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Agaricus



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For goodness sake - I answered it on the same thread that I made that comment, after you had asked me about it. Maybe if you listened to people's answers when they give them, it would help.

I do not think bisexuals are "inferior", but I do think they are bad news for anyone to be involved with, in any intimate relationship. They are self-indulgent, and will betray and let down anyone who falls into a relationship by having temptations to "bat for the other side". A woman or a man will never feel secure in a relationship with such a person.

This is essentially the same answer I gave before, and as I had given it before, I saw no reason earlier on to acknowledge the question and repeat myself. But now I have repeated myself, I expect you to mount another tirade, even though I am trying to leave this thread to others to discuss, and attempt to draw me into another slanging match.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ixolite wrote:
piggy wrote:
ixolite wrote:
Homophobia should be classified as a disease.


What's "homophobia"?


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The word homophobia means irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals. It can also mean hatred of and disparagement of homosexual people, their lifestyle, their sexual behavior, or culture, and is generally used to assert bigotry[1]. Opposition to same-sex activism on religious, moral, or political grounds is also often labeled "homophobic".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia


Thanks Ixolite, that is very informative.

I notice it says "Opposition to same-sex activism on religious, moral, or political grounds is also often labeled "homophobic"."

People can "often label" lots of things, but it doesn't disqualify what is being said by the person being labelled.

Do you think that a word might be invented to label people who .....

have irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against hetrosexuality or hetrosexuals. It can also mean hatred of and disparagement of hetrosexual people, their lifestyle, their sexual behavior, or culture, and is generally used to assert bigotry. Opposition to opposite-sex activism on anti-religious, immoral, or gay-political-movement grounds is also often labeled "??????????".

In this case "femophobia" could be used.

Seems from the post above that Aggy might get labelled "biphobic", so what do you think?

Does that make you puke too?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My goodness, this folder is quite FAT but no solutions to the social, political, religious sexual problems of SEX..

Selfish genes of Heterosexulas, Homosexuals, bisexuals, sexysexulas at work..

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, actually I think "femophobia" is nothing else but sexism.
I don´t know if you can label Dr.A as biphobic, but when he is then I am, too. I never would want to have a partner that wants to have sex with other people. Bisexuals have the desire to have sex with both genders, so naturaly the aren´t very monogam. Hetero- and Homosexuals only have the desire to have sex with one gender, hence they are much more monogam.
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Like hetero- and homosexuals, bisexuals also can´t choose their sexuality, they are born that way.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dear friends, There was a fascinating show on discovery channel about this same Issue., It was about an young women(American) she always thought she was supposed to be born as "MAN", but unfortunately.. "THE GOD( whatever the dam god is) WAS CRUEL" so she spent her life until she was 25 as women. Clearly, it was a mental torture for her so she decided to go for medical solutions. She met couple of doctors and got herself prescribed testosterone(male hormone) guess what, after a year so she looks like a man, 2nd year she went for chest operation and became flat chest .. that is not a big deal now aday. And HE is living happily.


I am +ve the medical field will come up with suitable solutions for sexual problems of individuals. It is just a social and financial issue.

with best wishes to you all
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

piggy wrote:
Seems from the post above that Aggy might get labelled "biphobic", so what do you think?

Does that make you puke too?


You said your wife had a psychotic illness. Did she have this before or after she started living with you, piggy?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agaricus wrote:
piggy wrote:
Seems from the post above that Aggy might get labelled "biphobic", so what do you think?

Does that make you puke too?


You said your wife had a psychotic illness. Did she have this before or after she started living with you, piggy?


Before I met her.

We have been separated since way back when she opted out of our union to commit herself to the "care" of the mental institutions.......... I was left to care for two young children 2 1/2 and 4 months old.

She is coping quite well now since she has matured with age, with the advances in medications and support-systems, she is not so reclusive/withdrawn and paranoic.

She gets out and about with her friends and sports a lovely smile and shows confidence. ...... she is also an artist and this gives her a medium for expression and boosts here self worth.

She is in-touch with her children now, always getting in-touch with them on birthdays, christmas and family affairs.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sexual issues are intimate issues between consenting parties. As long as it involves no force, imposition, suffering etc etc...I do not see what the whole shebang is about, besides the hang ups of dogmatically motivated individuals.

I think, the more interesting issue at play, is why people are so hung up about sexual issues like homosexuality? What's the problem?

If boys want to bugger boys...and the buggeree and the bugerrer are both happy to do it....what's your f*uckin problem?

If girls want to "eat" girls...and the eater and the eaten has no problem....what's your f*uckin problem?

Go home, f*uck your wife or your husband...heterosexually...

Relax.

Don't f*uck others, by feeling righteous about how and who you f*uck.

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not understand Ali Sina. He said that the western culture is contributing to islamic takeover of the west. This notion maybe true but where is the proof. The burden of proof rest on the one who made the claim.

It is quite paradoxical because the same person is saying that more muslims are leaving islam than those converting to islam. If this is true then western immorality( according to Ali Sina )is not really a threat to western civilization.

What about other civilization such as hindu and other eastern civilizations. Measuring with Ali Sina yardstick they are at much higher moral standard than islam. But islam is still a threat to these civilizations.

Assuming that Ali is right and he provide undisputable proof, what are we going to do about it? Are we going to have moral police? Who is going to decide what is moral and what is not? Maybe we need to amend the American constitution and the defination of democracy in order to do this.

If we are just going to promote good moral value then what is the problem? We are free to preach our values as long as it is not against human ethics. This is the basic human right that is missing in most of islamic countries.

These questions are not easy to answer. But one thing we must never do is to take away the freedom of choice in order to impose our moral standard. The ends do not justify the means. Our efforts are meaningless if we become the beast that we are trying to slay.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yo ali,

I've been to may clubs. Some of them are GAY clubs. That has never affected my being strait.

Explain this to me...
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea I been to the local gay club too.

Dull place though, girls not interested and boys to interested

But I am good dancer, and admiring eyes are admiring eyes
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

God you're cheap Bolding!
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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God you're cheap Bolding!


What is cheap ? Me and how
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bolding Hansen wrote:
Yea I been to the local gay club too.

Dull place though, girls not interested and boys to interested

But I am good dancer, and admiring eyes are admiring eyes


You should only dance to the music of "Dire 'Straights'".

They claim to be the Sultan swingers.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bolding Hansen wrote:
Agaricus wrote:
God you're cheap Bolding!


What is cheap ? Me and how


Only teasing - don't take it seriously!
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