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rasha7982
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oh my god!! i never heard this before!! YES i do deny it.....Mohammad never touched her when she was sitll a child....he use to say i use to love her and play with her and never touched her till she was a women.....Aishya loved the prohet so much and she did not kill anyone in his family.....i do not know where you got this information from...and you shouldnt talk about a prophet like this.......none of the people he ever married complianted anything about him...they all loved him so much and loved his family.....
AGAIN Aysha killed no one in his family!aishya loved mohammad an endless love |
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el greco
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hello....am sorry i got back to you late, had lots of
this is the explaintation i researched and again god knows it all...just think if it simply the god we worship is the same god christans and jews worship...he will not send words to hurt his people as he loves us so much...and the prophet only does what god asks him...he has wisdom of everything....you cant really if you think about it follow christanity and have it make sense to you and love it and then hate islam which is form the same god....i respect and love all religions of god...islam, christanity and judism...and i respect them all... |
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You aren't a true muslim, or, you haven't read the whole koran, or you are a child.
Christianity is not from the same God as Islam.
No possible way.
And that business of 7 different Bibles....you have no idea of how the Bible came to be and what documents were used to put in the Bible.
Nothing at all is hidden from christians, or anyone else.
Matter of fact, the dead sea scrolls do a fine job of supporting 99% of some of the books of the Bible.
Go study some archaeology.
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crazy canuck
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| alright....well i am a muslim of a palestinian origin....i do not fear anythin but god...i dont fear a man controlling me.....for those women who has men abusing them...then i feel sad for them for making the wrong choice....domestic violence is in every culture...in the states too...prophet mohammad may god have his mercy on him never abused or hit any of his wives |
Dear Rasha,
You are of Palestaninan origin but looks you dont know the ground reality and status of Palestanian women living in Israel,Lebenon or Jordan, Ghaza. They are not exactly the picture of liberated Muslimmahs. In palestine and in Jordon honor killing is rampany, a young girl talking to unknown male can be severly punished or killed. Jordon is worst. Now if they were all liberated like you , respected then we wont have any honor killings. Tell me if Palestanina christians practice this custom of dishonarable conduct.Dont tell me that in US also husbands kill their wives, they are punished and in many states they can be hanged.
Either you are upper crust professional woman of Palestanian origin, or belong to the society where you husband and his immediate circle are isolated from rank and file Muslims, highly westernized in dress, appearance and education.All I know you can be Hanna Asravi!! I like leaders like her no burkha, good english and sound reasonable but light years away from true Muslimmahs tending goats. 
My country of origin , India is full of highly educated, westernised, muslimmahs defending rights of women in general but t a same time talk and talk how liberating is Islam.They all work out side their house.Their husbands also have good jobs. They dont wear burkha, many dont pray regularly, many dont go to mosque where allowed, many skip rozas, few drink, very few insisting on halal foods.But still they will defend Koran and character of Mohemmed till they are read in face. But when comes to challanging uncouth , unkept, bearded Mullahs they all piss iin their pants!! Slogan: Dont interfere in internal matters of Muslims. 
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rasha7982
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yep it is the same god....and i dont know why you are judging me now and not caling me a true muslim.....there is one god in this whole universe....the first religion he sent was judism, then christanity then islam...it says in the bible another prophet will come and his name is ahmed......when is a derviation from mohammad.....
and the bible is changed from the true meaning.....go search more.....thats why there are many different conversions of christanity.... anyhow...u can believe whatever you want....i guess we'll find out whos right when we all die.....but difference is that i respect all religions and u dont... |
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rasha7982
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well i lived there and you didnt...and i know what i am talking about....there are poor societies where they are closed minded because of the culter...am not arguing about that....i am disucssing the islamic religion....alot of people dont follow it well.....and u look at them only....ur not putting into part those who do practice it right....
many areas are very consurvative as part of the culture....same is in some regions of africa....and some in pakistand and india.....it doesnt have to do with the religion it has to do with how people are holding into their culture.... |
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doubtless
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oh my god!! i never heard this before!! YES i do deny it.....Mohammad never touched her when she was sitll a child....he use to say i use to love her and play with her and never touched her till she was a women.....Aishya loved the prohet so much and she did not kill anyone in his family.....i do not know where you got this information from...and you shouldnt talk about a prophet like this.......none of the people he ever married complianted anything about him...they all loved him so much and loved his family.....
AGAIN Aysha killed no one in his family!aishya loved mohammad an endless love |
Muhammed married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old.
You do know what Sahih Hadaith of Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim are? Read them and then go ask your imam who has taught you about islam if they are true or not? Do you know anyone who is a six year old and a nine year old? Are they children or ready to have sex with a 54 year old man?
Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Sahih Bukhari 5.236.
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.
Sahih Bukhari 5.234
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915, also Number 4916 and Number 4917
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 90
Narrated Aisha:
When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3311
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.
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el greco
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Poor girl. Its really a pity. 
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newbeginnings
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i have just jioned this forum. it is really an eye-opener. I can relate to this woman so much as I converted as well. I am alone now, like her, with a child. when i saw my three year old daughter with a hijab on, you know, i even thought it was cute! god!!!
anway, thanks for your story. hope the road to recovery is easy.. |
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sofia
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| I was brought up in an Islamic country ( though it was an Eastern Christian Orthodox country,centuries ago.). Our fore fathers jealously clung to their Christian faith,in spite of so many threats, humiliations, and even kidnappings of young girl from our family ,who went out for studies. My mother used to tell me the plight of Christian women, married to these Muslim men, They were not allowed to visit their relatives(because we are Christians). They are just used as a child producing machines. -I can go on and on..My sincere request to my Western Christian sisters- NEVER A MUSLIM_ EVEN IF HE SAYS< YOU CAN PRACTICE YOUR OWN FAITH. Because, after some time, all the promises vanish in thin air,and a Muslim's promise is not to keep. He just needs your blue eyed ,blond haired children through him-, probably about ten or twelve. |
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Canadian_Couple
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: Right Behind You Jihadi, BOO!!
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:51 am Post subject: Re: can relate |
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i have just jioned this forum. it is really an eye-opener. I can relate to this woman so much as I converted as well. I am alone now, like her, with a child. when i saw my three year old daughter with a hijab on, you know, i even thought it was cute! god!!!
anway, thanks for your story. hope the road to recovery is easy.. |
I am so happy for you to have the child with you. We know of 2 locally who's children were just taken to the ME ... never to return.
One went to the ME to get child back & is still there, a captive child making machine now
Am so glad for you |
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sofia
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Canadian Couple says:"I am so happy for you to have the child with you. We know of 2 locally who's children were just taken to the ME ... never to return.
One went to the ME to get child back & is still there, a captive child making machine now
Am so glad for you
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Many Western converts to Islam face the problem of loosing their children in the case of separation. Our Western governments should pass laws to see to that all Marriages between a Western convert to Islam to a Muslim man should sign an undertaking that it is the Western Judiciary settlement, that will be final ,and enforcible in case of separation and settlement. The husband should agree and sign this statement. In my former country, I used to see a number of white children, growing up with the fathers. They cut a pathetic site. For these fathers, having children like that ,is like 'war medalians' for the soldier!. |
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MsWesterner
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Sofia....given that you know so much of the internal goings on due to your upbringing, are you in a position that you can "actively" inform women of the facts and deceit!!!
I do hope so. This sick sorry state of affairs needs people like you with the credibility to inform. |
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Canadian_Couple
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Location: Right Behind You Jihadi, BOO!!
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Sofia....given that you know so much of the internal goings on due to your upbringing, are you in a position that you can "actively" inform women of the facts and deceit!!!
I do hope so. This sick sorry state of affairs needs people like you with the credibility to inform. |
Yes Ms, it sure does need people, if she can, which i cannot speak for.
I can & will speak for this, from meeting & seeing her in another, more local venue, sofia is knowledgable, consistant, very bright & a powerhouse mohammud slayer. |
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sofia
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yep it is the same god....and i dont know why you are judging me now and not caling me a true muslim.....there is one god in this whole universe....the first religion he sent was judism, then christanity then islam...it says in the bible another prophet will come and his name is ahmed......when is a derviation from mohammad.....
and the bible is changed from the true meaning.....go search more.....thats why there are many different conversions of christanity.... anyhow...u can believe whatever you want....i guess we'll find out whos right when we all die.....but difference is that i respect all religions and u dont...
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How dare you say the Bible is changed? You got any proof? Just because your Mohamed wanted to market his Koran, he has to put down the other strong faiths of his time- Judaism and Christianity. I can also say Koran is changed,or only Mohamed conceived and wrote the Koran. If you say that Bible is changed,then why you mention that "Bible says another prophet will come and his name will be Ahmed"- which is NOT AT ALL TRUE. THERE ARE NO such WORDS LIKE THAT IN THE BIBLE. Liers!. |
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