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hubp
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@ manta ray
Great post!
The average people are gullible and easily influenced by twisting
of the words and truth.
If you read the challenge sections on this site,
Ali Sina wants to do written debate with Naik, and he
doesnt accept, because in written debate,, as in most law cases
(majority of businesses or similar cases are argued on written papers,
I have seen a law case documents in the 300-500 pages long)...
because in written debates, you cannot twist things.. all are viewable
and lies can be detected.
Someone posted an article pointing Naik's video about muhammad
prophecy in hinduism, as false, because it's a completely different
person,, in another explanation there was a mention of Noah in
hindu scripture, with a boat,, but he is a completely different noah
from the bible!
Naik is a showman.. he twisted words and logic,, and the avg people
are easily influenced.. but if they use a bit of their logic,, they will
be able to see that islam is a False religion.. it was created by
muhammad, and their allah is a False God.
On another thread..I ask a simple question, and no muslim is
stepping to answer it lol.. logic matters!
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Brendalee
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I have refuted the claim of Mohammed being predicted in the New Testament many times here at FFI, as have many others - and yet they keep repeating it.
ALL they need to do is read the new Testament. Mohammed does not even REMOTELY resemble the "Comforter".
King James, St. John 14: 16-17 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever; EVEN the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you."
New English, John 14: 16-17 "And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another to be your Advocate, who will be with you forever - the Spirit of truth. The world cannot receive him, because the world neither sees nor knows him; but you know him, because he dwells with you and is in you."
New International, John 14:16-17 "And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counsellor to be with you for ever - the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you."
So you see, this Comforter/Advocate/Counsellor is, in fact, the Holy Spirit who Jesus asks God to send to his followers and disciples - and, in the New Testament, the experiences of Jesus' followers with the arrival of the Holy Spirit are told of.
Please note that Jesus did NOT say: OK, wait around for 600 years or so and God will send you a paedophile desert warlord with a fondness for slavery, torture, murder and rape. No, this Comforter made his appearance to the followers of Jesus right after his death, as he promised.
Furthermore, let's look at the description of the Comforter: it is specifically identified as the "SPIRIT OF TRUTH". Get that? IT IS A SPIRIT, NOT A MAN.
Nor is it mortal. Note that Jesus says that the Comforter will be with his followers FOREVER? (Er, didn't Mohammed DIE?)
And, just in case we had any doubts even after being told it is a SPIRIT, we are told that it cannot be seen. It is invisible!!!!
We are told that the world will not know it, but ONLY the followers of Jesus.
And then we are told that it will live WITH them, and IN them. In other words, in their hearts and souls.
No amount of blather can make this description fit the fake prophet Mohammed, who was NOT a "Spirit" (and certainly not the spirit of truth as he was an oath breaker and allowed his followers to lie to commit murder.). Mohammed was not sent to Jesus' followers after his death, but was inflicted on the world 600 years later. Mohammed died and did not stay forever with the followers of Jesus. Mohammed WAS seen and known by the world and does not live with and in the hearts and souls of Christians.
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hahahaha
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Okay, I just did some quick research and Bhavishya Purana seems to be the only place where Mohammed is mentioned.
Purana: Puranas are usually written in the form of stories related by one person to another. The stories are not necessarily historical events but are used to convey a truth.
Bhavishya Purana: The Bhavishya Purana is an ancient text authored by Ved Vyasa, the compiler of the Vedas. It is listed among the eighteen major Puranas. Bhavishya means "future" and Purana means "history", so the text's name would translate literally as "The History of the Future".
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Suta Goswami said: In the dynasty of King Shalivahan, there were ten kings who went to the heavenly planets after ruling for over 500 years. After their departure, gradually the morality declined on the earth. At that time Bhojaraja was the tenth of the kings on the earth. When he saw that the moral law of conduct was declining he went to conquer all the directions of his country with ten-thousand soldiers commanded by Kalidasa. He crossed the river Sindhu and conquered over the Gandharas, Mlecchas, Shakas, Naravas and Sathas. He punished them and collected a large ammount of wealth. Then the king went along with Mahamada (Muhammad), the preceptor of mleccha-dharma, and his followers to the great god, Lord Shiva, situated in the desert. He bathed Lord Shiva with Ganges water and worshipped him in his mind with panchaagavyya and sandalwood paste, etc. After he offered some prayers and pleased him.
Suta Goswami said: After hearing the king’s prayers, Lord Shiva said: O king Bhojaraja, you should go to the place called Mahakakeshvara, that land is called Vahika and now is being contaminated by the Mlecchas (barbarians). In that terrible country there no longer exists dharma (righteousness). There was a mystic demon named Tripura, whom I have already burnt to ashes, he has come again by the order of Bali. He has no origin but he achieved a benediction from me. His name is Mahamada and his deeds are like that of a ghost. Therefore, O king, you should not go to this land of the evil ghost. By my mercy your intelligence will be purified. Hearing this the king came back to his country.......
That city is known as their site of pilgrimage, a place which was Madina or free from intoxication. Having a form of a ghost (Bhuta), the expert illusionist Mahamada appeared at night in front of king Bhojaraja and said: O king, your dharma is of course known as the only true dharma. Still I am going to establish another religion by the order of the Lord. The symptoms of my followers will be that they first of all will cut their genitals, have no shikha, but having beard, be cruel, make noise loudly and eat everything. They should eat animals without performing any rituals. This is my opinion. They will perform purificatory act with the musala or a pestle as you purify your things with kusha. Therefore, they will be known as musalman. Thus the adharmic religion will be founded by me. After having heard all this the king came back to his palace and that ghost went back to his place.
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This is the actual paragraph from the book Bhavishya Purana as mentioned by OP. It is clear how the words are twisted, eliminated to hide that Muhammed is mentioned as a perceptor of a barbarian faith.
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yeezevee
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| Bhavishya Purana: The Bhavishya Purana is an ancient text authored by Ved Vyasa, the compiler of the Vedas. It is listed among the eighteen major Puranas. Bhavishya means "future" and Purana means "history", so the text's name would translate literally as "The History of the Future". |
Do you have any link on that ORIGINAL SANSKRIT version of Bhavishya Purana dear hahahaha?? And you should also give the link to what you worte in your post..
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The Bhavishya Puráńa, as I have it, is a work in a hundred and
twenty-six short chapters, repeated by Sumantu to Śatáníka, a king of the Pańd́u family.
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| He notices, however, its having originated with Swayambhu or Brahmá; and describes it as consisting of five parts; four dedicated, it should seem, to as many deities, as they are termed, Brahmá, Vaishńava, Śaiva, and Twásht́ra; whilst the fifth is the Pratisarga, or repeated creation. Possibly the first part only may have come into my hands, although it does not so appear by the manuscript. |
Whatever it may be, the work in question is not a Puráńa. The first portion, indeed, treats of creation; but it is little else than a transcript of the words of the first chapter of Manu. The rest is entirely a manual of religious rites and ceremonies.
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| It explains the ten Sanskáras, or initiatory rites; the performance of the Sandhya; the reverence to be shewn to a Guru; the duties of the different Ásramas and castes; and enjoins a number of Vratas, or observances of fasting and the like, appropriate to different lunar days. A few legends enliven the series of precepts. That of the sage Chyavana is told at considerable length, taken chiefly from the Mahábhárata. The Nága Panchami, or fifth lunation, sacred to the serpent-gods, gives rise to a description of different sorts of snakes. After these, which occupy about one-third of the chapters, the remainder of them conform in subject to one of the topics referred to by the Matsya. |
They chiefly represent conversations between Krishńa, his son Śámba, who had become a leper by the curse of Durvásas, Vaśisht́ha, Nárada, and Vyása, upon the power and glory of the sun, and the manner in which he is to be worshipped. There is some curious matter in the last chapters, relating to the Magas, silent worshippers of the sun, from Sákadwípa, as if the compiler had adopted the Persian term Magh, and connected the fire-worshippers of Iran with those of India. This is a subject, however, that requires farther investigation.
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| The Bhavishyottara is, equally with the preceding, a sort of manual of religious offices, the greater portion being appropriated to Vratas, and the remainder to the forms and circumstances with which gifts are to be presented. |
Many of the ceremonies are obsolete, or are observed in a different manner, as the Rath-yátrá, or car festival; and the Madanotsava, or festival of spring. The descriptions of these throw some light upon the public condition of the Hindu religion at a period probably prior to the Mohammedan conquest. The different ceremonies are illustrated by legends, which are sometimes ancient, as, for instance, the destruction of the god of love by Śiva, and his thence becoming Ananga, the disembodied lord of hearts. The work is supposed to be communicated by Krishńa to Yudhisht́hira, at a great assemblage of holy persons at the coronation of the latter, after the conclusion of the great war. |
says the link at http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/vp/vp013.htm
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ranull
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wel, ppl i'v tried to transliate and translate da sanskrit text
text of bhavishya purana, taken from here
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/purana0.html
posted by DR Z HAQ, an ally of DR LIER NAIK
translation by Dr Lier Naik
http://www.islam101.com/religions/hinduism/Mhs.htm
background of the verses!!
The ‘Pratisarg parva’ of Bhavishya Puran , 3rd khand
“The Shalivahan’s had ten generations. They reigned for 500 years and when they departed there remained no limitations of the Bhoolok for them. The tenth King, Raja ‘Bhoj’ was powerful. He with ten thousand soldiers, Brahmins & Kalidas set off for universal conquest. Crossing the Sindhu, he conquered the ‘Mlencch’ in Gandhar and the ‘Shath’ in Kashmir. King Bhoj grabbed their treasure and then punished them.
In the mean time, an illusory mlencch named Mahamadh ............
3rd khand 5-27
mahamadh ithi khayat, shishya-sakha-samniviyath 5
nupyashav mahadev marusthal nivasinam.
bhojne mahadevthe snanya-pya punch-gavua samnivithya
chandan-adhi bhirmav-charya tuvach mansa haram 6
bhojraj ucchav: namaste girijanath-marusthal-nivasine
tripurarsur-nashav bahu-maya pravathiney 7
malech-dharma shav shudhaya sat-chit-anandaya swarupye,
thva ma hei kinkare vidhii sharanaghatham 8
popular in here muhamad, with diciples and friends.`
lord of all arts mahadev[shiva], situated in desert!
king bhoj bathed mahadeva with punch-gavya[ 5 products of cow]
sandelwood etc,. within his mind.
bhojraj devotionally said: namaste o' girijanath [shiva] situated in desert,
o' destroyer of tripura-demon with all illusion, thy form of Truth, Consciousness, Bliss, untouched by malecha-dharma, i'am in thy protection.
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DR LIER NAIK
"A malecha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking a foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mohammad. Raja (Bhoj) after giving this Maha Dev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the Panchgavya and the Ganga water (i.e. purifying him of all sins) offered him the present of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, "I make obeisance to thee. O ye! The pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malecha opponents." |
sooth uchav: ithi shurthiya sthav deva shabadh-mah nupaya tam,
gath-vaya bhojraj-ney mahakhaleshwar-sthale 9
malech-shu dhushita bhumi-vahika nam-vishritha
arya dharma hi nav-vathra vahike desh-darunya 10
vamu-vatra maha-mayi yo-sav dagdho myaa pura
tripuro bali-daithyane proshith punaragath 11
ayoni sa varo math prasava daithyo-vrudhan
mahamadh ithi khayath , paishacha-kruthi thathpar 12
nagathvaya thvya bhup paisachae desh-vartake
math prasadhayane bhupal tav shudhii prajayathe 13
sooth[narrater] said: after hearing, bhoj's devotional words, lord [shiva] said: o'bhojraj, thy should proceed to mahakaleshwar,
this land is polluted by malecha's ,ayra-dharma has been diminished , no righteousness exists in this horrible land of vahik.
The mahamayavi (highly illusory) Tripurasur [whom I had burnt ] has again come there, by the order of bali-demon, He is the one who is increasing the demons and is casteless.
He has attained a boon from me and is becoming popular by the name of ‘Mahamad’. He is fast in demoniac actions.
That is why O King, be not here in this demoniac land. O King, you will be purified by my blessings.”
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"The Malecha have spoiled the well-known land of the Arabs. Arya Dharma is not to be found in the country. Before also there appeared a misguided fiend whom I had killed; he has now again appeared being sent by a powerful enemy. To show these enemies the right path and to give them guidance, the well-known Muhammad (pbuh), is busy in bringing the Pishachas to the right path. O Raja, You need not go to the land of the foolish Pishachas, you will be purified through my kindness even where you are. |
thi shruthva nupshav svadesha-napu maragmath
mahamadh toi sadhav sindhu-thir mupaye-yav 14
uchav bhupati premane mahamadh-virshad
tva deva maharaja das-tva magath 15
mamo-chit sabhu jiya-dhatha tatpashya bho nup
ithi shruthya ththa hata para vismaya-magath16
malechdhano mathi-shasi-tatsaya bhupasaya darutho17
Listening to this, King Bhoj returned back to his kingdom. Mahamad too acompanied him to the banks of the river Sindhu. Affectionately he said to King Bhoj, “Your Lord who is expert in all arts, has now become my slave. See how he eats my left over food.” King saw all that happened.
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| DR LIER NAIK ... ignors...14-17 |
tucha tva kalidas-sthu rusha praah mahamadham
maya-thei nirmithi dhutharya nush-mohan-hethvei 18
hanishyami-duravara vahik purusha-dhamum
ityak va sa jidh shrimanava-raja-tathpar 19
japthya dush-sah-trayach tah-sahansh juhav sa
bhasm mutva sa mayavi malech-dev-tva-magath 20
maybhithashtu tachya-shyaa desh vahii-kamayuuah
guhitva svaguro-bhasm madaheen tva-magatham 21
swapiit tav bhu-ghyot-thro-shrumadh-tathpara
madaheen puro jath thosha trith sayam smurthaum 22
Kalidasa seeing the King engrossed in the illusion created, said to the illusory Mahamad, “O cunning Mahamad, you have constructed an illusion to hypnotize the King. I will destroy the wicked bâhik Saying this, the glorious Brahman performed a ceremony of chanting the navârß jap ten thousand times. He made offerings of one tenth of those in a sacred fire (hom). As a result, the illusionary mlencch transformed into divine ashes.Seeing this, his disciples’ fleed to the bahik lands. They buried the ashes of their Guru and stayed there itself. That place is named as Madaheen (presently known as Madina)
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| DR LIAR NAIK... ignors ... 18-22 |
rathri sa dev-roop-shav bahu-maya-virshad
paisacha deha-marathaya bhojraj hi so trivith23
arya-dharmo hei to raja-sarvoutham smurth
ishapraya karinayami paishacha dharma darunbhu24
At night, the highly illusionary (Mahamad) who was transformed in devine ashes, taking the form of a demon said to King Bhoj, “Your Ârya dharm is the only dharm that is superior of all. But by the orders of God, I will create a demoniac religion.
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DR LIER NAIK
At night, he of the angelic disposition, the shrewd man, in the guise of Pishacha said to Raja Bhoj, "O Raja! Your Arya Dharma has been made to prevail over all religions, but according to the commandments of Ishwar Parmatma, I shall enforce the strong creed of the meat eaters. |
linga-chedri shikha heen, shamshu dhari sa dhushak
uga-laapi, sarva-bhakshi bhavishyati jano mum25
vina kaul cha pashva-stosha bhakshava mata mum
musal-nevo sanskar, kushariv bhavishyathi 26
tasma- musal-vanto hee jathiyo dharma-dhushika
ithi pisacha-dharma bhavishyaat mayaa kruth27
My fellowmen will be those who will do circumcision , will be without shikhâ (the tuft or lock of hair left on the top of head at tonsure), will have beard, will loudly hum in tune , and will eat every thing (sarvabhakshak). I am of opinion that one should eat everything.
As the Kushas, their sanskar will be done by MUSAL, hence their musalman sect will pollute all other religions. Such will be my demoniac religion in future”
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My followers will be men circumcised, without a tail (on his head), keeping beard, creating a revolution announcing the Aadhaan (the Muslim call for prayer) and will be eating all lawful things. He will eat all sorts of animals except swine. They will not seek purification from the holy shrubs, but will be purified through warfare. On account of their fighting the irreligious nations, they will be known as Musalmaans. I shall be the originator of this religion of the meat-eating nations." |
glory to our sages!!!!
btw, bhavishyapuran text also supports that: kaaba was/is a shiva temple!!
muslims , while kissin the black stone should remember , tis LORD SHIVA's linga [penis] 
apart from bhavishya purana, nowhere else mo is mentioned in hindu-scripture, tis mere lies of ZAKIR naik |
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yeezevee
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I am not sure whether this Chronology of indian subcontinent is right or wrong but the link at http://www.thevedicfoundation.org/bhartiya_history/chronology.htm#10
gives about Hinduism and its kings at various times
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Bhartiya Chronology 3228 BC - 1947
(BC)
3228 Descension of Bhagwan Krishn
3139 The Mahabharat War
Start of Brihadrath dynasty of Magadh
Start of Yudhisthir dynasty of Hastinapur
3102 Ascension of Bhagwan Krishn
Start of kaliyug
2139 End of Brihadrath dynasty
2139-2001 Pradyot dynasty
2001-1641 Shishunag dynasty
1894-1814 Gautam Buddh
1641-1541 Nandas
1541-1241 Maurya dynasty
1541-1507 Chandragupt Maurya
1507-1479 Bindusar
1479-1443 Ashokvardhan
1241-784 Shung and Kanau dynasty
784-328 Andhra dynasty
509-477 Jagadguru Shankaracharya
328-83 Gupt dynasty
328-321 Chandragupt Vijayaditya
326 Alexander’s invasion
321-270 Samudragupt Ashokaditya Priyadarshin, or
Ashok the Great
102BC-15AD Vikramaditya, established Vikram era in 57 BC
(AD)
25-85 Shalivahan, established Shalivahan Shak era in 78 AD
85-1192 There were several kingdoms of Rajpoot kings all over
India. They ruled for 1,107 years.
1192-1757 In 1192, Mohammad Gori invaded Delhi (Hastinapur) the
second time, defeated and killed Prithviraj Chauhan, and
became the king. Since then several dynasties of
Muslims ruled India for 565 years.
1757-1947 In 1757 English regime was established in Bengal.
British ruled India for 190 years.
1947 India got Independence |
It is remarkable to see how, the continent with different languages right from 2500 years back stuck together and still kept it that way., that credit should go to Indians/Hindus/Hinduism...
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latentheat
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Even a dog is submissive to The Lord of the World, but not you guys..
Well watever, Allah swt have completed His favor and you guys recieved the message, and you reject it, then that's ur choice.. but you cannot reject the day of judgement...nor you can getaway from it.. |
debate007 if u gonna translate the simple meaning of mahamada or mohamad in sanskrit. 'Moha' means 'illusion' and 'mada' means LUST. it shows name mohamed means the 'ILLUSIVE LUST'. n i will not gonna waste my time what mohamed had done to 9 year old ayesha and other women. you all know the rapist's LUSTY background at least He remained loyal to his name. Ps.,wait ..adding ..info
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latentheat
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| debate007 wrote: |
Even a dog is submissive to The Lord of the World, but not you guys..
Well watever, Allah swt have completed His favor and you guys recieved the message, and you reject it, then that's ur choice.. but you cannot reject the day of judgement...nor you can getaway from it.. |
debate007 if u gonna translate the simple meaning of mahamada or (mohamad) in sanskrit. 'Moha' means 'ILLUSION' and 'mada' means LUST. it shows name mohamed means the 'ILLUSIVE LUST'. n i will not gonna waste my time what mohamed had done to 9 year old ayesha and other women. you all know the rapist's LUSTY background at least He remained loyal to his name. |
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yeezevee
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latentheat comes out with an interesting correlation between Muhammad's actions and that "Hinduism purana" prediction.
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| latentheat: ..in sanskrit. 'Moha' means 'ILLUSION' and 'mada' means LUST... |
Assuming latentheat's translation is correct unlike that Dr. Naik and those words also present in that "Hinduism purana" And.. and coupling that translation with our debate007's words
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| debate007:..Even a dog is submissive to The Lord of the World NOT YOU GUYS,.. |
what we can conclude is that debate007's words indeed fits to that Hindu purana prediction. debate007 and latenetheat's words make's yeezevee to consider the following
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| "Our Illusionary lusty Dog(Muhamada) is submissive to the Lord of the world(which in a way is "Sex"). |
So the question is , could we consider "The Lord of the world is nothing but "Sex"??...A careful thinking say "Yes". After all without that there will be vety little biological field on this earth.. And ,more importantly, I was not wrong all these times when I was calling Muhammad as "Sex Obsessed Rascal" ..
So dear latentheat, are you sure your traslation is "CORRECT"? or do we have multiple meaning for those words in Sanskrit.. similar to that other language "Arabic"?
Oh well, it is God's fault for creating Muhammad, So we can not blame Muhammad but God...
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hahahaha
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| Bhavishya Purana: The Bhavishya Purana is an ancient text authored by Ved Vyasa, the compiler of the Vedas. It is listed among the eighteen major Puranas. Bhavishya means "future" and Purana means "history", so the text's name would translate literally as "The History of the Future". |
Do you have any link on that ORIGINAL SANSKRIT version of Bhavishya Purana dear hahahaha?? And you should also give the link to what you worte in your post..
says the link at http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/vp/vp013.htm
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Hi Yeezeevee,
I found the Bhavishya Purana on google search. Sorry, I forgot to post the link. Anyway as I can see, the poster above has done an excellent job translating the original scripture.
Its clear that although the Bhavishya Purana mentions Mohammed, it clearly mentions him as a lustful, evil man who is going to form a demonic religion. Naik and Muslims have twisted the words of the Purana to suit their ways.
Its amazing that the ancient wiseman (sage) had predicted and warned about Islam. |
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hahahaha
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delete duplicate post
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hahahaha
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| latentheat wrote: |
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Even a dog is submissive to The Lord of the World, but not you guys..
Well watever, Allah swt have completed His favor and you guys recieved the message, and you reject it, then that's ur choice.. but you cannot reject the day of judgement...nor you can getaway from it.. |
debate007 if u gonna translate the simple meaning of mahamada or (mohamad) in sanskrit. 'Moha' means 'ILLUSION' and 'mada' means LUST. it shows name mohamed means the 'ILLUSIVE LUST'. n i will not gonna waste my time what mohamed had done to 9 year old ayesha and other women. you all know the rapist's LUSTY background at least He remained loyal to his name. |
A slight correction...from the little sanskrit I know, I think "Moha" means Lust or temptation (Mohini = tempting) and "Mada" means Intense addiction. (the sanskrit word for liqueur 'Madira' comes from the root 'Mada'). So Mohamada will be roughly translated as "Someone Intensely addicted to Lust." Still the rest of your conclusion remains valid. |
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piscohot
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| hahahaha wrote: |
| latentheat wrote: |
| debate007 wrote: |
Even a dog is submissive to The Lord of the World, but not you guys..
Well watever, Allah swt have completed His favor and you guys recieved the message, and you reject it, then that's ur choice.. but you cannot reject the day of judgement...nor you can getaway from it.. |
debate007 if u gonna translate the simple meaning of mahamada or (mohamad) in sanskrit. 'Moha' means 'ILLUSION' and 'mada' means LUST. it shows name mohamed means the 'ILLUSIVE LUST'. n i will not gonna waste my time what mohamed had done to 9 year old ayesha and other women. you all know the rapist's LUSTY background at least He remained loyal to his name. |
A slight correction...from the little sanskrit I know, I think "Moha" means Lust or temptation (Mohini = tempting) and "Mada" means Intense addiction. (the sanskrit word for liqueur 'Madira' comes from the root 'Mada'). So Mohamada will be roughly translated as "Someone Intensely addicted to Lust." Still the rest of your conclusion remains valid. |
debate007 now wished that he never brought up this topic. (Curse be to quacker Naik!!!)
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darth
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Its amazing that the ancient wiseman (sage) had predicted and warned about Islam. |
Please note that bhavishya puran has been modified until the 19th century and so you cannot place any reliability in its contents being prophecies. |
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yeezevee
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| darth: Please note that bhavishya puran has been modified until the 19th century and so you cannot place any reliability in its contents being prophecies. |
This bhavishya puran thing is going on for so many years, it appears no one knows .. what has been written in the opriginal scriptures? when? and who modified and when? Hindus should work bit harder to get to the bottom of it. In fact for some guys who knows Sankrit, It is a good project to write a clean book on that to put this controversy to rest..
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