where are the news?

diotima64 · Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 16559 Location: middleearth

Could someone please tell me what happened to the news section? Are they on holiday? I really miss it!

paz · Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 741 Location: ǝuou

the automated news feed is not working. The column to the left is the manually updated news.

Sign up to help with the news here: http://www.faithfreedom.org/spip_login.php3?var_url=ecrire%2Findex.php3

You just find news articles related to Islam and you can submit them.
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Frodo Baggins · Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 3172 Location: Dar ul-Bacon

stonewall · Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 107

Frodo. Don't sweat the small stuff! I agree with Cyber girl, there is a bigger picture here.
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Ali Sina · Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 4607

This site is not going to censor "thoughts". Period.

This forum is created for the clash of opposing ideas. It belongs precisely to those who disagree with each other. As long the etiquette is observed, anyone with any opinion will not be banned.

A few months ago one administrator of the site, Jaska, started a thread calling it "Mutiny". This proves that people who are closest to this site have least understanding of its purpose. What does mutiny mean? Doesn’t it mean disagreement? Well that is why we are hear. We are here so people can express their disagreement without being censored.

If opposing views irk you, do not read them. If they are stupid then answer them. But do not ask me to censor people for expressing their views.

The sad reality is that many of us come from a world where people are divided into feuding groups based on their ideologies and allegiances. So it is natural for us to think in our traditional way, as soon as we find a group that we agree with. Soon we want to belong and form our own little like-minded club. After investing emotionally and with the passage of time we feel belonged to that group and we subconsciously pledge our allegiance to the members. Eventually we resent the presence of those who think distinctly from the ideologies that we and the core members share and to maintain the “purity” of the group we want more control and a better filtering mechanism in place so the unwanted elements do not contaminate the group.

I don’t say that is a bad thing. However that is not what I have in mind for FFI. I do not want to start a new cult where like minded people meet and the rest are seen as outsiders. When close friends of FFI start talking of “mutiny” or say things like “I do no more agree with the direction of this site”, it shows that these friends subconsciously want to create a new cult.

I do not think that is healthy at all. I do not want anyone agree with anything I say or do. You must be independent thinkers and do and say what feels right to you and if you want to express your disagreement with me, this is the place to do it. It won’t be “mutiny”, it would be freedom of expression, a quality that shows your maturity and independence of thought. It does not mean that you are right. It means that you are a free minded person.

And for your information this forum is not without moderation. But you simply do not feel it. Zhuang Ze said, the best government is the one that is not felt. We are running this forum according to Daoist precepts. Moderation is active, but you simply do not feel it.
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pilgrim · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 2054

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freeland · Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 179 Location: Italy

Sometimes I think many ex Muslims still can’t manage this kind of freedom. If you say something about Muslims you are generalizing, you are an extremist, you are a fascist and so on, even though we have the prove to say such things.
The purpose of a forum is to let people express their opinion, good or bad, nice or nasty; not to please someone avoiding hurting his/her feeling; in this case, Muslims feelings. Then if you feel hurt, offended, just say it. I read some very nasty posts by Muslims (who called us kuffars, monkeys and bastards); nobody asked to ban these guys; you just ignored them or respond in an intelligent way. I have the right to express my opinion, however you have the right not to listen to it or to agree with it. As far as I’m concerned I’m not here to offend Muslims just for the pleasure of doing it, but to expose the extremists and their religion. Of course we have nice Muslims and bad westerner, but the site is not about them. It should be clear. Most of the Muslims who come here get upset for what we write about Islam, especially about Muhammad, not for what we say about Muslims. I think newcomers can understand who’s the extremist and avoid him/her . (I don’t know why, but I feel I’m the one…)

"In our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either." --Mark Twain
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