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shoeshiner

Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject:

Berber wrote:

Bibical prophets killed innocent women and children without any trial at least Muhamed had trial for those traitors and were judged according their own law , but yet you do believe that those biblical prophet were indeed prophet.

Could care less what others did. Anybody who tortures, kills, assassinates, molests, takes slaves, etc. is not as good as me and so he can't be a prophet.

Berber

Joined: 03 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject:

rawandi wrote:

Listen Berber,

Now I know why Ali Sina does not reply to you.
All you can do is to talk to yourself, because your nonsense can only be appreciated by your mind. I wasted time explaining to you the Arabic words ..…

Then you wrote:

( Who told you that there was peace time. The day Muhamed left Mecca was the day that war started ).

Started but never finished.

That says it all Berber. Mohammed spent all his life in war!! i.e.TERRORISM
And Mohammed followers are still at it after 1400 years!
You said it all Berber,
You proved my point!

And it’s the end of the argument

It’s my turn to laugh, Berber

how can an Arabic ignorant person teach me Arabic. You were humiliated and caught of being Jew hiden
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Berber

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject:

ygalg wrote:

Berber wrote:

was it not 'saad' who trial? and why by their law? what relevance is to Muhammad? and what hap with the claim these are corrupted laws?
why Torah and not Koran? was he not illiterate? judges one of the must traits is to be literate.

because they were Jews who believed that Torah was not corrupted
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Berber

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject:

ygalg wrote:

Berber wrote:

proudkaffiroz wrote:

Berber wrote:

Always_Faithful wrote:

Berber wrote:

no idiot if we accept his defintion which I do not even Dictionaries do not either then all historical figure were terrorist . Think before you open your filthy mouth idiot

1. I did get that definition from an online dictionary.
2. Even if terrorism means killing of innocents, you can't deny that Mohammed committed acts of terrorism. No-matter what you say about who started the war, you know perfectly well that Mohammed often killed innocents.

show me where Muhamed killed innocent people

This poor definition can include most Biblical Prophets, various national leaders and all those who fight against military occupation for liberation of their countries. As I said before, Christian missionaries enjoy behaving like Materialists when it comes to criticism of Islam. According to this definition, French resistance against Nazi occupation is viewed as terrorism, since it was unlawful and threatened use of force and violence by French resistance against Nazi government for political reasons. The point is that any definition that ignores the reason (legitimate or not) for use of force is practically deficient.

There are no Biblical prophets like Mohammed because they did not go around advocating that infidels be killed. They did not lead raiding parties against their enemy. In fact the majority warned against war, and making treaties with other nations in order to make war on their enemies. Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Zephaniah and Samuel to name just a few of the prophets did not make war on anyone. So that makes you either a liar or at least extremely ignorant when it comes to the Biblical Scriptures. Personally, I disregard anything that comes from the Koran as being a corruption of the true Scriptures.

Do I have to teach you the Bible you suppose to know your book

2 Samuel 4
10 when a man told me, 'Saul is dead,' and thought he was bringing good news, I seized him and put him to death in Ziklag. That was the reward I gave him for his news!
11 How much more-when wicked men have killed an innocent man in his own house and on his own bed-should I not now demand his blood from your hand and rid the earth of you!"
12 So David gave an order to his men, and they killed them. They cut off their hands and feet and hung the bodies by the pool in Hebron. But they took the head of Ish-Bosheth and buried it in Abner's tomb at Hebron.

Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

"They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man........Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:7,17-1

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13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword (even the unarmed ones):
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
19 When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field is man's life) to employ them in the siege:
20 Only the trees which thou knowest that they be not trees for meat, thou shalt destroy and cut them down; and thou shalt build bulwarks against the city that maketh war with thee, until it be subdued.

LOL

you want more quote. so who is the liar you or me .You are not only liar , but an idiot because Muslim can go on line get this quote in matter of minutes

are you calling G-d a liar?

in consideration it is within the bible and not outside of it. thus are not historically proven events. if these events are true historically. then your claim these are innocents quite problematic to initiate. it means you just called G-d a liar and that is blasphemy.

I called him liar because he said that there is no such thing in his bible. It does not matter whether this thing are outside of the bible or not to him the bible is the word of God so those genocide were in deed true
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ygalg

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject:

Berber wrote:

because they were Jews who believed that Torah was not corrupted

and they also believe it is of the Sanhedrin to make the judgment.

if he was a real prophet, he would not make such attempt mistake ftm to trail by the Torah which he claims corrupted. meaning he was toying with them and not 'judging'. makes him dishonest to them and to himself.

what they believe is no significant to Muhammad, he revealed the Koran which only by it he should have trial. otherwise it interprets that Muhammad have not claim it is corrupted. the question leads to, who did claim that?
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ygalg

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject:

Berber wrote:

if to take the bible true you also have to take they were no Innocent.
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Berber

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject:

ygalg wrote:

Berber wrote:

if to take the bible true you also have to take they were no Innocent.

I see if the criminals who committed those crimes are Jews therefore its legitame even though the victims are little children to you they are guilty.
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sun

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject:

Allah ignorant about the size of the sun

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Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring…

Unless Muslim can show the Kaffir where this muddy spring is, Allah is an idiot. He don't even know the size of the sun he supposely created.

ygalg

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject:

Berber wrote:

I see if the criminals who committed those crimes are Jews therefore its legitame even though the victims are little children to you they are guilty.

the irony, that in the real world, you the one who commit murder against innocent children/people. address to yourself that question.
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Berber

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject:

ygalg wrote:

Berber wrote:

I see if the criminals who committed those crimes are Jews therefore its legitame even though the victims are little children to you they are guilty.

the irony, that in the real world, you the one who commit murder against innocent children/people. address to yourself that question.

you said this

if to take the bible true you also have to take they were no Innocent.

no innocent you mean little children are guilty
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ygalg

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject:

Berber wrote:

ygalg wrote:

Berber wrote:

I see if the criminals who committed those crimes are Jews therefore its legitame even though the victims are little children to you they are guilty.

the irony, that in the real world, you the one who commit murder against innocent children/people. address to yourself that question.

you said this

if to take the bible true you also have to take they were no Innocent.

no innocent you mean little children are guilty

'children' by this term are innocent.
then someone made an err to invent the definition:
juvenile delinquent.
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Baal

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject:

Berber, I need you to state again: you claim that the word: Rahba and Irhab do not exist in Arabic? _________________ "Kad Kazab Alayna Muhammed" Islam is Not Genetically Inherited from your Parents. "Child brides in non-Western society is about love, marriage and husband and wife bonds." - AMuslim arguing for his Nabey Al-Saleh

infidel_01

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject:

Berber wrote:[/quote]The word terror in English 600 years ago did not have the meaning that we have today it only meant fear like the word gay 600 years ago did not mean homosexual.so we have to understand the word ro3b in the hadith the way it was understood back then and not the way how it is understood today

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Doesn't it mean that all the words in quran have meaning of 7th century and not today's? If yes, then your quran is nothing else but a crap by your own analogy. If no, you are a hypocrite. Choose your pick.

And don't forget, mobots like AhMAD are twisting the meaning of arabic words in quran to fit their own interpretation which is based on 21st century kafir knowledge.

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ronyvo

Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject:

Always_Faithful wrote:

I don't see your point.

Definition of Terrorism wrote:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Mohammed's actions fit the above. He was therefore a terrorist.

Of course, he was.
Satan's best invention is Mohammad in his Allah.

Those Muslims who cannot defend their faith intellectually, how can they? the Koran and hadiths will not help them, they accuse thsoe who prove the fakeness of Islam that they dont't know Arabic.

This is one of many cheap and very weak defence.

I saw forced to study the Koran and Hadiths in Arabic in my ME Islamic country.
Those who know me since 9/11/01, and read my thousands posts since then, would realise the fakeness of Islam and it is NOT a peaceful religion.....
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