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Sciencemanevolved1981
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
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 Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: So Aminah you think Christians are going to heaven also |
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| So Aminah you think Christians are wonderful and going to heaven also- are you a Muslim or a Christian. |
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Aminah
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: Assalamu Alaikum... |
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Once again, I give you a great deal of respect. I wish your son the best of luck, may Allah (subhana wa ta ala) look after him and reward him for his deeds.
Allah (subhana wa ta ala) has advised both men and women to be modest in our appearence. Mash'allah there are now clothes in the 'West' that you may find attractive and that we as muslims find attractive/fashionable aswell. For example, long skirts or shirts or embroidered headscarves for women. If you have an image in your mind of muslim women in black from head to toe, this is an image, and it is down to personal taste and preference.
Myself and many muslim sisters are often complimented on looking 'beautiful' rather than 'sexy'.
Being modest in your appearence can also earn you a great deal of respect as many people do judge you on first impressions. A man is more likely to whistle at a woman wearing next to nothing than at a modest muslimah. We are not dogs to be whistled at.
With regards to the George Orwell quote, I commented on it because you can apply this to some muslims aswell. |
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Sciencemanevolved1981
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject: So what's your answer Aminah??? |
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| So what's your answer Aminah.???? |
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Aminah
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: Assalamu Alaikum... |
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ManforYeshua,
I do not have any authority to say who goes to Jinnah and who doesn't. Only Allah (subhana wa ta ala) knows.
Insh'allah many people, will go to Jinnah. |
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Sciencemanevolved1981
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
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Location: New Mexico
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject: In your opinion |
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| In your opinion you wrote Jews in Israel need to accept Jesus as their lord and Savior??? am I wrong about your opinion. |
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Count Dracula
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Posts: 749
Location: jew of the east in Muslim Land
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Assalamu Alaikum... |
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| Aminah wrote: |
Once again, I give you a great deal of respect. I wish your son the best of luck, may Allah (subhana wa ta ala) look after him and reward him for his deeds.
Allah (subhana wa ta ala) has advised both men and women to be modest in our appearence. Mash'allah there are now clothes in the 'West' that you may find attractive and that we as muslims find attractive/fashionable aswell. For example, long skirts or shirts or embroidered headscarves for women. If you have an image in your mind of muslim women in black from head to toe, this is an image, and it is down to personal taste and preference.
Myself and many muslim sisters are often complimented on looking 'beautiful' rather than 'sexy'.
Being modest in your appearence can also earn you a great deal of respect as many people do judge you on first impressions. A man is more likely to whistle at a woman wearing next to nothing than at a modest muslimah. We are not dogs to be whistled at.
With regards to the George Orwell quote, I commented on it because you can apply this to some muslims aswell. |
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those men who whistle has no respect for woman, that all, and they are a minority.
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Aminah
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: Assalamu Alaikum... |
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ManforYeshua,
I recommend you read it again.
I was asking you the question, I am not an expert in the Jewish faith, I was hoping you could enlighten me as I have never come across a Jewish person who seeks to enlighten a muslim about Judaism so that we can come with you to heaven if it is true.
I thought that maybe you could be the first to do that. |
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wachamalit
Joined: 06 Jun 2005
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Location: Atheist corner.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: Assalamu Alaikum... |
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If you have an image in your mind of muslim women in black from head to toe, this is an image, and it is down to personal taste and preference.
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It's religion. Nobody would choose such an ugly and shameful gartment except when brainwashed by Islam.
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Myself and many muslim sisters are often complimented on looking 'beautiful' rather than 'sexy'.
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If you bothered to travel outside of your TV, your house or your Muslim-only ghetto and mingle with the Western community, you'll find that they are also complimented the same. People don't go forward with those 'sexy' comments unless they intentionally want to be romantic, or they are peverts.
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Being modest in your appearence can also earn you a great deal of respect as many people do judge you on first impressions
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Which, actually defeats the purpose of bagging yourself. People think of you as an insecure and oppressed woman who regards her skin as a shameful object that must be hid from the eyes of men, as they could get sexually excited. They refuse to acknowledge that we men can control our urges even if we are surrounded by naked and moaning women. The only respect I see is from either PC-minded westerners or Muslims themselves.
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A man is more likely to whistle at a woman wearing next to nothing than at a modest muslimah.
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Even if women are totally naked men won't whistle at them unless if they are peverts. They will be staring a while in curiosity, then avert their eyes. Your TV observation is incorrect.
Instead, I find Muslim men whistling or flirting with Muslimas in my country, regardless of whether they bag themselves or not.
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We are not dogs to be whistled at.
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But we are walking vaginas to be bagged and humiliated at.
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Sciencemanevolved1981
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: Well Aminah |
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| In Judaism we don't believe you have to be Jewish to go to heaven. It is a nice faith though and G-d just has simple laws for non-Jewish people to follow. All G-d asks is that people of all faiths respect the Jews and Israel or else they will be punished after this life. |
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doubtless
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:28 am Post subject: Re: Assalamu Alaikum... |
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| Aminah wrote: |
ManforYeshua,
I do not have any authority to say who goes to Jinnah and who doesn't. Only Allah (subhana wa ta ala) knows.
Insh'allah many people, will go to Jinnah. |
Where do they pronounce the Islamic heavenly bordello as Jinnah? Is that a tiny freudian slip dear Aminah? Or is this some arabic spellings?
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rand
Joined: 16 Feb 2004
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Let us look for a moment at the Hijab. Think about this; How many women do you know of that have been raped and who wore Hijab/Niqab/Jalbab?
Then think about the thousands of women each day that are raped, not because they deserve it, but their style of clothes inticed a man to sex. If a woman decides to become a prostitute, she doesn't choose a hijab, but chooses a short skirt and boob tube.
Therefore, Hijab is the best option for keeping sexual desire at bay.
Islam also prescribes marriage for people and non-marital relations are forbidden. Can this be bad?
Think about Aids, Herpes, Crabs, split condoms, unwanted pregnancies, single-parents, etc etc etc etc.
Marriage means responsibility, respect, trust, and love for one another and Allah.
I think the above two examples are proof. And they are both prescribed in the Quran |
Dear Aminah,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12291633&dopt=Citation writes:
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| Some religious laws bestow privileges to men (e.g., polygamy), which may make women more vulnerable to HIV/sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). |
Also, Islaam doesn't categorically forbid rape.
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/femalecaptives.htm writes:
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What does all of this boil down to? Muslim men were allowed to have intercourse with their female slaves after the slaves had had one menstrual period. The reason for waiting one menstrual cycle was to insure that the female slaves were not already pregnant prior to being captured.
In some cases, the female slave's husbands were also captives and it was still legal for the Muslim men to have sex with the female captives. Muhammad received a "revelation" allowing the Muslim men to have sex with the female slaves while there were still married to their captive husbands. A note on the Hadith says that according to Islam, when the married couple is captured, their marriage is automatically annulled!
Muslims did not need to marry the female slave or give her any type of dowry in order to have sex with her.
Muslims did not need to have the female slave's permission to have intercourse with her. She was his property, (as was noted by Tabari), and thus, as property, the Muslim owner had an Allah-given right to have intercourse with her if he desired. I have yet to find one Quranic verse or Hadith that says that the female's slave's permission was required. All Hadith and Quranic verses that pertain to Muslim men having intercourse with female slaves always put the option on the slave-owning man, whether he wants it or not. The slaves were not given a choice.
THE MUSLIM MEN WERE RAPING THEIR FEMALE SLAVES AND MUHAMMAD ALLOWED IT!
Think about it from the women's point of view. A battle is fought and her side lost. Many of the husbands, fathers, and sons are now dead. Some have been captured. The women and children are also taken as captives. Imagine the horror of the females. Family members dead, homes and possessions are now gone, they are in the total power of their captors.
The captives are distributed amongst the Muslim men as slaves, husband and wife captives are separated. As soon as a female has her menstrual cycle her owner appears. He has been separated from his wife for a while out on the field of battle, sexually hungry, and he proceeds to have sex with his female slave.
Do you think that this female slave willingly has intercourse with him? Is that her wish? She has just experienced one of the most horrible events in her life, - the destruction of her tribe and family, the taking of her possessions, and being made someone's slave, and now she willing consents to have sex with the very men who brought this disaster upon her!? Of course not! What women would look upon with loving eyes the men that brought destruction upon her family and tribe! |
Salaam,
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mahiwal
Joined: 12 Nov 2006
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Location: Miami, FL
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Dear Aminah,
Does Islam consider a one year old baby girl too young for sex or not? Imam Khomenii says that it is within Islamic Sharia for men to be able to "thigh" that little girl.
And mahiwal, a very knowledgable and capable muslim, will tell you that the Quran says that it alright for a girl to be married and have sex before she has menstruated. So do you agree with your allah that it is okay for adult men, old men, to have sex with a couple of year old girls? |
doubtless all your posts contain a line starting with " and Imam Khomeini says....." 
my God, when did i say islam permits sex with pre-pubercents???
Amina, doubtless knows Islam inside out and is thouroughly taking advantage of your shaky stance on Islam...
And believe me you would'nt like to have Juice here talking to you,
regards |
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mahiwal
Joined: 12 Nov 2006
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Location: Miami, FL
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This is the dumbest muslimah I have ever seen.
Mahiwal you lost the title. |
let us see,
Now, did you hear the one about the Jew who dropped his watch in the subway tracks but decided to look for it on the platform because it was easier? His name is Abe Foxman,
here is the full article, enjoyyyy,
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/julia/gorin120105.php3 |
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Sanitarium
Joined: 13 Feb 2006
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Location: where my time is better spent.
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@Aminah: Will you be answering any parts of my post on Page 1?
Thanks 
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diotima64
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Location: middleearth
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Assalamu Alaikum... |
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Mash'allah!
I am glad you respect yourself Diotima64, this means we agree on something as I too have respect for myself.
Beating does not mean thrashing your wife black and blue if she doesnt do as you say. I would like to explain this to you but I feel that it is too alien of a concept to you right now so I will leave it for another time.
Having 4 wives in Islam again, is an individual thing.
If I express feelings to a suitor that I would be uncomfortable with this then it is more than likely he will not marry another. Most muslim men do not want a headache of 4 wives anyway!
But, if a man is married, and there is a young widow who wants children, it is better for him to marry her (if his wife lets him and if money permits him to as he has to be fair and equal to all his wives and children) then this is permissable.
Many muslim women are totally comfortable with this. Research it and see, (not necessarily on the Internet as it is not always reliable but you could ask a muslim lady).
Being considered a walking vagina; I assume you refer to the article on this website. Women are given a great deal of respect in Islam. Especially to your mother, even if she is a kaafir. Women, and men are encouraged to seek knowledge. But you cannot deny that women are sexy! We are designed to be attractive to men.
But if we want men to respect our intellect and nature then we must have a balance. |
God, are you brainwashed!
so - beating doesn´t mean thrashing (ask our resident Sahara on that one) - who cares? So, you agree, that your husband has a right to physically "discipline" you? Who disciplines HIM, or do you agree that women are so childish, that they and only they need "discipline"? What sort of "respect" is that?
And thank you so very much, that "it is more than likely" a suitor would respect my feelings about not fucki.ing another three women (call them wives, if you have to) - what a generous man, to control his dick so nicely (probably), just because foolish woman that I am, I think marriage is more than a rent-a-vagina-contract! About your "young widow" baloney - why can´t she just find a husband of her own and must take mine? That´s what happens in the CIVILISED world, you know! 
Women are sexy? Sure! Thank God for that! Otherwise, what would become of the human race? And MEN are sexy, too! So? Learn to control your impulses, that´s what happens all over the world, without the need to cover up and hide away. Not to mention, how psychologically stupid such a tactic is - nothing tastes better, than the forbidden fruit, is something any parent knows!
The "walking vaginas" does not refer to the article - it is the obvious translation of "awrat" - which is, what YOU are, to your muslim keepers. NOT to a decent man. And I know all about the love and reverence muslim men have for their mothers (and exclusively their mothers) - after all, as a muslimah cannot exist on her own, but needs a man, and the so called husband cannot be relied upon, she needs to make her sons emotionally dependent and crippled - what other choice does she have? Seen enough of that in my ex bf.
You obviously HAVE no intellect to develop, otherwise you would not spout such CRAP. And thus, all you are or ever will be, is a breeding machine, to be "talaqed" as soon as the newer model comes out. |
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