Mary in the Trinity? Wtf?

[osmanthus]

Hey I just found this sura where JC is asked if he ever said he and Mary were gods. Everyone who knows the slightest thing about Christianity knows that Mary has never been part of the Trinity.
Now I know that Islam must have come up with some excuse for this obvious error. What is it?

[osmanthus]

Sorry, I should have quoted the relevant sura.

[osmanthus]

Bumpity bump. Come on guys. Someone here must know about this.
I wanting to hit someone with this sura as a way of proving the Qur'an cannot be inerrant but I'm sure there's a standard Islamic defence against this charge. There has to be. It's too obvious a flaw not to have been mentioned before.
I'd like to be forewarned before I issue the challenge.
Help me out here.

[Sanitarium]

[osmanthus]

Thanks Sani. Hey I was just chatting with a relative of mine who went to a theological college and has always been interested in the history of Christianity.
I asked if there had ever been a Christian sect, heretical or otherwise, in the Middle East, around the 7th century, that believed Mary (the virginal one) was a part of the Trinity.
The answer: no.
Now obviously this is only to the best of this person's knowledge, but the knowledge is usually pretty damned good.
What he did say was that the Gnostics regarded Mary Magdalene as the highest of Jesus' disciples. It is possible this is the source of the confusion. I'll do some more research. If anyone knows of additional information please post it.

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[Sona]

Well the Qu'ran was sent to clear up mand made mistakes in the bible. In the bible the men changed at first it was mary part of the trinity, but then they realized she was a woman so they removed it. So the Qu'ran shows what the Christians edited out and changed the concept of trinity to make it more logical, the Qu'ran exposes this.
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Stupid ho's on here. Am done fool!

[osmanthus]

Catholicism isn't necessarily relevant here. The Orthodox Church and the Coptic Church (which are more applicable to the Middle East) were in on the Council of Nicaea, where the doctrine of the Trinity was hammered out.
Any Christians living in Arabia in the seventh century were most likely Coptic (like Egypt before the Islamic invasion) or from a minor heretical sect.
Speaking of which, I've been looking around and it turns out there were some sects which regarded Mrs Bonkless as divine. The Miriamites were one and the Collyridians were another. These are the only two I've found.
The former were present at the Council of Nicaea and the latter were recorded as living in Arabia at the same time.
Mind you this was several centuries before Mohammed. At the moment I haven't found records of either sect in seventh century Arabia, but of course this doesn't rule them out either.
In any case they certainly never spoke for the vast majority of Christians and the Qur'an appears to only have one conception of the Trinity, namely the one including Mary. The word "Trinity" is mentioned in two other suras but without stating who it included.

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[cheeto33]

Sona is projecting - he takes a while to cop on to the fact that someone is a woman, so he assumes this is a mistake other men are likely to make. He's been interacting with me on this forum for months and only on Sunday realised that I am a woman, ( and only then when I told him so).
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