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Abudosama
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Imran Mudareth
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| Then why people should submit to Allah? |
• - This is not the primary factor for Submission.
• - All of His blessings have given to animal being also which are given to human being.
• - The major cause of submission for human being is the blessing of vision given by Lord of the World.
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Abudosama
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mkmd555 Muadhin, Apostate in Islam.
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Since I left Islam my life has been much more rewarding and peaceful. Is there any 'truth' I am missing?
I dont think so.
Please tell us the Universal Truths.
And please do not run away. |
Read my all articals posted in this forum.
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lilith
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http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/noahs_ark_040913.html
what would a muslim park on the moon to preserve the creation?
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Abudosama
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• - What iterest you have got in Muslim, Lilth?
• - Muslim Gene will pirce through some American Astronaut Lady, so be careful>
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| There are several known threats to life on Earth, and perhaps some that no one has yet imagined. |
• - Yes there is danger from One Islamaic Atom Bomb, and not from Thousands of Christian Atom Bombs, Jews Atom Bombs, Hindu Atom Bombs.
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lilith
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Let me drop one:
[/quote]Luxenberg's analysis, which has drawn raves from many scholars, also transforms the meaning of the verse that is sometimes cited to require women to wear veils.
INSTEAD OF INSTRUCTING PIOUS WOMEN "TO DRAW THEIR VEILS OVER THEIR BOSOMS,"HE SAYS, IT ADVISES THEM TO ""BUCKLE THEIR BELTS AROUND THEIR HIPS."
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frankly I consider that gene a bit inferior.Given all the inbreeding. |
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Abudosama
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lilith
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| INSTEAD OF INSTRUCTING PIOUS WOMEN "TO DRAW THEIR VEILS OVER THEIR BOSOMS,"HE SAYS, IT ADVISES THEM TO ""BUCKLE THEIR BELTS AROUND THEIR HIPS." |
Ah thats why Western pious women remove veil from THEIR BOSOMS and BUCKLE THEIR BELTS AROUND THEIR HIPS" for attractive posterior. :-D
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yolk
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lilith
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I'm sorry,
this is the proper translation of the verse.
So muslims have been geting it wrong for ever.
I always wondered because in the old day only woman of lower stature(than man in judaïsm) or of ill repute would cover their head.
So i was really surprised when they brought this to life in iran.
They are not jewish, so given the other connotation of old, why would they ondergo this humiliation. They are not nuns but have sex. So what other interpretation was there?
Also nothing in the quraan.
So frankly i was very upset with it all.
Figuring the ayatollahs wanted to humiliate the woman by demanding this.
So I'm quite relieved with this proper translation from the oldest texts available.
http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/archives/entry/000379.html
http://www.ahjur.org/seminar/vqres.htm
looks a nice site.
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Abudosama
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lilith
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I always wondered because in the old day only woman of lower stature(than man in judaïsm) or of ill repute would cover their head.
So i was really surprised when they brought this to life in iran. |
• - Knowledge for me who was your Irani master?
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| NUMBERS 31:17-18 So, now kill every boy and kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse, but keep alive for yourselves all the girls and all the women who are virgins. |
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| LEVITICUS 25:46 And you may leave them as an inheritance to your sons, whom they must serve as long as they live, ... |
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| 1 CORNITHIANS 13:34-35The women should keep quiet in the meetings. They are not allowed to speak; at the Jewish law says, they must not be in charge. If they want to find out about some thing, they should ask their husbands at home. It is a disgraceful thing for a woman to speak in church. |
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| LUKE 14:26 Whoever comes to me can not be my disciple unless he loves me more than he loves his father and his mother, his wife and his children, his brothers and his sisters, and himself as well. |
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| LUKE 19:27 Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and kill them in my presence! |
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lilith
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History is the source.
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Abudosama
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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LI-LI-TH
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| History is the source. |
• - History is the Most Corrupted source, for human idiotic support.
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lilith
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Means their are myriads of sources one can search through, and compile what is corroborated most or supported by other sources f.i. in an unrelated subject one finds a small remark, a dat mentioned, a name and place.
That's the wway i like to compose my thruth.
When completely diffrent tales show up then I'll look inti it again and apply the same proces.
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if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
Where there is love there is life."
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Abudosama
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Li-Li-Th
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| Means their are myriads of sources one can search through, and compile what is corroborated most or supported by other sources f.i. in an unrelated subject one finds a small remark, a dat mentioned, a name and place. |
• - In search of traces from the remanants of human history astry people.
• - Their understanding can not be as true as people living then.
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That's the wway i like to compose my thruth.
When completely diffrent tales show up then I'll look inti it again and apply the same proces. |
• - Composition of Truth in this way is a composition of lie, for other.
• - How can some one describe the behaviour and living styles of stone age people.
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lilith
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YES NO MAYBE NO YES = the closest one might get to the truth
Off course the proper manner is mentioning sources so people can check for themselves.
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THHuxley
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| Abudosama wrote: |
| • - History is the Most Corrupted source, for human idiotic support. |
Well, Muslim history, maybe.
Thankfully, most non-Muslim historians rely on evidence, and not myth.
I would contend that religion is the most corrupted source for "human idiotic support" since it is entirely fabricated from scratch.
But that's just me.
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