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Iznogoodh
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 Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: The effect of Islam on Muslims: The African Continent |
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The darfurians have been manipulated by western Secret services to revolt against the central power. It is legitimate for the Government to struggle the rebellion |
How easy and simple your world is. Probably also the Chechens have been manIpulated by the West to revolt against Russia?
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those darfurians have their reasons...what are those reasons? why would they fight the goverment...if we want to find a way out this mess we have to ask our selves these questions.
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I would also like to know the reason why Muslims wholewide, Arab and non-Arab will demonstrate for the right to wear hijab, but turn a blind eye to the tragedy in Darfur??
Do Muslims view their lives to be cheap as compared to Arab blood?
Or are they scared of getting their haj privileges cut off if they appear to be too anti-Arab?
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| The civil war in Darfur has not been triggered by the central power, otherwise by the darfurians themselves. And they suffer from what they have done. If I were darfurian, I would be loyal to the government instead of revolting. |
By the same logic, the Russians would have a legitimate reason to carry out genocide on the Chechens, and the Chinese should also do the same to the Uighur Muslims in the Xinjiang Province.
Getting rid of all those trouble-making Muslims would make this world a little better, wouldn't you agree?
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| Getting rid of all those trouble-making Muslims would make this world a little better, wouldn't you agree? |
gupsfu...you might hate muslims so much...i can understand why. but talking like this makes you no differenet than OBL when he say "kill all the Americans".
the only way is to understand each other and try to help each other to build a better world!. |
No, my dear Lily.
The idea was originally mehdi_t's, not mine. I asked the question only to see how he's gonna react. Can't you see the sarcasm there?
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| The civil war in Darfur has not been triggered by the central power, otherwise by the darfurians themselves. And they suffer from what they have done. If I were darfurian, I would be loyal to the government instead of revolting. |
By the same logic, the Russians would have a legitimate reason to carry out genocide on the Chechens, and the Chinese should also do the same to the Uighur Muslims in the Xinjiang Province.
Getting rid of all those trouble-making Muslims would make this world a little better, wouldn't you agree?
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Dear Lily, do not interupt me.
I want to get an answer from him.
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| mehdi_t wrote: |
| The civil war in Darfur has not been triggered by the central power, otherwise by the darfurians themselves. And they suffer from what they have done. If I were darfurian, I would be loyal to the government instead of revolting. |
By the same logic, the Russians would have a legitimate reason to carry out genocide on the Chechens, and the Chinese should also do the same to the Uighur Muslims in the Xinjiang Province.
Getting rid of all those trouble-making Muslims would make this world a little better, wouldn't you agree?
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| mehdi_t wrote: |
| The civil war in Darfur has not been triggered by the central power, otherwise by the darfurians themselves. And they suffer from what they have done. If I were darfurian, I would be loyal to the government instead of revolting. |
By the same logic, the Russians would have a legitimate reason to carry out genocide on the Chechens, and the Chinese should also do the same to the Uighur Muslims in the Xinjiang Province.
Getting rid of all those trouble-making Muslims would make this world a little better, wouldn't you agree? |
The chechens struggle their independance since 200 years. |
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gupsfu
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| mehdi_t wrote: |
| The civil war in Darfur has not been triggered by the central power, otherwise by the darfurians themselves. And they suffer from what they have done. If I were darfurian, I would be loyal to the government instead of revolting. |
By the same logic, the Russians would have a legitimate reason to carry out genocide on the Chechens, and the Chinese should also do the same to the Uighur Muslims in the Xinjiang Province.
Getting rid of all those trouble-making Muslims would make this world a little better, wouldn't you agree? |
The chechens struggle their independance since 200 years. |
How long does it take for such a struggle to be considered by you as merited?
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:55 am Post subject: all wrong accustions |
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| The Crisis in Sudan although tragic, is not classifed as genocide in the UN. The Christians have been exploiting Africa for hundreds of years, they forced them into their religion, forced them into slavery, apartheid, and genocide. Muslims respect all skin colors not just Arabs, we are all equal. I am not an Arab and a practicing Muslim. One of Muhamads loyal apostle was an Ethipoian african named Bilal. Bilal was one of the first to recite the call to prayer and is respected among all Muslims. The crisis in Sudan is political not religious. Darfur contains many resourses that the Sudanese government needs. The Rebel groups are trying to create an independent state that could threten the unity of Darfur. The Rebel groups have commited mass atrocites agains humanity and even killed UN aid workers. The U.S is just tring to divert attention from Iraq into Sudan. It wont work, there will be no UN resolution because the Muslims will solve the proplem peacefully not the US. |
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