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SaffronofMeshed

Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 270
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: Sex, lies and literary fraud |
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http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,23663,21134084-7485,00.html
Sex, lies and literary fraud
By Caroline Overington
January 29, 2007
SHE is a literary hoaxer, a conwoman and a thief - and now, if you can believe it, she's also the victim of sexual abuse and domestic violence.
Norma Khouri, author of the notorious 2003 blockbuster Forbidden Love, has told Australian filmmaker Anna Broinowski she was abused by her father since the age of four, and then beaten by her husband.
She says this partly explains why she has told so many lies over the year - to police, publishers and, it seems, to many of the people with whom she has come into contact.
Khouri's book, published by Random House, was billed as the true story of an honour killing in Jordan. With sales approaching 500,000 and an advance rumoured to be $1.2 million, the tale made Khouri an international literary star.
Khouri originally claimed she had opened a unisex hairdressing salon in Jordan with her best friend, Dalia.
Dalia, a Muslim and - to make the tale more shocking, a virgin - was supposedly murdered by her brother after she fell in love with a Christian client. Khouri says she fled Jordan after the murder.
She was granted permission to live in Australia after the Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs was told her life was at risk.
In fact, Khouri never owned - or, it seems, ever went near - a unisex hairdressing salon in Jordan. Such places do not exist.
She left Jordan at the age of three, was raised in Chicago, and married at 19. She abandoned two children with a neighbour for three months after her hoax was revealed. Now she is the unabashed, sobbing star of Broinowski's irresistible new documentary, Forbidden Lie$, which will premiere at the Adelaide Film Festival next month.
Despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary, Khouri continues to insist in the film that she knew a woman (now not called Dalia, but a woman nonetheless) who was stabbed (or shot, it depends on which version she is telling) for falling in love with a Christian man at a hair salon (although, in this new version, the woman who is not Dalia doesn't fall in love while running her fingers through his locks, as happens in the book. Indeed, in the new version, she is not permitted to cut men's hair).
Khouri emerges from the film as a shocking liar, a wonderful actor and something of a modern-day siren, able to lure men if not to their deaths, then certainly to their financial ruin with her seductive ways.
The film features an interview with multi-award-winning journalist David Leser of Women's Weekly, saying he took Khouri back to his hotel room after a literary festival. They talked for five hours. She appeared to him as a dangerously vulnerable, frightened girl. So deeply connected did they become, he asked if she'd ever had a lover; she whispered: No.
In fact, as the time, she was married with two school-age children. He did not suspect a thing.
The hoax unravelled in 2004 when a journalist from the Jordan Times, Rana Husseini, went through Forbidden Love and found too many errors to count.
But Khouri says in the film: "I never deny that she existed. I'll never deny that she was killed." _________________ O learn to read what silent love hath writ:
To hear with eyes belongs to love's fine wit.
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diotima64

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 16559 Location: middleearth
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Saffron, you may wince and whine and spread stories like that all you want - the FACT remains, that THOUSANDS of women get "honour-killed" in islamia over much LESS than a tryst with a christian.
Even OFFICIAL Turkish sources claim, about 1 woman EVERY DAY of the year in Turkey alone... and that does NOT count those, that get forced to commit suicide, or are slain by jealous husbands.
And that is TURKEY - the least vile of the vile moslem hell-holes. |
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MsWesterner
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| Saffron .....when you used the phrase "counted too many errors to count" the book that immediately came to my mind was the koran!!! |
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SaffronofMeshed

Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 270
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| Saffron .....when you used the phrase "counted too many errors to count" ... |
Actually, I posted the article, but I cannot claim the credit for writing it. That is an article by a journalist.
Norma Khouri used to pose as quite an expert on the Koran, and Islam - but she is now very discredited. _________________ O learn to read what silent love hath writ:
To hear with eyes belongs to love's fine wit.
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katlike

Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 4015 Location: If I told you, it would be a lame game of hide and seek.
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Norma Khouri used to pose as quite an expert on the Koran, and Islam - but she is now very discredited. |
Oh, so she's an imman... I see. _________________ [/islam].
FYI~ It takes glass one million years to decompose, which means it never wears out and can be recycled an infinite amount of times. |
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SaffronofMeshed

Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 270
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| katlike wrote: |
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| Norma Khouri used to pose as quite an expert on the Koran, and Islam - but she is now very discredited. |
Oh, so she's an imman... I see. |
What is an imman? _________________ O learn to read what silent love hath writ:
To hear with eyes belongs to love's fine wit.
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katlike

Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 4015 Location: If I told you, it would be a lame game of hide and seek.
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Oh dear, here we go again, I spelled it wrong yet again. iman, imman, imann, however it is spelled. You all try googling the word and coming up the correct spelling...go ahead, try it. It says, did you mean...**** and I click yes and then it never fails, it is wrong!
Anyways, I just meant, she must be an islamic preacher. Who else gets off on spreading so many falsehoods in one woeful tale. (did I at least manage to spell the last 23 words correctly?) _________________ [/islam].
FYI~ It takes glass one million years to decompose, which means it never wears out and can be recycled an infinite amount of times. |
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TheMadTurk
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 1265 Location: iSTANBUL
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Saffron, you may wince and whine and spread stories like that all you want - the FACT remains, that THOUSANDS of women get "honour-killed" in islamia over much LESS than a tryst with a christian.
Even OFFICIAL Turkish sources claim, about 1 woman EVERY DAY of the year in Turkey alone... and that does NOT count those, that get forced to commit suicide, or are slain by jealous husbands.
And that is TURKEY - the least vile of the vile moslem hell-holes. |
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Diotima,
ı want to make one thing clear. I have not heard even one case in my whole life that a turk has committed a honour killing. all these backward islamic people are turkish kurds.
ı dont want to be racist. and ı shouldnt be so ,since ı complain so much about european racizm. however if you can remember ,many times ı accepted eu s reasons to dislike foreigners. actually turks and kurds are both muslims. mostly same sect too. but kurds are far far backward muslims than turks. eastern turkey, kurdish area is really a hell. impossible to live. and those turks that you know in berlin and all over eu are mostly kurds.kurds do crimes, rapes, drug sellings ,mafia and everything. turks on the other hand ,also cant fully integrate to eu societies and stay distant from eu s. but turks are rather tolarant and peaceful people comparing to kurds. many turks are frustrated from kurds ,like me and unfortunutely someday we will have to say ''enough'' to this kurdish problem here too and seperate them. because they make too many babies, they commit too many crimes and theier islam is too overdose and they represent us very bad outside turkey.
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yeezevee
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 17109
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| TMT: ı want to make one thing clear. I have not heard even one case in my whole life that a turk has committed a honour killing. all these backward islamic people are turkish kurds. |
Tell me aboout YOUR ETHINICITY in Turkey dear TMT., and what is the difference between Islam of turkish kurds and yours..
with best
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TheMadTurk
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 1265 Location: iSTANBUL
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| TMT: ı want to make one thing clear. I have not heard even one case in my whole life that a turk has committed a honour killing. all these backward islamic people are turkish kurds. |
Tell me aboout YOUR ETHINICITY in Turkey dear TMT., and what is the difference between Islam of turkish kurds and yours..
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150 years ago in america 150 women were killed in a factory by male workers.and millions of such examples happened in west. women got their rights by fighting. yet still today there is discrimination against women in all over the world. ım sure millions of men are smacking their women right now. when did women have right to vote ? they are less paid in almost everywhere. ı am not quite sure if it is correct to blame everything bad happening on islam. yet ı am sure it has some effect on it.
in turkey western parts are more educated and live in the cities. and kurds live in more rural and distant areas. may be thats why it happens there. in the last 5 years 1806 known honour killings happened. and half of those murdered girls came out to be virgins .and ım sure there are at least twice of this happening that we never know.
this is extremely disgusting. but if we try to understand why this is happening,ı dont think this fully is a result of islam. if a girl looses her virginity in this primitive part of the world, two very important sociologic thing happens.
1. father and the rest of the family cant go out to the village. they will feel always ashamed. and nobody will talk to them .they live in a small place so that they cant run away to somewhere that nobody knows them. so they force an underage boy to kill the girl so that boy takes a less improsenment and family cleans the dirt.if it they lived in a city this wouldnt happen.because they would be able to hide this or simply move away from the place they live in.
2. family sells the girl to a man for merriage. but if the girl looses her virginity, than nobody will want her any more. and she will not make money any more. so they kill her.
in both cases extreme uneducation is the main reason. and ım not sure how much islam has part in it. whatever the reason this, is very shameful for humanity.
but as ı said. nothing like this happens around here .and individually ı want turkey to seperate these people from us.
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anna
Joined: 29 Dec 2006 Posts: 816
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TMT
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| ı want to make one thing clear. I have not heard even one case in my whole life that a turk has committed a honour killing. all these backward islamic people are turkish kurds. |
Aha - you have found a scapegoat. Poor Kurds who were murdered and persecuted by the Turks for years on end and still are.
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= 'brother murdering brother'.
What about the murder of 1 million or so Armenians by Turks? They were nót 'backward Kurds' but christians.
And why are the Kurds backwards - because Turkey likes to keep them that way! It's all about oil which the oil-greedy Turks want for themselves but really belongs to the Kurds.
I read that the Turks are standing at the ready to attack the Kurds - somewhere across her borders.
'Peacefull lot' indeed those Turks who were known for their gruesome cruelty during their many invasions and wars, and who drove thousands of Greeks out of their country where they had lived for centuries on end murdering them in the process and burning and looting their properties. Even now the Turks illegally occupy the ancient Greek island Cyprus.
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| many turks are frustrated from kurds ,like me and unfortunutely someday we will have to say ''enough'' to this kurdish problem here too and seperate them. because they make too many babies, they commit too many crimes and theier islam is too overdose and they represent us very bad outside turkey. |
Sure we say the same aboout áll muslims in óur countries.  |
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TheMadTurk
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 1265 Location: iSTANBUL
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Aha - you have found a scapegoat. Poor Kurds who were murdered and persecuted by the Turks for years on end and still are.
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I only try to point out that,although we are both muslims and even belong to the same sect, kurds commit those honour killings and not turks. try to comment on this fact ,instead of desperately trying to humiliate me. if we leave being racist and claiming that turks are superior to kurds as a race, which is probably a nonsense claim, than why are they so and we are not. ı dont know the answer either...
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What about the murder of 1 million or so Armenians by Turks? They were nót 'backward Kurds' but christians.
And why are the Kurds backwards - because Turkey likes to keep them that way! It's all about oil which the oil-greedy Turks want for themselves but really belongs to the Kurds.
I read that the Turks are standing at the ready to attack the Kurds - somewhere across her borders. |
and what about the french murder of ... millions in algeria and your former african colonies , and your bloody and imperialist history is actually the reason why you have extremely unhappy minoraties in your country today. and tomorrow when your ugly sarkozy become president you will even have worse days.
france is the number one architect of armenian tragedy happened in the past in turkey.you provocatede them to rebel. and now you cry together with them. crocodiles tears.
but what you say about kurds, that we caused them to be backward.may be you are right. there must be a reason to explain why they are so ignorant ,so fundemental religous, why dont like turkey etc.
we have not one drop of oil in turkey. and when you tell me abouıt being greedy, thinking that you are french ,you only make me smile my dear. but again turkey may anytime attack to northern ıraq because of kurdish terroırizm in south eastern turkey and to save turks living in kerkuk ıraq. but ı dont like this. ı hate wars and ı want a peacefull solution.
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'Peacefull lot' indeed those Turks who were known for their gruesome cruelty during their many invasions and wars, and who drove thousands of Greeks out of their country where they had lived for centuries on end murdering them in the process and burning and looting their properties. Even now the Turks illegally occupy the ancient Greek island Cyprus. |
actually, we won the war agaist to all of you imperialists, who tried to steal anatolia from us. and you try to do now, what you couldnt do on the war fields. you try to win the war in debates. hehehe so funny.
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Sure we say the same aboout áll muslims in óur countries.  |
that ı understand . but ı really dont respect to your country france or neither to you personally.
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almaz

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What about the murder of 1 million or so Armenians by Turks? They were nót 'backward Kurds' but christians.
And why are the Kurds backwards - because Turkey likes to keep them that way! It's all about oil which the oil-greedy Turks want for themselves but really belongs to the Kurds.
I read that the Turks are standing at the ready to attack the Kurds - somewhere across her borders. |
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| actually, we won the war agaist to all of you imperialists, who tried to steal anatolia from us. and you try to do now, what you couldnt do on the war fields. you try to win the war in debates. hehehe so funny. |
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Thief is happy that nobody took away from him the land that he'd stolen. I hope you will be happy as well when the stronger will come and apply the same kind of "rights belong to the stronger" attitude on you, you muslim occupier. _________________ In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second hand, and without examination.
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