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Are you an ex-Muslim?

I was born a Muslim and left it

23%

[ 34 ]

I converted to Islam and left it

[ 10 ]

I was interested in Islam but not anymore

[ 13 ]

I did not dislike Islam but now I do

30%

[ 45 ]

I always disliked Islam

21%

[ 31 ]

I am still a Muslim

[ 10 ]

I am not a Muslim but think Islam is as good as any religion

[ 4 ]

Total Votes : 147

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lily

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 100

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject:

Hume wrote:

Hi Lily may I ask where you live and where you are originally from?

see pm.

Arif Qurashi

Joined: 02 Apr 2004
Posts: 377

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Are you an ex-Muslim

Ali Sina wrote:

Please take part in this poll. I want to know the percentage of ex-Muslims in this forum

Born one now EXXX-Muslim

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tarikur

Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Posts: 172
Location: Your heart (listen to your heart and heart will guide you to the truth)

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:18 pm Post subject:

Ali Sina wrote:

Please take part in this poll. I want to know the percentage of ex-Muslims in this forum

Ali Sina, do you honestly think people will believe the number of ex-muslims on this forum. I know, I don't. Anyone can sit behind a computer and claim something which that person isn't, it is easy. Some so call "ex-Muslims" even said that they support nuking Islamic countries, which will only kill thier family and thier people. I know no real ex-Muslims want that.
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gupsfu

Joined: 06 Jul 2004
Posts: 7919

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:37 am Post subject:

tarikur (a Muslim) wrote:

Ali Sina wrote:

Please take part in this poll. I want to know the percentage of ex-Muslims in this forum

Admit it, Muslim. You cannot accept the fact that there are lots of ex-Muslims who found Islam to be the ultimate stupidity and left it. That's why you're resorting to denial and keep telling yourself that must not be true. Muslims are by consensus the most backward group of religionists in the world today, and many had found the courage to distance themselves from this backwardness, whereas you're only a coward who refuses to face the true and keeps lying to himself.
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doubting_thomas

Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 7379
Location: Western Hemisphere

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:48 am Post subject:

tarikur wrote:

Ali Sina wrote:

Please take part in this poll. I want to know the percentage of ex-Muslims in this forum

To be fair, tarikur, that discussion was about nuking Mecca, and not Islamic countries in general. Some discussion went on to include Pakistan and Iran. However, even these three Islamic countries taken together represent a small portion of the total number of muslims in the world. So your assumption that they were endorsing killing their familes and people is a bit of a stretch.

If you want to challenge that they are indeed ex-muslims, then we may equally challenge whether you are a real muslim or simply a troll trying to stir up trouble. I do not question that you are what you claim to be, neither should you question that they are what they claim to be. My guess would be that most ex-muslims wish they never were muslims at all - it's like admitting to having been an alcoholic or drug addict!

ex-muslim

Joined: 13 Aug 2004
Posts: 1111
Location: England

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:26 am Post subject:

doubting_thomas wrote:

My guess would be that most ex-muslims wish they never were muslims at all - it's like admitting to having been an alcoholic or drug addict!

In a way i don't mind being born as a muslim because since i've left it i've appreicated life much more. Sounds silly i know.

tarikur, is there any way that i can prove to you that i was born a muslim, and then i left it?

Is there? I don't think there is, so you're just gonna have to believe me. I know it hurts, but its true.

I've already made a thread where i read some arabic....... how many non-muslims do you know that can read arabic? Not many i presume.
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tarikur

Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Posts: 172
Location: Your heart (listen to your heart and heart will guide you to the truth)

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject:

doubting_thomas wrote:

I didn't say that from the thread "nuking Mecca" alone, I said from reading lot of similar threads. Lot of Islam-Haters who claim to be ex-Muslims openly supported nuking Islamic countries, stealing the Arab oil, no aid to Islamic land, stop Muslims immigration to the West, deport the Muslims from the West, and many harsh things for Muslims. I don't get why ex-Muslims want to hurt their family, their people, their country and themselves???

This one of thread, I openly the challenge the ex-Muslims why do want support that.
http://faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11310&start=30

doubting_thomas wrote:

If you want to challenge that they are indeed ex-muslims, then we may equally challenge whether you are a real muslim or simply a troll trying to stir up trouble. I do not question that you are what you claim to be, neither should you question that they are what they claim to be.

Here is difference me and ex-muslims. I don't care if you people believe me or not but ex-Muslims do. All I want is for you people to stop attacking Islam, respect other people's beliefs. On the other hand, Islam-Haters who claims to be ex-Muslims goes crazy, angry and mad if someone doesn't believe that they are the ex-Muslims. I really don't remember anywhere in the forum where I said "I am Muslim" or "Tarikur a Muslims", but lot of ex-Muslims either they have Muslims name (I wonder why they have a Muslim name, where they are not Muslim) or they say "by a ex-Muslim".

ex-muslim wrote:

tarikur, is there any way that i can prove to you that i was born a muslim, and then i left it?

Is there? I don't think there is, so you're just gonna have to believe me. I know it hurts, but its true.

No need to prove anything, you can find everything online. I can tell who is ex-muslim or not by how they write about Islam and Muslims. There are some ex-Muslims in this forum but most of people who claim to be one are not. But I do believe most of people who gave testimony leaving Islam are ex-muslims. If someone try to be imposter, make sure they can write like them.

Make note**, that lot of people who gave testimony of leaving Islam converted to Islam rather than was born into one, so they don't know much about Islam.

One thing I don't believe is the people who prayed 5 times (from their heart, not by force), fasted and observe lot of Islamic lifestyle leaving Islam.
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Ilovebetty

Joined: 11 Jul 2005
Posts: 1869
Location: Faster, Higher, Stronger

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject:

I am an Athiest (thank God). I haven't got a problem with (most) religons. I just can't see how anybody can believe in god creating the universe and all that, knowing what we know now about evolution etc. I mean, people used the think the world was flat. Earth was the centre of the universe, if you sailed far enough you would fall off the planet and so on. Religon to me was created to a) give people a faith and b) control the masses. Until proven otherwise, I will remain an athiest. Just a joke

Richard_The _Lionheart

Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 6166
Location: England

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:11 pm Post subject:

tarikur wrote:

Anyone can sit behind a computer and claim something which that person isn't, it is easy.

Plenty of people claimed to be Prophets of God too and it’s safe to say none of them were including Mohammed.

They did however spend their time enriching themselves with Plunder, attaining Power through murder and terrorism and repeatedly indulging in Sexual deviance.

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doubting_thomas

Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 7379
Location: Western Hemisphere

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:21 am Post subject:

tarikur wrote:

Yep, there are certainly some here who feel that way. I don't think they are a majority, nor even a substantial minority. I think they are a few. I don't know whether the one's who espouse preemptive nuclear strikes on muslim countries are ex-muslims.

As for stealing Arab oil, I advocate finding a cheaper permanent alternative to oil. Let the Arabs drink their oil.

Regarding no aid to Islamic lands, stopping muslim immigration, and deporting muslims - I'm 100% in favor of these. When you're ready to give up your racist and bigotted hatred of Christians and Jews, your ambitions of world domination, your intolerance of other beliefs, the relative ease with which you accept the murder of non-muslims, then we'll consider letting you come back. In the meantime, you should live in camel poop like your brothers.

tarikur wrote:

You only know how muslims think, and even then only those who belong to the same Islamic sect you do. The longer people are away from a cult - the more "normal" they become. You might be able to recognize someone who's apostasy was relatively recent, but you cannot read people minds. Nor should you presume that someone is lying just to fool you - you are not that important.

Humanist

Joined: 04 Sep 2004
Posts: 8520
Location: Kentucky, USA

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:

tarikur wrote:

The nuking Mecca thread is a natural result of the Western people being unjustifiably being attacked by Muslims. It was not Methodist who attacked America on 9-11. It is not Methodist who issue Fatwa's aimed at wiping out the Infidels. It was not Methodist who killed the kids in Breslin. It was not Methodist who blew up the trains in Madrid. It was not Methodist, but Bin Laden who declared WAR on the United States. It was not Methodist who blew up the underground in London.

I hate Islam. It is a bad religion that turns normal human beings into violent religionist.

I suppose at $60 a barrel the west is stealing Muslims oil. So if you are that dumb to think that commerce is stealing, then all you Muslims are stealing America's computers, TV's, cars, planes and all technology because none of it was invented by Muslims. What would Muslims do with the oil if the civilized countries did not need it? What about all the food the Muslims are stealing from the West. This line of reasoning is simply stupid. Stealing Muslim oil! Geez!

I have written my congressman and Senators and demanded that they never let another Muslim into the United States and I also demanded that all Muslim non-citizens be deported. The sooner the better. That is not racist just anti-muslim. Why am I anti-muslim? Because the Muslims hate my country, my life style, my lack of religion, freedom and they want to impose on my country their views. I love freedom thence I hate Islam because Islam is not compatible with America. Islam wants America to become Islamic. America is my country and I will do everthing in my power to make sure Islam is never given a chance to ruin the best country on earth.

If you Muslims want Islam then stay in those Islamic hell holes. Leave my country alone.
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dc2

Joined: 24 Jul 2005
Posts: 21

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject:

Why does it always have to be a conspiracy theory

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One thing I don't believe is the people who prayed 5 times (from their heart, not by force), fasted and observe lot of Islamic lifestyle leaving Islam.

Thank God they woke up to the fact, that, what was brainwashed into their heads
from the time of infancy, was not a path in the adulthood they wished to follow.
Maybe they are sick and tired of seeing how their religion is prepared and they have witnessed first hand the brutality of Islam's evil acts.

The killing of innocent people worldwide, not just 9/11 or London bombings, but in the rest of the world,
where your Islamic brother terrorist kill indiscriminately, children Beslan, Sudan, over two million displaced and
killed because they refused to bow to Islam..
Personally I have never hated people with different religions, but when I witness the scale of attacks on the so called infidels, it certainly opens one's eyes as to the great threat the world stands today. By no stretch of the imagination is this a flash in the pan.
I hate violence, I hate war, I hate guns, of course the tide of the infidel will turn with each devastating terrorist attack just strengthens the resolve of the infidels to overcome this brutal ideology
The word infidels insults my beliefs
and what I hold dear to life.
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ravkoy

Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 29

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:08 am Post subject: Refer old poll about the BELIEF TRACK RECORD of forum member

I conducted 11 months back simialar poll with wider options to know the background of the forum members for reference in future work . I request new members to see the results and also participate in the poll census of members religious belief track record by clicking on this link. http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3536 Another poll to know which religion is more HUMANITARIAN go to this link http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3489 _________________ Doubt everything, and find your own light. (Buddha) HUMAN welfare overrides GOD's SURVIVAL

Ali Sina

Joined: 13 Feb 2004
Posts: 4607

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject:

tarikur wrote:

Ali Sina wrote:

Please take part in this poll. I want to know the percentage of ex-Muslims in this forum

One thing you have not grasped yet is that for us ex-Muslims all people are equal. We have no such identity as Muslim any more. I see no difference between Iranians and Israelis, Britons or Japanese. I do not feel any closer to Malaysian or Moroccans than Peruvians or Australians. We are out of Islam, period. For us such identity does not exist anymore. We see mankind as one family. We see Muslims as stupid and backward brainwashed people who harbor hate, who divide mankind into “us” vs. “them” and kafir vs. Muslim. Such thing does not even exist in our thinking. We are people, just that and nothing else.

I do not like to see anyone killed. But what if Muslims nuke several western cities and kill hundreds of millions of people? Do you think the non-Muslims who in my view are the better part of humanity should sit on their hands and wait for more while Muslims like you harbor the terrorists and then come forth and say oh Islam is religion of peace these things are done by Jew? No sir! You are damn wrong. If any city in the West is nuked I am 100% for nuking tens of cities in Islamic countries. I don’t see Muslims as innocent people. They are all guilty as sin. It is not necessary to be part of al Qaida to be guilty. If you are a Muslim you agree with Muhammad and that is enough evidence against you. Did you read this article? http://faithfreedom.org/Articles/JenniferKing50804.htm Can you disagree with it? You sure can’t because this is what Quran says. I don’t want to see good people die while Muslim scumbags live and take the world. If any city is nuked I think the world should destroy the Islamic world completely in a way that they can’t have any strength to do anything. Any wait would only cause more death. This must be done decisively and immediately. Muslims must get the message loud and clear. If your terrorist brothers nuke one of our cities, we will nuke your world. I bet this will make the Muslims think twice and they then will see they can’t play the game of taqyyah saying we are the moderate Muslims and are against terrorism. If you are against terrorism why you follow the terrorist Muhammad? It is like saying, I love Hitler and do whatever he says but I am a peaceful Muslim and I am against killing people. That lie does not wash anymore.

I hope Muslims come to their senses and realize they are following a messenger of Satan, leave this cult of hate and murder and join mankind in amity. But time is running out. They are not listening and they are determined to do the ultimate stupidity. If that happens then there are only two alternatives. Surrender and allow Muslims to take over the world and establish the Kilafat or nuke them all and get rid of this curse and threat once for all. I vote for the second option. Mankind must survive and Muslims; either must leave Islam, put aside their hatred and join the rest or if they want to destroy mankind they must be destroyed first.

Does this mean my own relatives who live in Iran will die? Yes they will die. But what is the difference between them and my neighbors who live in the West? Why these people should die because people in my country are insane? I am doing my share to stop this insanity and stop this war. The non-Muslims can’t do much. They are under attack and they have to defend themselves. Muslims, as usual, are the aggressors. They must stop. They won’t unless Islam is discredited and destroyed. So I hope that Islam is discredited and eradicated soon and this war end. But if that does not happen, I stand on the side of the good people and not on the side of the savage Muslims, the aggressors, the terrorists.

Don't bother to respond if you don't read the link I gave you in this message. First tell me if you agree with that and if not what are you going to do about it? Are you ready to denouce it? This means denouncing Islam itself.
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ex-muslim

Joined: 13 Aug 2004
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Location: England

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject:

Ali Sina wrote:

I don’t want to see good people die while Muslim scumbags live and take the world. If any city is nuked I think the world should destroy the Islamic world completely in a way that they can’t have any strength to do anything. Any wait would only cause more death. This must be done decisively and immediately. Muslims must get the message loud and clear. If your terrorist brothers nuke one of our cities, we will nuke your world. I bet this will make the Muslims think twice and they then will see they can’t play the game of taqyyah saying we are the moderate Muslims and are against terrorism. If you are against terrorism why you follow the terrorist Muhammad? It is like saying, I love Hitler and do whatever he says but I am a peaceful Muslim and I am against killing people. That lie does not wash anymore.

^ Ali Sina please re-consider what you wrote there. Remember, a lot of us are ex-muslims so every single member of our family are muslims. Please don't blame them, instead you should feel sorry for them for being born into islam.
Don't wish for them to be nuked. I hope you don't wish that upon my relatives living back home in pakistan.

Thank you.
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