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yeezevee
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friends, we had that movie link " submission" in the forum, Some how i couldn't trace again., i saw that movie from FFI link., I wonder some you guys could point out to me the Post, in which the movie link is given ..
with best regrads
yeezevee |
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Ajax
Joined: 12 Jul 2004
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Location: Elysian Fields
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| yeezevee wrote: |
friends, we had that movie link " submission" in the forum, Some how i couldn't trace again., i saw that movie from FFI link., I wonder some you guys could point out to me the Post, in which the movie link is given ..
with best regrads
yeezevee |
It went to the 2nd page. Here is the link to the post and the link to the website |
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piggy
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yeezevee
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:49 am Post subject: |
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thanks piggy., May be we should put in ot the resource center..
with best
yeezevee |
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Dan-Cannon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Dear Yeezevee,
It already is in the resource center.
Just look for the thread with "Submission".
Regards,
Dan.
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King
Joined: 10 Nov 2004
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| It's very sad. I also think that Europe is no longer a safe place for people who leave Islam. I can't talk freely about the danger of Islam. |
Thank God for all of you Murtads. We need you. Thank you for your great gift to humanity and for warning us all of the dangers of Islam. Please don't ever give up, protect yourselves, but don't ever give up, we need you all.
I'm sure that there are many more apostates than we know about, but they fear for their lives, so they remain silent.
You Murtads give us (the world) hope for a better day. |
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Not Afraid To Think
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yeezevee
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Courageous Theo van Gogh stood firmly and exposed Islam with the help of Hirsi Ali, a Somali-born Dutch MP who rightly denounced her parents and the religion of Sand Land to become the member of parliament of that wonderful country.. Now we have Islamic Bastards born in the countries where they have to pray for Allaha, Pray Mohammad and beg for the food, beg for the water, move in to wonderful country and kill the courageous citizen in the broad day light., Now we have Islamic continent called Indian sub-continent.. The news of van Gogh death was hardly mentioned, hardly discussed news papers., they are more worried about that English Game Cricket..
But things seems to have changed, when the heat is turned on across the Europe and every one starts discussing Islam/Mohammad and the LOVE, PEACE in Islam, then the news papers opens up and people start writing about Theo van Gogh., Simple freedom loving free spirit of this little Planet. ., Let us read the DAWN article by Shadaba Islam and what he writes, let us probe the Peaceful, peace loving Islamic Intellectual minds..
Shadow over European Muslims By Shadaba Islam
http://www.dawn.com/2004/11/14/op.htm
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The killing last week of controversial Dutch film-maker Theo van Gogh by a suspected member of an Islamic extremist group - followed by a spate of alleged retaliatory attacks on Muslim targets across the Netherlands - is another damaging blow to relations between Europe's 15 million Muslim immigrants and host societies.
The outpouring of Islamophobic sentiments following van Gogh's murder reflects a harsh new reality in a country once known for its tolerance and openness. "The Netherlands is a nation where people ought to want to meet one another, where cultures meet each other," Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said on Dutch television after last week's tragic events. |
Well, welcome to real world. The Islam vs the rest . Choose the freedom and free expression OR Turn towards Arabian Sand say Allahooo Akbar until you go to that Islamic heaven with 72 houries..
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| But van Gogh's slaying and the Islamophobia it has triggered is not just an assault on freedom of expression. It has major implications on future relations between Muslims and host European communities... |
YES, YES Kill the guys who actually expressing freely and using freedom of Expression and talk about assault on freedom of expression., How foolish one can get...
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| The dangers of rising Islamophobia in the Netherlands and elsewhere in Europe are very real. .............Fires have been set at mosques, and a centre that aids immigrants, many of them Muslim, has been vandalized. The latest incident came earlier this week when a pre-dawn explosion in the southern Dutch town of Eindhoven wrecked the front door of an Islamic elementary school and shattered windows in nearby homes. No one was injured... |
Yeh., So in anger they burned, They only burned the GODDAM Mosque, the birth place of ISLAMIC BARBARIC BASTARDS., they didn't kill any innocent like it happened in INDIA, did they??
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Van Gogh's killer has been identified as 26-year-old Mohammed Bouyeri, a Dutch-Moroccan. Another five alleged Islamic radicals are in custody in connection with the death. All face charges of forming a terrorist conspiracy to murder van Gogh.[/quote ]
That Bastard is a REAL MOHAMMAD FOLLOWING MUSLIM.. you are NOT my friend..
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| A speech made by Verdonk after the murder of van Gogh last week was described as "Hitlerian" by one immigrant group. Meanwhile, the Deputy Prime Minister, Gerrit Zalm, said the Dutch cabinet had declared war on Islamic extremists. |
Offcourse people like you .. Sufi peace, sufi lovers do say van Gogh as "Hitlerian"., That is how Islamic Intellectuals like you play the games.. |
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Well friends rest of the nonsense, the gentleman tries compare Islam and Christainity... read it all at the URL
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The Murtad
Joined: 23 Oct 2004
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A QUESTION FOR OUR DUTCH FRIENDS
Why do we never hear about Holland's substantial Indonesian Muslim population? Why are the problems apparently coming from North African Muslims only?
Thanks for your answers. |
Hi there,
I think most of Indonesian living in Holland, they're either Christian (most of them from the Eastern part of Indonesian Archipelago which has got a strong Dutch influence) or "bad" moslem. What I mean with bad moslem here, moslem who just happen to be moslem but they don't practice their religion. They're just moslem because it's a part of their family tradition. Many moslem who left Indonesia for Holland after the Indonesians were given independence in 1949, they're normally pro Dutch government and they hate everything about Indonesia which is now more like Arab countries.
Most of them, they love the "original" Indonesian culture and values. Even though their family are moslem, but they don't really practice it. Many of them, they have left Islam like me. They hate the fact that the Arab Moslem influence has gone too far. Our traditional culture and values have been corrupted by the desert Islamic Arabian values, which is corrupt and violence. Look at the Indonesian streets now (except Bali and some Christian regions), they scream to ask Sharia to be implemented.
Like I said before, if Sharia to be implemented, Indonesia will NEVER become an Asian Tiger like Japan, China, Singapore, etc, but we're going to be a stupid DONKEY like Arab countries.
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Iznogoodh
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| Truth is not as fuzzy as you think Mr. Politically Correct. Evil is a reality that exists and there are people who are evil. |
I am not mr. Political Correct. I am simply on no one's side.
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Hume
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For all the dutch:
An interview by Robby Muntz (29/oct/04) with Theo van Gogh about (his) martership, deaththreats and his immunity from possible attacks...
http://nl.sitestat.com/klo/rvu/s?Rob_Muntz_Theo_van_gogh&ns_type=clickout
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Satyasevi
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| Bedankt Hume. Er zat iets aan te komen.......... |
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Phedippedes
Joined: 20 Mar 2004
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A QUESTION FOR OUR DUTCH FRIENDS
Why do we never hear about Holland's substantial Indonesian Muslim population? Why are the problems apparently coming from North African Muslims only?
Thanks for your answers. |
1. Because most of them aren't Muslims: the Indos (mixed European, mixed Asian) are usually Catholics or Protestants the same is true for the Papuans and the majority of the Moluccans.
2. Some of them are: mainly the ex-soldiers fighting for the KNIL (Dutch Colonial Army) most of which are from Ambon/Maluku.
Those that are muslim follow a very hindu-like version of Islam (if at all) that used to be maintream (and probably still is) version of Islam AND they did their best to become Dutch after they arived here (mostly in the late 40s and 50s) Most Indonesians think their 'adat' (tradionional culture and societal values) are more important than religion.
Heck one of the very fist girls I ever kissed as a boy was a pretty Muslima from Indonesia (her parents)... 
Islam has changed in Indonesia and this CAN be linked to the arrivel of 'Arabs' and to the fact that many young poor Indonesians had been recruited to fight in Afgahnistan etc. The trouble in Maluku only started AFTER the arrivel of trouble makers from Java/Sulawesi (Celebes) and abroad....pay for and supplied by either the military or Arabs. |
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Dan-Cannon
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This is the scumbag who killed Theo van Gogh.
Islamist pig.
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ichtys
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| Islamist pig. |
What's likely going to happen to him?
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