How to Make a Religeon and Be No.1

Sehar · Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 236

How to make a religion? It is the easiest job than other jobs. If you want to get money, women, regard and other blessings then you may not waste your time and try to make a religion and propagate it by all hook and crook. I tell you authentic method and then it is up to your courage to take advantage from it.

After studying religions from Fetishism to Islam I concluded that there are FOURclandestine elements which are the bona fide core to create a religion. These are. Mana, Shuringa, Fear and Wants.

MANNA:

Manna is considered a mysterious power. Manna means to make a thing sacred or profane and it is a great powerful tool for making a religion, without Mann a religion cannot be formulated. For its achievement you need nothing to do. Your will and wishes are sufficient. Actually manna is not an external power. When we ascribe our good, holy and pure thought to a thing, the thing became for us as a sacred. When, we attach our ominous thoughts and passions with a thing. the thing became for us unholy and profane. All prophets have been using this method in formulation of their religion.

Every religion has divided all the things into Sacred and profane even days, trees, animal, bird, food and places are either sacred or profane. Sacred means blessed profane mean irreligious. Taboo and Haram relate to profane. Profane is considered a mysterious power which is negative and produces ill effects. In every religion sacred and profane are different. Hindu feels manna in cow when Muslims do not feels manna in it.

In Christianity, Esprtt is a form of Manna. Christians believe that a bit of the wine was left by Jesus in the cup which is yet present since 2 thousands years. They mix it in water and then drink from it. A portion of this water is put into another cup and mix water with it. The pope veneration is in it that he has sacred water, sacred wine and sacred bread. Pope is bearer of this spirit. The word Spiritual has construed from this belief.

A Muslim feels Manna in Kaaba, Quran, Zam Zam and in tomb of Prophet and Pirs etc. It is the power of manna due to which people go to the tombs and other sacred places and perform religious customs and rituals for getting the exalted power or worldly things. What is Zam Zam? Zam Zam is simple water but Muslim feel manna in it. They considered it sacred and every Pilgrimage brings it and distributed among other as a sacred gift. Even dates of Madina and Kaaba are also considered sacred and feel manna power in it. When Muhammad claimed that I am the beloved of Allah, universe has been created for my sake, I am the only means of salvation then the manna power (holy, sacred and exalted thoughts) of people automatically started working.

But a non Muslim does not feel this Manna in these things. When a believer touches these sacred things he rubs his hand with his face. But unbelievers do not do so because he did not ascribe Manna to those things.

So you must use Manna power. Ensure people that there are deep and unique relationship between you and God/Allah. What you want Allah wants that. And also ensure people that if one suspect on me God’s wrath will fall up him. Yes, Mosses mostly used to visit Allah/God, Jesus also visited many time his Allah/God. Their visits were on earth. Muhammad wanted to distinguish himself from predecessors hence he went to Arash above seven heavens to meet with Allah. You will have to visit your Allah/God too. If you want to be a greater prophet to Muhammad then you may not visit Allah. It will be more better that you invite Allah to visit your home to meet with you.

When the manna power of people started working consider ¾ part of your job has completed. Now you are free. Now you can advice people do not gaze women and girl but you can hug a 6/9 years baby child. People will not only deem you a sacred prophet but also will feel proud on hugging 6/9 years old baby and they will also try to follow your sunnah.

Shuringa Power

In the societies of Fetishism, Totoism and Animism there was a power namely Shuringa with specific people.

These are religious pundits who by this power play an interlink role between the people and religious customs which are spring by Manna. If Kaaba would have not ascribed Manna, no Muslim would bother to wear Haram, sacrifice goats, and make running between Safa and Marwa etc. It is the power of Manna which created some customs. Mullahs, Imams etc by the power of Shuringa play a vital role to preserve and interlink between people and customs. You can also say it sharing power i.e. you may give some power to Mufti, Moulvi etc so that they could preserve Manna. Jesus chose 11 persons but Jesus failed to get power. Muhammad succeeded in getting power hence he shared power with his friends. For example he exonerated 12 friends from all kinds of sins and announced that they will be gone directly in Paradise. He also gave many authorities to Ahlul Baits. There is no doubt that Muhammad was Wiseman. He had observed that his companions and Ahlul Bait will fight to each other for the sake of powers and money etc. So he made both them happy by sharing some power. That is how Sunni and Shia both praise Muhammad alike though they have great differences in beliefs, thoughts and religious customs.

FEAR
It is also a vital power which is necessary to use it. I feel fear of wrath of God/ Allah if I disregard these things. But non believers feel nothing so. Why? Because Mana is our own created imagination and we have attached it with these things. Fear blocks thinking powers. It will ease your job. People will feel fear of wrath of Allah/God and will not try to object on your deeds.

WANTS
Can you fulfill the wants of human being? No one can do this. Hence your may make promises for contentment of wants. In Arab, there were two main wants of a man i.e. Food and Sex. Muhammad repeatedly promised the follower that after the death they will go to Paradise and there will be plenty of food fruits, milk, wine, honey and beautiful girls having big bright black eyes. Create hate with the world so that people could not bother to ask you about worldly things. Instead you can promise with your followers that in Paradise Allah will give them the post of Secretary General of Angels Assembly, airplanes, cars and other sophisticated things.

When, you will announce your religion, you would face three kinds of people i.e. followers, Opponents and unrelated people. You may use followers to attack on opponents and unrelated people and loot their properties and kill them. Because they are not your enemy they are the enemy of Manna. Manna which have been given you by the supernatural being.

I hope you will take advantages from above.

For your encouragement, it may be noted that Mana Shuranga, Fear and wants are actually our thoughts, feelings and passions. These thoughts and passions enslave our mind and then we compel to give our bridle in other hands to control us.

mohammad · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 601 Location: Middle-East

for the sake of being kind ill reply to this 31 views, 1 reply topic

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Sehar · Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 236

Mr. muhammd,

I never anticipate of any reply. I only past somehow informative post which is not necceessary to be useful for every member. For your information, I neither have enought time to read all threads of Forum thoroughly and take part in any debate nor I re-check my post.

When we minus Mana, Shuranga, Fear and Wants tactices from any relgion the religion must be ended in smoke. Mana Shuranga, Fear and Wants are our feelings, passions and thoughts. It represent that relgions have no relation with any supernatural being. All these are tactices made be clever and cunning men.

[color=red]IF YOU OR ANY YOUR BROTHER HAVE COURAGE TO REFUTE MY THIS POST THEN WHY DO NOT DO YOU SO? IF YOU CAN ARGUE PLEASE START AGAINST IT BUT YOU AND YOUR BROTHERS WILL NEVER REFUTE THE FACTS OF THIS POST.[/color]
with regard,

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Want to start new religion which is better than Islam in every way?, Then better imitate Mr.Mohammed's style.

1. Copy some stories from bible, tell to the people that Allah has revealed to you and appointed you as last prophet.

2. If some christians and jews resist you and doubt you, make new revelation "don't take friends from christians and jews". Make them as dhimmies in your holybook.

3. Now you need more money to propagate your new cult further. This is where you have to apply your criminal brain. Tell your existing followers that Allah has revalead to me yesterday night to raid nearby banks, nearby highways, nearby towns. You also join in the expedition. Initially some of your followers may doubt you. But, Encourage your fellowers saying that Allah will send 5000 angels to protect you. It is legal in Allah's religions to raid infidel's place. It is all for Allah's cause. Even if you die for Allah's cause in police shooting, you can directly go to paradise in next second where Allah will give you 144 Virgins so that you can fuk them forever with never-ending erection. If you are homosexual, Allah is all merciful, He will give you 56 young boys to you. Now, you have morally boosted followers who are ready to do anything for you. Now, start the expedition, Get as many as booty as possible. Fuk all the pretty girls among the botty and make it legal for Allah's prophet with new new revelations. (You may ask why 144 virgins, 56 young boys. Just make sure your religions gives better incentives than Islam in every way)

4. Now some of your followers may doubt about your new cult's morality. Make a new revelation "Whoever leaves religion, kill them". Now you have ensured that whoever joins your religion can't leave.

5. Some jews may doubt your prophethood credentials and resist you. Change your prayer direction from Jerusalem to Kaaba. And, ask your followers to pray 50 times per day. So that they will feel it is better than Islam.

6. Now you have huge treasury, so many followers who are ready to do anything. Fuk as many girls as possible. Make sure all of them pretty, even if it is a 6 year old girl, or your own daughter-in-law don't miss it. If people doubt you, Produce new new revelations to make it legal for Allah's prophet.

This is what 6th Century highway robber, caravan raider, pedophile false prophet Mohammed(piss be upon him) did. Today more than 1 billion fools are following him and call him as highly morale, highly exemplary man to be imitated. Just do what mohammed did. Tomorrow 5 billion fools will join in your cult. All the best !

tarikur · Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject:

delight · Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 154

Let me tell you a story of a psycho
He went around beleivng he was prophet of God.But first he went for a baptism like a common man.He read old testament and beleived himself to be messiah.He found 12 more psychos and made the family of mad men complete.He was captured and killed like a rat by romans,all 12 madmen ran to save their life.But during the night,the sick b.. came and stole the body of the so called prophet.The madmen circulated many stories of his rising from death like dracula.Some wise men saw money in it,so they wrote a book about that madmen.So now these wise men live like rich men as clergy ,and rape nuns and choir boys,while thousands of fools still follow the madman.
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mohammad · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 601 Location: Middle-East

Sehar:

You mentioned something about heavan and promising the muslims virgins etc etc.

And then you asked why Mohammad (PBUH) did not mention things like cars, planes, electronics etc.

Here's my answer:

In every religion theres always a promise in the end of it. For every thing you do in this world, you will be most definitely rewarded for it. As a reward for believers of allah (god) the muslims were promised heavan where they would find anything they want. This includes virgins, palaces, mountains, greenery, food, drinks etc.<-- these things have existed from the beginning of time and until the end. women, men, homes, mountains, greenery, sceneries, landscapes, food and drinks will continue to exist until the end of time. cars, planes, electronics, however, might not make it until the end of time as natural resources become more scarce. also, if planes and cars and electronics do make it until the end of time, that still doesnt mean it existed during the past, therefore mohammad (pbuh) did not mention these things because of many reasons. and the biggest reason was that he wanted to avoid confusion between the people's thoughts and he cannot and should never reveal the future. the future is up to us to discover it. its not up to someone to spoon-feed us with these informations. the word car or plane might be different than today. had he said computers or cars or planes, then i doubt these words will be used today. perhaps another word mightve been created instead of cars to go against what the prophit promised.

also, the prophit did hint that technology will exist. he mentioned heavan will not be constant and will improve/innovate. technology is only a small fraction of improvement and only a small portion of innovation. a classic example is when someone tells you that your reward will be from a normal house to a palace. that, in a sense, is innovation and improvement. mentioning things like, a horse to a charriot, is another way to hint out innovations. however, using hard and complex words such as car and planes and electronics in the past was not a wise thing for anybody to do. if he had revealed those words then we mightve not had cars today. the slight revelations might alter the future.

i think you know by now that the quran is a book to be used at all times. this means that itll only mention/promise things which will remain constant. i.e. women, houses, food, drink etc. had it mentioned cars or planes, then it wont deserve being called a book of all times considering it mentioned something which just came to existance 100 years ago and might not exist in the future. should the prophet also mention future devices too? dont you realise if he had done that, he mightve altered the future and not to mention it mightve made one chapter unnecessarily long.
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Sehar · Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 236

When we minus Mana, Shuranga, Fear and Wants tactices from any relgion the religion must be ended in smoke. Mana Shuranga, Fear and Wants are our feelings, passions and thoughts. It represent that relgions have no relation with any supernatural being. All these are tactices made be clever and cunning men.

IF YOU OR ANY YOUR BROTHER HAVE COURAGE TO REFUTE MY THIS POST THEN WHY DO NOT DO YOU SO? IF YOU CAN ARGUE PLEASE START AGAINST IT BUT YOU AND YOUR BROTHERS WILL NEVER REFUTE THE FACTS OF THIS POST

My challenge is to refute this post....i.e. you may prove that these four elements are not the base /soul of your religion...... these four elements are actually our own passions and feelings we attach to a religion and reglion become sacred......if you are not agree with this, then you may prove if wrong.....

Mr. Tarikur is going wrong....... he may talk to the point. I am ant-religion how I can make a relgion. I do not want to expolit people. The main prupose of this post is to unmask the tactices used by socalled prophets and religeous persons. Previous age people were simple and less educated. I pointed out an event when Hazar Ali claimed in Kufa that I can reply to any question about earth and heave..... a man stood and ask can you tell me that how many hairs are on my head?.... In people having such mentality spreading of any kind of religion is not difficult. But today many is differnt. Today man suspect on their own beliefs and ask authenticity about it.

Muhammad,
Women, wine, greenry etc all things are relating to this world.... all things are matters.Matters needs changes, growth and decay......(otherwise stagnantion is the second name of death.) If all these things will be in heaven then the heaven is a replica of the world. Woman, guys, wine, milk, greenry, food, furits, canals, cloths, trees, birds what are these things? all these are replica of this material world. Hence heave is replica of material world and is an imaginary concept.

Copulation cause fertilization. Fertilization bears child birth. If fertilization is did not occur then it will be considered defect. If there is not any changes, growth and decay then there is not doubt that the heaven is a stagnant world. Stangnacy is the 2nd name of death. whoors, guys, greenry, canals, milks, honey, flowers, trees, birds etc denote that the heaven is nothing except an imaginary concept replica of this material world.

By the way you can try to reply the ROTTEN EGG......... ( if you Muslim have any Ghyrat) because you will never reply and refute this post...as these four elements are the basic soul of all religions.

Sehar · Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 236

Further add

Tree, plants, fruits and flowers etc all need some elements to sustain their lives some i.e. sunrays, air, mud even insects.

Men have sperms and whoore would have eggs. When they will copulate then child birth is certain. If child birth is not certain then it will be meant that there is some fault in their bodies and organs.

Tree, women, wine milk all proved that in paradise man will be as he is as in this world i.e. physical+ soul which is a good replica of this world.

All these proved that Paradise concept is nothing except a replica of this world used by prophets for motivational purpose. That is the case of Hell.

Muslim kiss Kaaba (the black stone) and Non Muslim do not consider it able to kiss it. Why? Because Muslims have attached the feelings of sacredness to kaaba. When a Hindus will attache his feelings of sacredness to Kaaba then he will also kiss Kaaba like muslims. Mana is power actualy it is nothing except our own feelings, thoughts and passion. If we divert it from Kaaba to Ganga then Ganga will become more sacred to Kaaba as Hindus consider.