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shiloh

Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 98 Location: On the Rock
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Like a dog that returns to his vomit;
we must label these tortured souls islamic
Too many good people have been lost on the way;
while multitudes of muslims bow down to muhammeds evil five times each day
Like lambs ignorantly led to their slaughter;
we see muhammeds misogyny destroying muslim daughters
So take my advice for whatever its worth,
you can leave islam today, because humans are not really born a muslim from birth  _________________ American Against Islamic Infiltration and Dhimmitude |
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TheOtherWhiteMeat

Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 1741 Location: Dar Al-Harb
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Blessed are the cheesemakers! _________________ A voice from heaven should be ignored if it is not on the side of justice. ~ Isaac Bashevis Singer
It wasn't you who killed them, it was Allah. ~ 8:17 |
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shiloh

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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:31 am Post subject: |
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Monty python said it well..blessed are the cheesemakers _________________ American Against Islamic Infiltration and Dhimmitude |
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Ali Sina
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The new messiah wrote back. I read part of it but don't have time to read the rest or respond to him.
~ The 'Ali Sina' response Paper ~
Response to Ali Sina of < faithfreedom.org >
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Terence Al-Imam Al-Mahdi < www.dar-es-salaam.org >
Dear Ali, I 'respond' to your 'open' on line letter to me of 19 December, and comment as follows:
Ali says: Thank you for responding. faithfreedom.org does not preach anything.
Terence replies: It is a proven fact Ali that 'darkness' blinds the ignorant through their pride and vanity and other 'sin' within, being their negative emotions. I say this because you are a self proven 'Liar' but see it not.
For you say: "faithfreedom.org does not preach anything." - - - This is FALSE, for what you have "preached' in your letter to me is:
Ali says: "This time the danger comes from Islam."
So you are teaching by preaching 'something' about which you know naught, for you 'loosely' use the word 'Islam' as though the 'word' ISLAM is the danger or, you are implying that all those that 'profess' from their mouth that they align themselves with the religion named 'Islam' are the danger or, you are implying that the 'text' recorded in the Islamic Koran is the danger.
You need to 'try' and separate the ideology of the Word (Islam) from the actions of those professing to be believers in Allah and thus 'good' followers of the religion named Islam. For there are both 'good & evil' in people, and thus also good and evil people. I give you an extract from my web site:
"The word 'Islam - Aslama' implies that one will attain inner peace and external peace through obedience to the peaceful & compassionate & merciful & forgiving doctrine of Allah/God, through the right 'submission' to, and by 'embracing,' the Command of Allah that says:
"Go your way in peace and do not disturb the peace of the land for any reason and, - - - if you are abused by any other then you must not retaliate, you must turn the other cheek and remain humble and meek and, - - - you must forgive your perceived enemies and, - - -
you must be merciful and compassionate towards them as you forgive them of their errant sinning ways and, - - - if you are put to the sword by them then you must 'die' without defending yourself, as you 'go' as a 'lamb' to the slaughter."
The word 'Peace' that is used by Allah to describe the code of conduct that must be adhered to by all aspirants to Salvation, is the doctrine that results in their spirit soul becoming freed from inner sin and, - - - then being able to enter into Paradise (Heaven) and, - - - this word 'peace' has many 'connotations,' for it also encompasses the many negative expressions that cause man to 'stumble' along his path, and that lead him astray from the true way.
The above is an extract from page 1 of my 'Islam' document.
< http://www.dar-es-salaam.org/web/islam1.htm >
I go on to say that the word 'Allah' is simply the Arabic sound vibration that refers to the Creator, being the word 'God' in the English language, or in my 'mother' African Kiswahili language it is 'Mungu.'
The known fact that, - - - not all 'followers' of the religion named 'Islam' or the religion named 'Christianity' are peaceful and thus conform to the above dictates of the Creator, - - - does not imply that the 'core' truth of either religion is in error. It is those individual people of politics or religion teaching the use of dark terrorist or 'warring' interaction that are in error.
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Thus it follows that the ideology of the religion Islam or Christian is correct, being peace & love & mercy & compassion & forgiveness. It is but that man has lost his way and all now believe in confrontation and unforgiving and merciless persecution that is the wrong way because - - - -
The religious teachers have falsely taught them so, and I now again for Allah bestow the TRUTH upon all mankind of every religion, so as to give them a last chance to become real men, that have the courage to not retaliate and not promote 'hatred' against the religion named Islam as you do.
I ask you Ali, how can you say that "faithfreedom.org does not preach anything." when you say so much to me that I see as 'preaching' - - - and you also preach it to the world on line on your web site. Is it to denigrate me also? For you say: Terence, I think your problem can be solved if you visit a psychiatrist. Not only this Ali, but the content of your last page is all 'preaching' is it not? So in fact your '.org' is very much involved in preaching that it disguises as freedom through 'enlightenment.'
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Ali says: There is not a particular ideology that we subscribe to.
Terence replies: This is FALSE, for your 'ideology' as proven by your 'pen' is one of criticism and condemnation and 'judgement' upon others and their 'religion' and their 'beliefs,' and you also have taken it upon yourself to 'ideologically' condemn their belief as being in 'opposition' to your own.
Do you not see Ali, that those that terrorise or those that criticise are 'both' of the same dark punitive ideological belief?
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Ali says: We are a group of people dedicated to demonstrate that the world is facing a great danger akin or perhaps worse than what happened six decades ago that destroyed sixty million lives.
Terence replies: This appears to be a TRUE statement Ali, the only problem is, - - that it is the 'likes' of you that are a 'part of' and 'complicit to' the cause of the problem. For you are inciting and breeding hatred.
For the escalating insanity and confrontation is due to the darkness (Dark energy source) that is the 'avenger' that fulfils the dark side of God's one Law in operation through the minds of the vain, arrogant, and ignorant.
Being the 'infidels (non-believers) as you and most that have not 'heard' Allah's call to "Go your way in peace and be merciful, be compassionate, be forgiving, and educate those yet 'sinfully' living."
Allah's singular Law states:
"As you do is done unto you" - As you sow so shall ye reap"
It follows that those that are peaceful and give goodness and are loving and kind receive a 'similar' equal and equitable return from ALLAH via the hands of the 'kind & good' of love and kindness and live in peace.
It follows that those that do disturb the peace of others and wage war and terrorise and destroy receive a 'similar' equal and equitable return from ALLAH via the hands of the 'unkind & merciless' of cruel punishment and are not able to live in peace.
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Man sees not the 'capacity' of Allah to fulfil HIS own Law. For as 'sinful' man sees not the 'face' of Allah (The Creator) he does not 'believe' in HIS existence. Nor has man been taught that Allah is both the Light and the Dark essence. For there is nothing 'outside' of Allah - Allah is all and everything. Allah is omnipresent, Allah is omnipotent, Allah is omniscient.
Thus Allah says: "Any that use MY dark energy and cause any suffering to any of MY children become MY enemy and it is I to impose a similar suffering upon them."
Foolish man, you cannot destroy the dark energy, for by the very action of killing a person that is using darkness due to their ignorance means, that in your 'act' of 'recompense' you also use darkness and your suffering continues on and on.
You cannot wash away blood with blood, only with the water of forgiveness.
It is I to reveal the great danger facing humanity. It is the telepathic subjugation of 'each' mind by demonic THOUGHTS that will 'incite' them to be their 'strong' retributive force to 'expose' and then destroy the 'others' that used darkness that caused others to suffer.
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Ali says: So why should we believe in you and not in other impostors when neither of you have the proof for your claims? What sets you apart from other false prophets? Don’t you think it is kind of silly for God to send a messenger without any proof and demand obedience?
Terence replies: I see Ali that you also 'preach' to the world that I am an 'impostor' do you not? - I Terence do not demand obedience, I am a simple messenger that speaks to man for Allah. It is Allah that Commands obedience. It is Allah that Commands all to "Only love one another" and why? - - -
Because Allah is THE LAW and, - - - Allah reveals HIS one LAW "As you do is done unto you" and, - - - I say that HE says that all that fight will die spiritually and be 'cast' by Allah into the Abyss thus, - - - it is your 'freedom of choice' to believe or not to believe. It is your choice to grieve or be happy. Simple is it not?
I also 'simply' give the understanding of 'how' and why the demons will access your mind and, - - - how you can fortify your mind against them and stay kind and respectful unto ALL, even your perceived enemies. They are only 'enemies' because they are as ignorant as you.
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Ali says: Thank you for responding. faithfreedom.org does not preach anything.
Terence replies: But he is preaching these following 'fateful' words in his 'epistle' to me; - - "Allah, whom you claim to represent, is not the real God." -
Before I respond fully I need to 'educate' Ali and many others as to the use of the word Allah or God. For in fact, these words are 'simply' a 'shortened' description of "The Divine Creator" and, - - - the one version 'Allah' is as spoken in the Arabic language, and the other version 'God' is as spoken in the English language.
It follows, that Ali's "Allah is not the real God" is erroneous as it is in fact saying when spoken in English : "God is not God," or if an Arab speaking Arabic said : "God is not the real Allah," he would be saying "Allah is not Allah."
It is all these 'minor' understandings that give the Dark a 'means' to cause disruption. Let us now reflect that when we say 'Allah' or 'God,' that we mean the same thing - - - The Creator of all.
It follows, that as the 'Creator of all' - Allah or God in whichever language you speak, is the Creator of ALL, that HE is both the Light and the Dark that is self-empowered to dispose HIS 'Justice' upon your actions, be it merciful or merciless.
"So Ali, the 'fatal' and worst thing that you do preach and teach being that: 'Allah, whom you claim to represent, is not the real God.' Is a LIE.
For it is 'Shetani' the Dark 'Devil' (Dark Sovereign Power) speaking through you in an 'attempt' to turn people away from PEACE - Islam.
I Allah have spoken."
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Ali, it is you that is 'lost' my friend, for you 'confuse' the word 'Islam' as being the 'flock' of people. The word 'Islam' is the 'principle' of PEACE upon which men of all religions 'founded' their religions. Do not 'denigrate' others, simply promote Peace Ali.
The obvious and 'sorry' FACT that all the texts in supposed 'holy books' have become 'confused' and distorted and the sorry FACT that most men have all become 'warmongers' due to their fear and their false 'leaders,' does not mean that the underlying 'factor' being the TRUE ideology of PEACE is wrong or false.
The error of following the false ideology is what needs be understood. For there are two opposing ideologies from the same 'Creator of ALL' being -
The ideology of the Light energy of Allah is:
Go your way in peace and love one another.
Be merciful, compassionate, kind and forgiving and educate the offenders.
The ideology of the Dark energy of Allah is:
Disturb the peace and destroy your enemy.
Be merciless, cruel, unkind, unforgiving, punish or destroy the offenders.
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Ali says: Which side your god is standing dear Terence? Is he on the side of the terrorists? How can we not fight Evil? You talk about peace. Shouldn't we condemn evil and those who do evil? But making peace with Evil is evil. How can you be a friend of evil and good at the same time? Shouldn't we condemn evil and those who do evil? - - - you condemn people who do not believe in you and pay taxes?
Terence replies: Allah is Allah Ali, Allah simply IS - the I AM that exists. HE - SHE is all. The Light energy essence (positive emotions) and infinite 'consciousness' of the Light side Allah 'backs' all deeds of good with inspiration of good through the minds of the good.
The Dark energy essence (negative emotions) of Allah and infinite 'consciousness' of the Dark side of Allah 'backs' all deeds of evil with inspiration of evil through the minds of the bad.
So you cannot 'fight' against Allah and win. You can only fight his 'tools' being other foolish men and as this you do, you draw in more black, dark, evil 'sin' energy that grows within you as a 'cancer' and - - - you 'earn' a painful karmic due to be 'met' when Allah decides to 'balance' HIS Scales of Justice.
It is not a 'matter' of making 'peace' with evil, it is simply a matter of 'suffering' your dues at the hands of those 'possessed' by evil, and as you 'peacefully' go your way you become free of your 'dues' to Allah, that your 'oppressors' have taken upon themselves, to be suffered by them at the hands of others equally ignorant.
The 'wise' neither condone nor condemn evil, they simply ensure that they never use any darkness in their interaction of others. Thus they eventually become free. They also 'catch' offenders and educate them rather than punishing and incarcerating them. I do not condemn people that do not 'believe in me,' I simply tell them their error and that they should heed Allah's "Only love" Command. They 'condemn' their own soul when they defy Allah and use force to fight or lie or steal or abuse or deceive or criticise or destroy.
A 'dangerous' criminal is simply a person 'filled' with darkness that is a danger unto themselves, for any person they 'attack' is simply receiving a JUST due, and the 'fool' assumed 'dangerous' has by their dark deed accrued a debt, and ahead it is them to bleed.
When you 'forgive' someone, it is not that you 'condone' their evil ways, it is but that you personally conform to the peaceful 'dictates' of Allah as you stay sane, respectful, and rational, and you extend Allah's love as you give them good counsel and show them the TRUE PATH - - - PEACE UNTO ALL. Thus you conform to Allah and attain your spiritual freedom.
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So as you see Ali, as you 'sleep' you can also accrue a 'pain' due if your 'taxes' are being used to fund iniquity. Naturally 'some' are used for the welfare of the community. It is 'best' to ONLY support community welfare directly, this way you ensure that you are not funding 'war' and 'earning' a dark painful spiritual due.
What you need to see Ali is that the 'RULES' of every Government are ALL dictatorial and 'Autocratic.' There is NO 'democracy' on earth for the 'rules' RULE and, they the rules are 'unconscionable' and merciless and extortionist and punitive. So any person upholding rules are defiant of Allah's "Only love and be peaceful" command.
We do not need the 'rule' by men, be they men of 'religion' or state politicians. For all regulate, control, interfere, condemn, and punish. All must now 'burn the books' and have the CREATOR as the 'head of house' and abide in HIS "Only love" command.
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Ali says: The real maker of this universe (if there is any) will not persecute people. He will not torture them or burn them in hellfire.
Terence replies: Allah says:
"Ali, MY Word is true, - - - any person continuing to use 'force' and control or abuse any other is 'seen' by ME their Creator as a 'bad' seed, that by ME is now to be 'cast' into the 'Pit' to join the other 'swine' that live demonically in the underworld and, - - - they will fight each other there for eternity and suffer great pain with no surcease and then, - - - they will be burnt in MY fire for another eternity for being such 'callous' infidels and swine."
Ali my 'proof' being my 'words' that "Peace not the sword is the only way" should be 'visible' to you, for the whole world now uses the sword and is 'falling' into disarray.
Ali, why don't you ask yourself the question: "If 'Allah - God - The Creator' is ONLY Love then, from where does all the 'un-loving' stuff come from" and, - - - why does it come to cause us suffering"?
Ali, if the Creator (Allah - God) is truly the 'God of all,' the 'Allah of all,' the 'Creator of all,' then it 'follows' that, all the emotions good or bad are a 'part' of the Creator's 'essence' and, it also follows that as mankind is using this dark essence that is the 'evil fruit' from the 'forbidden tree,' and man is thus being 'controlling, interfering, abusive, destructive, merciless, and unforgiving,' - - - then the 'imposition' of suffering upon all is being 'superimposed' upon all by that invisible force (Creator God - Allah) as the fulfilment of HIS Divine Law.
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Ali says: You said that Christ was a messenger of God. Didn’t he say pay to Caesar what belongs to Caesar?
Terence replies: Ali, all references to the 'words of Caesar are documented in my "Testament of Truth' site. What I will add here briefly is that the 'script' texts in the 'bibles' of the day have all been corrupted and Allah via my mind says:
"The man 'Caesar' was a stupid arrogant infidel who told the 'scribes' that they must place the words 'Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's' into their 'holy book' so that he Caesar could enslave and steal from everyone and, - - - it was the same scribes that said that it was 'said' by Jesus because, - - - they were told by Caesar that it was them to be 'fed' to the Lions if they failed Caesar's command. Caesar and all that use Caesar's control over MY children do go 'below' to suffer their fate."
So Ali, errant, deceived man has used those 'words' even in the 'Courts' of today as justification to 'extort' ever increasing taxes, licence fees, rates, duties, goods and service tax etc., and, to punish any that default. Allah says: "First 'earn' a wage and then you are to help the needy and your community by giving 'some' of your 'bread' away. - You only 'owe 'Caesar' or any man 'something if you have borrowed something from them, or purchased something from them and not paid for it. - Do not pay money to 'thieves' or 'extortionists' or 'warmongers' simply because they have deceived you through the 'sins' of your forefathers."
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The Devil has 'tempted' you Ali, and you have failed to 'defend' your mind and soul from his subtle deceptive 'advances,' for you now do 'speak' for the Dark one, for it is HE that is using you to turn man against man and religion against religion. You have also been 'deceived' by the Devil into 'sowing' discord within the minds of the 'followers' of the Islamic 'religion' and, - - - by this very unwise 'act' you are also giving 'ammunition' to those followers of 'opposing' religions.
Ali, rather than continuing to 'slander' a man 'Muhammad' who lived long, long ago, and whose 'ways' may not have been 'correctly' recorded by 'historians,' it is a better 'prospect' for you to 'simply' now tell all 'men' that: "Any person that abuses any other for any reason deserves to suffer the same 'fate,' - - - but the man named Terence who lives today says:
"The 'administration of Vengeance is the sole 'prerogative' of Allah the Creator and, any person taking the LAW of the Creator into their own 'hands' also deserve to suffer a similar fate in this life or in the hereafter."
Ali, I would not have it that you 'friend' are late to enter the Paradise of 'Heaven's Gate,' so please halt your personal attack against Islam or any 'man,' for it is in fact an 'attack' upon the Peaceful Ideology of the Creator, and you and I and all ultimately 'answer' to HIM and HIS forces as HE is THE LORD of ALL.
I say 'Amuka rafiki' (Wake up friend) for every 'soul' that you fill with 'doubt' or 'inspire' to fight will be a 'debt' upon your own self brother. "For the Just the 'eye for an eye' LAW * of the Creator 'Allah - God' is immutable and invincible. So all pain and suffering that was inspired by YOU becomes YOUR 'eternal' DUE."
That 'statement' above is the WORD of the Creator through ME, now I do not say anything other than: "You are the one who must 'choose' to believe or disbelieve."
For only Allah is 'above' the punitive aspect His 'own' Law, and as I 'speak' for Allah, it is only I that have immunity from the punitive aspect of His Law when I 'criticise, judge, or condemn,' for at that 'moment' I am wielding His pen that is His 'voice' on earth. So all 'others' such as you that also criticise, judge, and condemn the actions of others are incurring the 'WRATH' of Allah for your defiance of HIS "Only Love" Command and, - - - my pen does also say, - - -
"Be careful 'son,' - - - your 'cross' is already too heavy for you to 'bear."
Ali, any person that defies Allah places their own soul in 'deadly' jeopardy, for they place it within the Dark punitive side of Allah's Law and, as you have incurred the 'wrath' of Allah for your 'attack' upon HIS 'peaceful' ideology, then He will 'raise' up HIS Sword against you via the mind and hand of another angry & insane infidel.
Ali, I do not wish to raise up any 'new' religion,' nor do I wish for any man to follow me or Muhammad, I simply tell all that they are wise of they follow the fresh uncontaminated Command of their Creator (Allah - God) as given by me HIS messenger to be "Peaceful" that is contained within these pages and the Dar es salaam (haven of peace) web site.
I see you Ali as a man with a 'brilliant' mind that is 'kindly' trying to show mankind that there exists 'error' and terror. so I thank you for the opportunity of being able to use this 'communication' positively so that I can more easily uplift the consciousness of all mankind.
May the LIGHT of Allah guide us all
May the LIGHT of God guide us all
May the LIGHT of the Creator guide us all
May the destructive DARK be now exposed so we all become 'wiser' not 'killers.'
Ali, if you try and destroy 'dark evil' you are attempting to kill Allah - God - Creator. Those that are 'terrorists,' being any person inflicting abuse, pain, or destroying homes. lives' or livelihoods of others, - - - are 'simply' people that have lost their way and infused their souls with dark energy. Let us now educate them and thus 'save' their souls and keep 'ours' peaceful and thus 'safe.'
Ali says: "Terence, As my site keep growing and as people learn the truth about Muhammad, Islam will wane and with that your message will also go down to oblivion."
Terence replies: Ali, that my brother is your 'prophecy' and it also your statement to the world. But what you have 'failed' to see is that, - - -
The DOCTRINE OF ALLAH: 'Islam - Aslama' implying that one will attain inner peace and external peace through obedience to the peaceful & compassionate & merciful & forgiving doctrine of Allah/God, through the right 'submission' to, and by 'embracing,' the Command of Allah - - - is not 'dependant upon the reported 'deeds' of a mere man named 'Muhammad.'
Allah can 'speak' or 'inspire' any person that HE Allah so chooses. So if you 'think' that the above stated 'doctrine' of Islam being the TRUE 'core' of the religion named 'Islam' will 'wane,' and my message will be 'lost' in oblivion, then that is your 'sad' belief that I see is now to bring 'grief' upon you and your own household.
Ali, there are 'facts' relating to spiritual matters and the 'ways' of men that you are ignorant of, and I see that your mind is 'spell-bound' by the Devil with a 'fixation' on the 'errors' of Muhammad. Why not take the 'beam' out of your own eye Ali, are you so 'pure'?
I 'fear' for your spiritual welfare Ali, and I know that the 'spell' binding you can only be broken by Allah or me, and to enlighten yourself so as to save yourself an 'awful' lot of misery, I would suggest that you avail yourself of all the wisdom of Allah as written in my web sites. I wish you well Ali, I do not 'ask' you to 'abolish' your web site but, - - - please place this following 'notice' on your web site on the first main index page :
"I Ali Sina do state that there is a man of flesh who believes that he has a message to humanity from the Creator.
Please visit his web sites and come to your own personally informed decision as to the 'validity' of its 'truth or falsity,' for I would not wish to personally advise you wrongly. Go to:
< http://www.dar-es-salaam.org > or
< http://www.the-testament-of-truth.com >
May peace and goodwill be your personal way from today"
Note : 'eye for an eye' LAW * - The Creator (Allah - God) commands man to only fulfil the positive side of the law - this means that 'we' the children must only give the 'payback' of good for good, and joy for joy etc.
It is not for man to fulfil the negative side of the law. For if we so do and mete out the 'payback' of pain for pain, abuse for abuse, then we live eternally in that 'karmic' wheel of suffering.
Make sure that you never use darkness in your personal interaction. make sure that you never 'fund' punitive systems of man, for if you fund the State enforcement agencies then all the 'terror' and abuse they impose 'for and on your behalf' upon others of other nations or upon other citizens of your own land, then you also do incur a 'pain' debt. For they are your 'paid' servants.
Read my < http://www.dar-es-salaam.org/web/violence.htm >
I Terence the 'risen' Al-Imam al-Mahdi have spoken.
There are a copies of this 'Paper' on line at:
< http://www.dar-es-salaam.org/web/ali.htm >
< http://www.the-testament-of-truth.co.uk/web/ali.htm > _________________ Don't be a follower, but a prophet unto your own.
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armour_piercing_bullets
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oh my UNCOUNTABLE millions of billions of trillions of gazillions of
infinite goddesses and gods !!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA
i laughed and laughed till my stomatch ached and tears of joy
rolled down my eyes !!!
dear aliji,pls keep up the GOOD WORK of exposing the
terrorist like muhaeed,his followers and cultists.
u r the true prophet of truth,my salutations to u
and i humbly bow to yr divine wisdom,without which
we wud hv been in jahiliya...ignorance.
u hv brought us kafirs to truth light so u r the
true prophet.
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Student1
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I couldn't believe my eyes as I read how Ali Sina debated with this guy with the flashy self-proclaimed title he gave himself.
Why would Sina waste his time debating with a certified fruitcake? _________________ Islam stands for injustice! |
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shiloh

Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 98 Location: On the Rock
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:25 pm Post subject: jury |
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Student1 wrote: I couldn't believe my eyes as I read how Ali Sina debated with this guy with the flashy self-proclaimed title he gave himself.
Why would Sina waste his time debating with a certified fruitcake? |
At first I responded the same way, even though I know that Ali was just trying to show that Muslims follow a fruit cake, so they might as well follow this latest one.
I will give Ali the benefit of the doubt, that he did not read this guys web site fully and I will move on from this rediculous discourse with a self proclaimed pedophile supporter.
Lets get back to the worthy debates with those who may still be snatched from the clutches of muhammed and his satan.
Come on Ali there are humans to free from the bondage of islam; leave the demented to wallow in their own vomit.
"Help the wounded! No matter how much it hurts lets leave the dead!" _________________ American Against Islamic Infiltration and Dhimmitude |
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shiloh

Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 98 Location: On the Rock
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Ali, since you started debating this ignorant madman "Terrance", it seems that you cannot just abondon the debate until you yourself have entered into the labrynth of his tormented mind.
I ask you, how can you give pearls to a swine? The swine is happy wallowing in his slop; you will get swine slop all over yourself in the process and the valuable pearls will be lost from sight.
Even if you hose down the swine pit with pure clean water the swine will not come out of the pit clean and will only trample the pearls more furiously and drive them deeper into his mud pit.
This is what Jesus meant when he said "do not cast your pearls before swine" _________________ American Against Islamic Infiltration and Dhimmitude
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lol shiloh, I think Ali's just having some fun, but he is also giving a good example of what Muhammad could have been like during the inception of Islam ; Writing alot of nonsensical trash copied from every other religion but with his own slant, and trying to make up for the quality it lacks by rhyming. I think Ali beat him at his own game though  |
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Ali Sina
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Terence wrote again:
Thank you Ali, please now look very deeply into your consciousness, for I believe that you are a 'decent' man, but one that has set a 'train' in motion, and it will be very difficult now for you to make 'amends,' as this would be showing your 'peers' and the world that you were in fact wrong in your attack upon the man Muhammad, for it was that 'projection' that ultimately drove you to 'rubbish' the Holy Word of Allah being the 'core' doctrine of the truth of salvation, being 'Peace unto all' that is the 'core' of the 'religion' of ISLAM.
I know that 'mad' Mullah's and their 'scribes' also 'trashed' the contents of 'book' texts by adding in their own abominable 'controlling' 'rites,' rituals and rules as they sought control and money 'honey' through greed, pride, and vanity. But they too 'as' you all pay the ultimate price * for being 'less' than nice to Allah's sacred Creation - - - mankind, being HIS beloved children of every race and creed.
By placing my letters on your site that will now assist you and all readers out of your dark plight, it does show Allah your courage and your intent to make amends. Seek now the bright morning Star and let it guide you and all mankind from afar, for truly, every mortal man has sinned * against his God/Allah/Creator, and that too includes Muhammad, Jesus, and me.
Note: ultimate price * - The reciprocal return unto man for every deed be it good or bad receives a JUST and equitable return as Allah fulfils HIS singular divine Law on an 'eye for an eye' basis. ( Deception for deception given, abuse for abuse given, pain for pain given, disruption for disruption given, despair for despair given, love for love given, compassion for compassion given, mercy for mercy given, etc.)
Note: sinned * - Used force of arms or angry words to abuse another or have relied on the strength of 'State' forces (Caesar's men) to supply protection, or stole, or deceived, etc. For any 'voter' that condoned the punitive & warring governing systems has become 'complicit' to the defiance of Allah's Command to "Walk in peace and only love' and, - - - as all 'youths' grow up believing their elders, all even me are taught falsely, and we only become wiser and make change when as I, Allah inspires us with the REAL TRUTH. Make use of my wisdom sent by Allah, and change your ways before you 'die.' _________________ Don't be a follower, but a prophet unto your own.
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armour_piercing_bullets
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 203
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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what is dark energy and all this stuff ??
is this mehdi guy a muslim or trying to borrow the karma theory from
kafir pagan hindus ???
anyway this site clearl;y expose the illusions this guy has.
good work aliji,pls keep it up. |
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everybee

Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 2417 Location: Tentatively Banned for one month, while the moderators consider.
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FreeThinker
Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 130
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:29 am Post subject: |
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This man seems like a recornation of Mohammad. May be Mohammad born again to fight with Ali HEHEHEHE.
This man is a mad man talking totally nonsense. If God has dark energy, He is not a God, but an evil. According to Terence, we should not punish Saddam Hussain, Osama Bin Ladin and Mullah Omer but treat them with icecream cake and coffee!!
The terrorists who slit throat of innocent female social workers, and the foriegn aid workers working to built Iraq should be given choclate milk and butter with roasted chicken!! This man is totally out of his mind and the most imazing thing is that ...he is a self claim prophet and I bet that a respectfull amount of ignorant mass follow him.
It means we should shut down all the courts, jurisdiction laws, and police and open an ice cream factory to serve ice cream to the most horrible criminal of humanity, rapists, murderers and child molesters. Oh nice to remember, this guy validate the actions of a child molester and call him prophet as well. WOW......it is really fun to read his funny replies to Ali.
I am too much impress of the wisdom of this guy (Terrence).LOL
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Ali Sina
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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The Messiah cursed me.
Ali, it was with Allah's sincerity that ALLAH wrote to you is an 'attempt' to enlighten you and bring you back into HIS fold. You however 'prefer' to MOCK me and ALLAH as you say to the world on your web site:
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All this man's verses are crime.
But who cares as long as they rhyme.
After reading what he said.
I got a pain in my head.
This guy is dumb and real thick,
I am about to vomit and get sick.
I wish him Allah’s curses.
Hey look! I am composing verses.
Could it be that I am the promised one?
I bet being a prophet is fun
Call me his holiness from now on - Ali Sina |
So as I did to you say was, that Allah's LAW is "As you do is done unto you" - thus upon your own 'head' son will Allah's curses now descend, and ONLY when you are in HELL for a time and a time will you become aware that I was and yet AM your ONLY friend.
Imam al-Mahdi _________________ Don't be a follower, but a prophet unto your own.
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Ali Sina
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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You who cursed me and wished me to go to hell,
Have the temerity to call yourself a friend?
The rules of logic and reason you easily bend,
And all you have for us is doom and evil portent.
You gave no proof of your prophethood and what you pretend,
And you expect us to believe you, this I can’t comprehend.
If you want people believe that you are a God’s descend
Talk rationally and don’t treat others with condescend.
If Messiahship and divinity is what you contend
Be prepared to answer questions and thy position defend. _________________ Don't be a follower, but a prophet unto your own.
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