruby having to shake off doubts about her religion and XXX saying that everyone has doubts at times it would be interesting and informative for us to hear what these doubts are.
Perhaps Islam prohibits showing doubts in public - I do not know, but in the interests of "openness" it would be useful to know what doubts have arisen.
I cannot believe that all muslims can easily gloss over and explain away, through context, all the hatred, intolerance and incitement to kill in the religion. Muslims still have their own inner sense of right and wrong which must conflict with a lot of Islamic and Koranic teaching. The fear of the possibility of going to hell if they doubt or criticise anything Islamic will undoubtebly prohibit any criticism. Islam has it all sewn up. Muslims are imprisoned. It is both sad and a danger for the world.
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Ali Sina
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 4607
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Goodbye |
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| miss ruby wrote: |
Hello friends and enemies,
This is my last post, i have had fun here at FFI and have started to doubt my own religion.....THIS IS NOT GOOD.
I hereby testify that:
1) I believe that there is one Allah
2) I believe in the prophets
3) I believe in the four books sent from Allah..
4) I believe in the Angels
5) I believe in the day of judgement (Qayamat)
6) I believe in the ressurection after Qayamat
There is a purpose for my existance on this Earth and that is to serve only Allah....and his FINAL PROPHET is Muhammed(pbuh).
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Hey Miss Ruby:
You don't believe in any of this nonsense. You can never be the same. Once your brain expands, it will never shrink again. Believe me I tried it for two years because I was afraid to be free but at the end I failed. These doubts that you start having will not diminish. They actually will keep multiplying. You'll start doubting even things you had taken for granted all your life. This is how people get enlightened. They suddenly find it is hard to believe in superstitions.
Yes there is a purpose for your life in this world but it is not serve a ficticious being. Your purpose is to progerss as an individual and leave something behind that after you leave the world is a better place thanks to you. This could be helping one person, or fighting against he biggest ailment of mankind such as Islam.
So go and take your time. You'll be back. Don't forget to send me your testimony of leaving Islam when you come back.
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| It was a mistake for me to join this forum and I will try to forget that I even doubted the words of my Allah. |
I am afraid that is no more possible. These doubts will throb in your head and the more you try not to think of them, the intenser they become.
Take care of yourself meanwhile. _________________ Don't be a follower, but a prophet unto your own.
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Dark_Spark

Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 2087 Location: Merry Old England / Britain
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Goodbye |
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| miss ruby wrote: |
Hello friends and enemies,
This is my last post, i have had fun here at FFI and have started to doubt my own religion.....THIS IS NOT GOOD.
I hereby testify that:
1) I believe that there is one Allah
2) I believe in the prophets
3) I believe in the four books sent from Allah..
4) I believe in the Angels
5) I believe in the day of judgement (Qayamat)
6) I believe in the ressurection after Qayamat
There is a purpose for my existance on this Earth and that is to serve only Allah....and his FINAL PROPHET is Muhammed(pbuh).
It was a mistake for me to join this forum and I will try to forget that I even doubted the words of my Allah.
Stay happy and dont hate. |
Hey Miss Ruby:
You don't believe in any of this nonsense. You can never be the same. Once your brain expands, it will never shrink again. Believe me I tried it for two years because I was afraid to be free but at the end I failed. These doubts that you start having will not diminish. They actually will keep multiplying. You'll start doubting even things you had taken for granted all your life. This is how people get enlightened. They suddenly find it is hard to believe in superstitions.
So go and take your time. You'll be back. Don't forget to send me your testimony of leaving Islam when you come back.
Take care of yourself meanwhile. You'll be back in a few months. |
I love the amount of confidence in this post
I hope you do come back as an apostate though. _________________ Funny How Our British Constitutional Monarchy Allows Freedoms Like Civil Unions, Where Your Federal Democracy Does Not! I Thought The American Revolution Was FOR Freedoms! |
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Ali Sina
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 4607
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Goodbye |
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I love the amount of confidence in this post
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I am speaking of my own experience. I used to hide the Quran behind all the books so I could not see it, in the hope that in time all my doubts would go away. It did not work. I was cast out of the paradise of ignorance and the door was slamed shut on my face. I wrote about that experience and in my long testimony.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/frombelief.htm
I suggest Miss Ruby to read this testimony. It is not about Islam. It's about my psychological state and the stages that I went through. This will help you as a roadmap. Even if you don't want to leave Islam this testimony will help you avoid the road that I went.
But as I said, this is already beyond your control. _________________ Don't be a follower, but a prophet unto your own. |
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sahara
Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 12461 Location: Banned
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Well i can't help but say, why are all the muslims leaving?
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I have a feeling that they are all leaving because of the calls for killing all muslims and the fact that no matter what they say they are accused of Al-Taqqiya.
When I first came to this site, it was a more open place, it did what it said on the packet "Help muslims to leave Islam"
Now the forum is full of new members who seem to call for nuking mecca, or are keeping logbooks celebrating the deaths of muslim wherever they happen.
How this is supposed to help muslim to leave Islam, I don't know. What I do know is that when you are being abused you will get defensive, you will fight harder to hold on, in that respect the forum is failing right now to acheive it's mission statement.
Miss Ruby is a perfect example, she has doubts, she probably gained those doubts back when she first joined, but being a muslim she has had to deal with hearing people say how muslims are scum and they all need to die.
Would you stay if that was you?
Miss Ruby, I hope that you recognize your value, I hope that you know inside that a creator wouldn't make you this worthy of respect, which you are, then take it from you because of your gender.
Miss Ruby, it took education and perserverance for you to become a solicitor, it will also take the same for you to wake up from Islam.
I don't blame you for leaving, it's not nice here anymore, and this site is now a hate site. But you can still find the answers you need.
Have you read "The Prophet of Doom"?
You really should, See how you feel after that.
I shall miss you, you are one of the better muslim posters we have had, and I hope you find the answers you seek.
LOL
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